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Beolab 4000 line in advice

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Jonathan
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Jonathan Posted: Fri, Jan 18 2013 12:22 AM

Hi Beoworlders,

I want to use some Beolab 4000 speakers in a restaurant. I need to install 3 pairs, and hope that I can just link them to an ipod dock directly.

Whenever I try to use the Beolab 4000s directly I get a humming sound.

Any advice???

Thanks in advance...

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RussR replied on Fri, Jan 18 2013 4:54 AM

Ground loop perhaps.  Is it possible to get all of the speakers and the iPod dock on the same electrical circuit?  Second possibility: Light dimmers on the same circuit as any of the other pieces involved.

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I had an Ipod connected to my BL 8000, the plug for the Ipod was very hard to connect, not properly inserted it gave "hum"

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Jonathan replied on Fri, Jan 18 2013 9:12 AM

Note I'm yet to install the wiring and speakers...

To test before I install and wire up, I used an ipod to powerlink cable in to one speaker. I then used a powerlink cable to link each speaker. I set the switches on both to Line and the speakers hummed.

So before I install wiring and mount the speakers I need to ascertain how to wire them so they don't hum....

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beoaus replied on Fri, Jan 18 2013 9:20 AM

Which BL4000 version are they?

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Jonathan replied on Fri, Jan 18 2013 9:24 AM

the ones I've tested are Mark 2, but I'll be installing a mix :/

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When I tried my Ipod direct to BL 8000s, i had a cable that connected to the Ipod, then from the ipod with one cable to each speaker to the line input, as far as I know you cannot use powerlink cables with the speakers set to line. With the powerlink cables there is a trigger current triggering the speakers, the Ipod does not have that function.

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If you want to drive 3 sets of speakers, I suggest a simple speaker distributor with one left right line in, and 3 left right lines out, from there to line in on the speakers. and speakers set to line. I have only tried with one set of speakers, but what the Ipod gave out the speakers played, and with good volume too. Howe it will be with 3 sets I really dont know. Maybe, Ipod to an amplifier, distributor, and then speakers, would work better.

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Vienna replied on Sat, Jan 19 2013 12:12 AM

Jonathan:
Whenever I try to use the Beolab 4000s directly I get a humming sound

PowerLink cables (like "Line" cables using RCA/Phono plugs) are unbalanced cables.

On longer distances these cables, especially the "thin" versions will pick hum.

Double shielded cables (like the recent 5mm B&O PowerLink-cables) are more resistant to hum.   

Double grounding causing ground loops can also produce hum ...

BeoLab MK1 and MK2 use different power-supplys, a mixture of both types on the same output can also
lead to hum ...

A solution could be an old BeoLink converter as "Audio-Master" and 3 BeoLink Active for three zones
wired via ML Cable. MasterLink is a symetrical = balanced cable (same technology beeing used in
radio stations, theatres, recording studios and PA) and hence quite resistant to hum.

Only the remaing lenght from BL-Active to the BLb 4000 will then be an unbalanced cable. 

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