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Michael: vlohjr1: I have been told to think more v140 type ?
vlohjr1: I have been told to think more v140 type
I have been told to think more v140 type
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Maybe that is another one!
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
My Salesman told me today to expect a smaller "bed room" type of TV in the same time frame. But I hope the B&O tax they put on top a LG panel (like 48") plus a Stage will not that high :-)
Michael: mseverg68: The 55 more expensive than the mk1 Only the 55? Why more expansive?
mseverg68: The 55 more expensive than the mk1
The 55 more expensive than the mk1
Only the 55? Why more expansive?
Madness. I bought a GX 55” + Stage + BeoRemote and GX 65” + Stage + BeoRemote for less than an Eclipse 55”, even with a dealer discount 😞
kawo: My Salesman told me today to expect a smaller "bed room" type of TV in the same time frame. But I hope the B&O tax they put on top a LG panel (like 48") plus a Stage will not that high :-)
Your salesman might be onto something - interesting ;-)
I’d expect such a combo to be more expensive than an LG-48/Stage combo - but rhen again, maybe it offers more?
I guess it will be based on the 48" LG, according their recent strategy I would expect same concept as the Harmony that the panel is nothing B&O will touch or change (except the App inside WebOS). So a kind of a frame to mount the LG panel with a stage typ of functionality build in.
That would be my approach if I would be B&O. Dealer told my they have quite a high demand of the Stage with smaller screens.
moxxey:Madness. I bought a GX 55” + Stage + BeoRemote and GX 65” + Stage + BeoRemote for less than an Eclipse 55”, even with a dealer discount 😞
moxxey: Michael: mseverg68: The 55 more expensive than the mk1 Only the 55? Why more expansive? Madness. I bought a GX 55” + Stage + BeoRemote and GX 65” + Stage + BeoRemote for less than an Eclipse 55”, even with a dealer discount 😞
Which is great if you don't have any external speakers. But in my case I have 4 BL 18 and a BL 19. I guess I have to go the Eclipse/Harmony way in order to replace by BV11 but I'm happy to be proven wrong!
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Old: Beosound 9000 mk3, Beolab 3's, Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
Marcello: Which is great if you don't have any external speakers. But in my case I have 4 BL 18 and a BL 19. I guess I have to go the Eclipse/Harmony way in order to replace by BV11 but I'm happy to be proven wrong!
I'd happily buy an Eclipse if a) the v2 was ever released and/or b) the Eclipse v1 was reduced to a point where a 2017 panel TV was justifiable.
Neither of those options exist right now. Hence the decision above. Don't regret it either. Would prefer to have external speakers, but the quality of the TV, setup and price point more than justify the purchase. Oh and the fact that the GX is almost flush to the wall, too!
Mikipidia:There is a lot of confusion in this thread New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0 Mikipedia on YouTube (finally ) https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
Beolab 50, Beolab 8000 x 2, Beolab 4000 x 2, BeoSound Core, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound Century, BeoLit 15, BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay P2, BeoPlay H9 3rd Gen, BeoPlay H6, EarSet 3i, BeoVision Eclipse Gen 2 55", BeoPlay V1-40, BeoCom 6000 and so much else :)
Mikipidia:Forget “any screen” it will only work with LG panels, any of the tv ideas, for a long time to come New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0 Mikipedia on YouTube (finally ) https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
moxxey: Marcello: Which is great if you don't have any external speakers. But in my case I have 4 BL 18 and a BL 19. I guess I have to go the Eclipse/Harmony way in order to replace by BV11 but I'm happy to be proven wrong! I'd happily buy an Eclipse if a) the v2 was ever released and/or b) the Eclipse v1 was reduced to a point where a 2017 panel TV was justifiable. Neither of those options exist right now. Hence the decision above. Don't regret it either. Would prefer to have external speakers, but the quality of the TV, setup and price point more than justify the purchase. Oh and the fact that the GX is almost flush to the wall, too!
I saw the GX in store the other day, it's really a marvel! I am renovating for the next 6/8 months so by the end hopefully I will have more choices about which equipment to get.
Marcello: I saw the GX in store the other day, it's really a marvel! I am renovating for the next 6/8 months so by the end hopefully I will have more choices about which equipment to get.
My biggest regret was....not going for the 77" GX
Why? The GX 65" looks much smaller than the previous BV12-65 (as that has a huge border) and realised, once the GX 65" was on the wall, I could have easily gone for the 77" - it's almost the footprint of BV12-65.
Will be interesting to see what they do with an Eclipse v2. I don't understand how they'll make it more expensive using an off-the-shelf CX though.
Mikipidia:I think that’s wrong info honestly, i think there were several topics meshed together New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0 Mikipedia on YouTube (finally ) https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
Mikipidia:But it’s not a beovision, it’s the stage.
Fair point. But what if THAT is exactly what people would like to buy? (like I did) Given the price/perfomance positioning. Just wondering.
Eclipse mk2 55" arrives this week. Eclipse mk2 65" will be january 2021.
Beobuddy:Eclipse mk2 55" arrives this week. Eclipse mk2 65" will be january 2021.
Some already might have them. Spoke 1 dealer earier this week and told me that he was expecting this week the arrival. Talked to the other, who was on the road and expected the arrival today. That's what's they told me. So, exciting, for the ones who wants the 55' version.
Beobuddy:Some already might have them. Spoke 1 dealer earier this week and told me that he was expecting this week the arrival. Talked to the other, who was on the road and expected the arrival today. That's what's they told me. So, exciting, for the ones who wants the 55' version.
All sounds very interesting, but what does MK2 include? HDMI 2.1, CX panel etc?..
Since the only real benefit of the CX glass is for improved gaming - its actually less good than Eclipse V1 for movies - the primary development areas would be the pass-through of better sound support, eg. Atmos. But that would be a lot of dev work and I'm unsure they have the budget. But lets see. The shift to HDMI 2.1 will make it possible.
mawheele:Since the only real benefit of the CX glass is for improved gaming - its actually less good than Eclipse V1 for movies - the primary development areas would be the pass-through of better sound support, eg. Atmos. But that would be a lot of dev work and I'm unsure they have the budget. But lets see. The shift to HDMI 2.1 will make it possible.
It will be the gx-panel....
The GX and CX is the same panel.
Michael: How would CX be worse?
How would CX be worse?
That's left me somewhat perplexed, too. I've never seen a review of the CX/GX where it's argued the panel quality is 'worse' than the old 2017 panel.
Also, if the Eclipse v2 has already hit dealers, wouldn't we have a spec leak by now? Little confused by this.
Nidi: It will be the gx-panel....
The GX is designed for wall-mounting. It's a so-called unique design which sits flush on the wall and the mount hides within the back of the panel.
According to a danish forum, the main difference are a new bracket between sound center and the GX panel. And a back cover for the GX, in order to hide the cables.
Hi all
I have got a eclipse on order and told got to wait for version 2 can someone tell me if this worth the wait
i had beolab 3 and told would not fit to new stage system
BoboDK: According to a danish forum, the main difference are a new bracket between sound center and the GX panel. And a back cover for the GX, in order to hide the cables.
I wonder if I can take my GX 55" and use it with the new soundbar/setup? I bet not, but would be interesting if you could!
moxxey:I wonder if I can take my GX 55" and use it with the new soundbar/setup? I bet not, but would be interesting if you could!
Sandyb: moxxey: I wonder if I can take my GX 55" and use it with the new soundbar/setup? I bet not, but would be interesting if you could! I’m not convinced that an Eclipse with a GX panel can wall mount in the same way that a GX on its own can. In other words, if the Eclipse 2 does / can use a GX, my bet is that it will still stick out from the wall by the same amount / in the same way that the Eclipse v1 does. Which would kind of ruin the point of using the GX, for those like myself that like a flush fit to the wall.
moxxey: I wonder if I can take my GX 55" and use it with the new soundbar/setup? I bet not, but would be interesting if you could!
I’m not convinced that an Eclipse with a GX panel can wall mount in the same way that a GX on its own can.
In other words, if the Eclipse 2 does / can use a GX, my bet is that it will still stick out from the wall by the same amount / in the same way that the Eclipse v1 does.
Which would kind of ruin the point of using the GX, for those like myself that like a flush fit to the wall.
The GX would be used to hide cables. The power cable is not possible to hide on a CX.
Which would not look very good on a Beovision.
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Sandyb: Which would kind of ruin the point of using the GX, for those like myself that like a flush fit to the wall.
I'd take my GX 55" off the wall, leaving the GX 65" wall-mounted, then would put the 55" on the "Eclipse v2 stand" (if it's possible). My view is, B&O might not even ship the panel and leave a dealer to drop in this component locally, thus reducing shipping costs, which would enable me to action my plan.
Only snag is, it's an expensive plan! And I have other priorities for the next few months (buying a new house for one).
Emil Jensen:The GX would be used to hide cables. The power cable is not possible to hide on a CX. Which would not look very good on a Beovision. Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6, Beoplay Earset
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Michael: mawheele: Since the only real benefit of the CX glass is for improved gaming - its actually less good than Eclipse V1 for movies - the primary development areas would be the pass-through of better sound support, eg. Atmos. But that would be a lot of dev work and I'm unsure they have the budget. But lets see. The shift to HDMI 2.1 will make it possible. How would CX be worse?
mawheele: Since the only real benefit of the CX glass is for improved gaming - its actually less good than Eclipse V1 for movies - the primary development areas would be the pass-through of better sound support, eg. Atmos. But that would be a lot of dev work and I'm unsure they have the budget. But lets see. The shift to HDMI 2.1 will make it possible.
Brightness across large part of spectrum.
mawheele:B Brightness across large part of spectrum.
Well, I guess a new panel would mean updated HDMI-inputs nevertheless.