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So, the big question is: What topics would you like me to cover in my future videos please?
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Thanks Michael!
I think you could teach me a lot about how to get my other half to accept more B&O!
Congratulations, Steve, and well-deserved.
If you're looking for topics, how about a compare/contrast of the BL 4000 v. BL17s?
Also (I think I've asked about this in the past, and may have missed your answer), how should one prepare for a speaker audition at a B&O store, and what should the audition experience ideally be like? For example: should we expect the dealer to arrange to rapidly switch between speakers A and B? Should we expect the dealer to compensate for volume differences between speakers A and B? Or is this something we should manage ourselves? Or write-off as a hopeless task etc.
I usually work on the basis that forgiveness is easier to obtain than permission ;-)
riverstyx:I usually work on the basis that forgiveness is easier to obtain than permission ;-)
Steve at Sounds Heavenly:So, the big question is: What topics would you like me to cover in my future videos please?
Thanks guys,
These are some great ideas! I do like the Beolab 4000/17 comparison, that is planned for as soon as I reach 4000 subscribers....
Can anyone find a link to Geoff Martin's thread that CB mentioned please, so that I can check this out?
Thanks Robin,
These are some great ideas! I am planning a few old vs. new speaker tests, plus a video on speaker listening.
I'm not the person to cover repairs or refoaming unfortunately, as this is outside my skill set, I will leave that so one of the repair experts to consider!
Steve at Sounds Heavenly:Can anyone find a link to Geoff Martin's thread that CB mentioned please, so that I can check this out?
Thanks CB!
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Like Robin mentioned, would be very interesting to heard how the old Beolab classics (or even some of the best of Beovox) compare to the newer lineup.
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BeoFrederic: Congratulations, Steve, and well-deserved. If you're looking for topics, how about a compare/contrast of the BL 4000 v. BL17s? Also (I think I've asked about this in the past, and may have missed your answer), how should one prepare for a speaker audition at a B&O store, and what should the audition experience ideally be like? For example: should we expect the dealer to arrange to rapidly switch between speakers A and B? Should we expect the dealer to compensate for volume differences between speakers A and B? Or is this something we should manage ourselves? Or write-off as a hopeless task etc.
Thanks BeoFrederic,
Just working on a speaker listening video now, ready to post before the weekend.
BeoFrederic: If you're looking for topics, how about a compare/contrast of the BL 4000 v. BL17s? Also (I think I've asked about this in the past, and may have missed your answer), how should one prepare for a speaker audition at a B&O store, and what should the audition experience ideally be like? For example: should we expect the dealer to arrange to rapidly switch between speakers A and B? Should we expect the dealer to compensate for volume differences between speakers A and B? Or is this something we should manage ourselves? Or write-off as a hopeless task etc.
Hi BeoFrederic.
The main thing to do, is to listen to music that you know well - don’t jump around to much/skip tracks In playlists.
I would not call it ‘a hopeless task’, but it can only give you an impression of the differences, a guideline to what to choose between.
If you are sincere about buying and the dealer is cincere about selling, I am sure he could arrange a test at your own place or even borrow you the speakers for a couple of days.
The sound of, the behaviour of different speakers definitely depends on the location/the room, where you will have them set up afterwards.
I would not bother much with ‘A to B comparisons’ - there are too many variables in a store setup.
Listen to the speakers (with wellknown material) for a while instead to adapt to the sound of the sets, you choose - don’t try to listen to too many different speakers in one session.
Also consider that it may make a difference how the speakers are connected - to a BV/Soundsystem, an audiosystem, oldschool or modern.
If you can not have the demo at home, drop by a couple of times and do the same test in the shop.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Hi MM,
I agree entirely! I have just uploaded this video to explain about speaker auditioning in more detail, what do you think?
https://youtu.be/QmgJ23oRKiw
Surround Sound with Beolab's without a BeoVision.
Personally I have a none B&O TV on a low BV7 stand with BL7-2
I would like to add 4x BL3 for surround.
Guess others could be interested in such a solution as well.
But what options are there ? What cables are needed ?
-Almando
-Surround receiver with pre-out
-Other more cost attractive solutions ?
Setup, how-to, cables etc....
Steve at Sounds Heavenly: Hi MM, I agree entirely! I have just uploaded this video to explain about speaker auditioning in more detail, what do you think? https://youtu.be/QmgJ23oRKiw Kind regards, Steve.
Just watched it - nice!
I indeed did expect that we would agree on this.
P.S. Thanks for the additional note on the importance of healty ears.
Ravsted:But what options are there ? What cables are needed ? -Almando -Surround receiver with pre-out
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Hi Steve:
Steve at Sounds Heavenly: [...] I have just uploaded this video to explain about speaker auditioning in more detail, what do you think? https://youtu.be/QmgJ23oRKiw
[...] I have just uploaded this video to explain about speaker auditioning in more detail, what do you think?
Thanks for that video! Good recommendations. I particularly like the idea of an 'anti-magic album' to torture the speakers a bit, and I appreciate that you gave two examples which I will now track down. I notice that you and MM both don't suggest doing A/B testing in-store. That's a bit against conventional thinking -- at least, what passed for conventional thinking back in my youth. I"ll have to think about that.
As regards the hearing test -- I've actually done that Saw an audiologist a couple of years ago. Surprise! I have 'age-related hearing loss' (as we all do past, say, 25 years old). My hearing is pretty flat until a threshold frequency, then it falls off the cliff. While it's good data to have, I don't think there's much that I -- or B&O -- can do about it.
Hi MM:
Thank you for taking the time to reply! Some interstitial thoughts/replies below.
Millemissen: The main thing to do, is to listen to music that you know well - don’t jump around too much/skip tracks In playlists. Listen to the speakers (with well-known material) for a while instead to adapt to the sound of the sets, you choose - don’t try to listen to too many different speakers in one session.
The main thing to do, is to listen to music that you know well - don’t jump around too much/skip tracks In playlists. Listen to the speakers (with well-known material) for a while instead to adapt to the sound of the sets, you choose - don’t try to listen to too many different speakers in one session.
Millemissen: If you are sincere about buying and the dealer is cincere about selling, I am sure he could arrange a test at your own place or even borrow you the speakers for a couple of days. The sound of, the behaviour of different speakers definitely depends on the location/the room, where you will have them set up afterwards. If you can not have the demo at home, drop by a couple of times and do the same test in the shop.
If you are sincere about buying and the dealer is cincere about selling, I am sure he could arrange a test at your own place or even borrow you the speakers for a couple of days. The sound of, the behaviour of different speakers definitely depends on the location/the room, where you will have them set up afterwards. If you can not have the demo at home, drop by a couple of times and do the same test in the shop.
Here's the rub. That advice is certainly well-intentioned, but not practicable, at least for me. My closest dealer is ~ 350 driving miles / 560 km. This is why the intense focus on getting the audition experience right. Whenever in the post-Covid future that I do get the chance to visit a dealer, I want it to be productive.
@BeoFredric
I see that that can be a big problem.
Maybe you could look for a fellow-beoworlder somewhat in your area, who could let you listen to his speakers....if there are any in your area. I guess there are a few sets of the 4000’s around.
That is also what the forum community is about, I’d say......if covid restrictions allows for it, where you live.
Or maybe you could have the dealer send you a set of speakers for auditioning - e.g. a set of the 17’s can easily be transported.