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1990
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1990 Posted: Tue, Sep 1 2020 11:22 AM

Hi all,

I'll be moving soon and renovations will start shortly. I'm still in doubt about using KNX or Lutron for control of my systems and eagerly await the Halo launch, but one thing I'd like your advice on: the bathroom speaker.

The bathroom is quite small (5 m2) and features both a shower and a bath. So it can become quite humid. I know Willie is using his M3 in the shower anyway, but what are your preferred solutions?

Anyone with a Celestial in the bathroom? If so, which amp do you use? BeoVox 1 is impossible to find second hand. BeoLab 3500 can be done (I have a NL/ML converter), but I'm worried about the humidity again.

Now is the time to plan all the cabling etc, so please give me some advice!

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beojeff replied on Tue, Sep 1 2020 1:55 PM

I've used BeoLab 3500s in the bathrooms for over 15 years without any problems. I like having the Essence Wall Remote for control since it's not connected to the electricity. I can even reach from the shower and control the volume, etc.

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beolion replied on Tue, Sep 1 2020 4:00 PM
I have a wall mounted Beo4 to control my BL3500 in the bathroom.
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petermc replied on Tue, Sep 1 2020 11:42 PM
At the moment we have some passive in ceiling speakers (can’t remember the brand) to be replaced by a BeoSound 35 when the bathroom is renovated.

The current in ceiling speakers are connected to a Passive amp which is attached to an Essence 2 controlled by a Essence remote. The amp works well and switches on and off with the Essence.
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I'm using a Beoplay M5 that sits on the bathroom counter.  I have a Beosound Essence Remote mounted on the wall lust outside the shower door so I can control the M5 while in the shower.  :)  

Sources: 2x Beosound Moment • 4x Beosound Essence Mk II
Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
Control:  16x* Essence Remote  • 1x Beoremote Halo

* Yes, really! 🤦‍♂️

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Stan replied on Wed, Sep 2 2020 4:10 PM

I have a M3 on my bathroom counter, but will mount it on the wall in an upcoming remodel. 

 

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Daniel replied on Wed, Sep 2 2020 8:50 PM

I’ve got a pair of BeoVox 1 (mounted in the hidden extra wooden boxes for better sound) in the ceiling. Looks really nice, but sometimes I look at the wall and think a BL 3500 would have been great there. As long as you don’t place it right over the shower there should be no problems with a BL 2000 or BL 3500.

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Brian replied on Thu, Sep 3 2020 2:04 PM

I use a Beosound 2. 

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The M3 is a good natural choice. In my case, I use my P6 as a bathroom speaker. I use it via Bluetooth connected to my phone. It auto connects and it’s splash proof. My bathroom has an inbuilt usb charger so that helps as well. For a permanent solution, I’d pick an M3.

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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Ah. I was using my Beosound 1 but then got worried that the humidity might effect it. Since I have it on the dock, charging in the bathroom was good and it looks good as well. I switched it for the P6.

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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stefan replied on Mon, Sep 7 2020 3:19 PM

Like many other people here I have a BL3500 in the bathroom - since many years without problems, the only things changed, two new woofers after maybe 10-12 years , and the covers changes from black to white.

The guest toilet got a M3, triggered by a KNX motion sensor, so everytime someone enter the room, M3 starts playing a Tunein Jazz radiostation.

Only problem here was, that guests/friends like the music so much, that they stay at the toilet, just to listen to the music...:)

So I programmed the setup to set the M3 to standby after 5 minutes..:))

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1990 replied on Mon, Sep 7 2020 3:32 PM

stefan:

The guest toilet got a M3, triggered by a KNX motion sensor, so everytime someone enter the room, M3 starts playing a Tunein Jazz radiostation.

Cool! I'll see if I can do something similar for my bathroom. I'll pass on the ceiling speakers and think I will go for a regular speaker :)

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Tassos replied on Wed, Sep 9 2020 7:02 AM

Got an M5 on an STB wall bracket next to my sink. Very happy with it no humidity or any other issues.

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ngnear replied on Wed, Sep 9 2020 9:10 AM
stefan:

Like many other people here I have a BL3500 in the bathroom - since many years without problems, the only things changed, two new woofers after maybe 10-12 years , and the covers changes from black to white.

The guest toilet got a M3, triggered by a KNX motion sensor, so everytime someone enter the room, M3 starts playing a Tunein Jazz radiostation.

Only problem here was, that guests/friends like the music so much, that they stay at the toilet, just to listen to the music...:)

So I programmed the setup to set the M3 to standby after 5 minutes..:))

Stefan

I would be interested to know how you implemented this. Are you using a Beolink Gateway of some sort or controlling the M3 through the (undocumented) REST-API?

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stefan replied on Thu, Sep 10 2020 12:22 PM

It´s quite simple - I just used things that are already in my setup.

Beolink Gateway (using KNX driver), of course an ML/NL converter, M3

and a KNX motion sensor, ceiling mounted. The KNX sensor can do a lot, detection of motion for lights, detection of motion for alarm (security),

detection of motion for "HLK" (heating, ventilation, air condition) and a temperature sensor for fire alarm - all these functions have different outputs (group addresses) to control different functions.

To be honest, I just wanted to test the alarm function, because I plan to integrate this into my sec system, and I neede a device to be triggered, M3 wasn`t uses for anything, so I tesed it with the M3 - people liked the music, and so I kept the installation.

How to: KNX sensor`s alarm group address triggers a macro in the BLGW, that starts M3, source tunein, channel 9 (DR P8 Jazz)

second macro (event KNX motion detection stops) command : M3 - standby

this works independantly from the Masterlink system in the house - it is also possible to trigger a ML source on the M3.

Hope this helps...

Stefan

 

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Beophile replied on Thu, Sep 10 2020 6:33 PM

In my master bathroom have a Beolab 11 and a pair of Beovox 2.2 in the ceiling powered by two channels of a BeoAmp 16.  I’m using an Essence mk2 as the source.  The audio from the Essence mk2 passes to the Beolab 11 (which has a crossover built in) and then goes to the BeoAmp 16 to power the Beovox 2.2.  This is probably something of an unconventional paring, but it works very well and sounds incredible together.  For completeness, I should mention there is also a 32” Beoply V1 by the tub, but that’s another story.  Frankly, of all the amazing B&O equipment I’m fortunate to have in my home, the system in my master bathroom is easily the most used and probably my favorite.

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ngnear replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 3:12 PM
stefan:

It´s quite simple - I just used things that are already in my setup.

Beolink Gateway (using KNX driver), of course an ML/NL converter, M3

Hope this helps...

Stefan

Thanks for the information.

.Unfortunately the BLGW is no longer made and very rarely appears in the used market.

Another option would be it’s successor the Beoliving Intelligence.

But as the rest of my home automation is based on Z-Wave controlled by Indigo it would need some work to get communication between them working. And to be honest the investment in time and money is probably too high for the expected results.

I am working on a solution to trigger my M5 via the REST-API, but due to other commitments it is on hold at the moment.

Tim
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Peter Pan replied on Fri, Sep 11 2020 4:16 PM

Hi 1990.

ASW50 x 2 ICEpower modul to 2x BeoVox 2-1.and Cromecast audio.


Regards Peter Pan

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L Spad replied on Sat, Sep 12 2020 11:43 AM

Hi there - if you are using indigo a MLGW or BLGW would be fine. The MLGW is available at a good used price these days (I actually have one for sale) and there is an indigo plugin available. Phil developed the first version and I’ve made some developments. You’re welcome to a copy of the plugin if it would help.

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benjnz replied on Thu, May 13 2021 8:06 AM

WOW thanks for the idea. I have a BeoLiving Intelligence, so I'm going to setup the guest bathroom to play music when the light state changes to on (as I already have a hue motion sensor in the room) and get the music to play for say 5 mins Whistle

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