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moxxey: 355f: So what one seems to be saying is is only difference between version 1 and 2 apart from a few audio formats is that the panel is upgraded, so in the same way Mk 1 users are stuckwith no upgrade path- so this applies to the mark 2 and yet the price is higher?? I was told by my dealer the reason the v2 is (slightly) higher in price is that it has even more 'custom parts' for the rear plate etc. Which is slightly worrying for being able to swap out the panel in the future, which was the original idea of Eclipse v1. Was the Eclipse ever really designed to be upgradable? I reckon this was just dealer talk from assumptions made? I can't see how it can. As panel design changes, the top part has to reflect the fake panel in the sound center. Everyone keeps talking - rather casually for my liking - about being able to "swap out" the panel, but has this ever really been a thing? It was much-touted for Eclipse v1, but seems to have been forgotten (by v1 owners) that this was even a sales point.
355f: So what one seems to be saying is is only difference between version 1 and 2 apart from a few audio formats is that the panel is upgraded, so in the same way Mk 1 users are stuckwith no upgrade path- so this applies to the mark 2 and yet the price is higher??
So what one seems to be saying is is only difference between version 1 and 2 apart from a few audio formats is that the panel is upgraded, so in the same way Mk 1 users are stuckwith no upgrade path- so this applies to the mark 2 and yet the price is higher??
I was told by my dealer the reason the v2 is (slightly) higher in price is that it has even more 'custom parts' for the rear plate etc. Which is slightly worrying for being able to swap out the panel in the future, which was the original idea of Eclipse v1.
Was the Eclipse ever really designed to be upgradable? I reckon this was just dealer talk from assumptions made? I can't see how it can. As panel design changes, the top part has to reflect the fake panel in the sound center.
Everyone keeps talking - rather casually for my liking - about being able to "swap out" the panel, but has this ever really been a thing? It was much-touted for Eclipse v1, but seems to have been forgotten (by v1 owners) that this was even a sales point.
The upgrade path has always been a dark art as far as the dealers are concerned.We do know that OLED has more problems than later generation plasma or LCD, I know of two owners who have had eclipse panels replaced under warranty and many you have first generation LG that are now unrepairable after less than four years.
We are told that B&O keep parts for five years-so why would one buy a V1 now with a four year old panel?
I am just a bit concerned with the shape of the cutout matching the contour of the GX and the 'custom' parts' and app, It seems to me this is juts an eclipse version 2 with a panel update this makes it a bad choice in my view
I wonder what the cost alone from B&O to replace a vers 1 panel if its faulty, far more than a new GX i expect
I recal when buying BS3 - it had the benefit of being able to attach different panels. In reality it would control the panasonic panel of the day and that was it.
It seems more profiteering that engineering in this solution, I mean how much effort does it take to machine a new cutout and visa mount
mbee: A lot of people are saying that TV tech is moving quicker now than I, the good old years of CRT. While this has been correct in the early 2000’s, I cannot see why a C7 panel is clearly outdated compared to a CX/GX. I’m not sure that everybody complaining about getting the latest panel would see any picture quality difference in real life.
A lot of people are saying that TV tech is moving quicker now than I, the good old years of CRT. While this has been correct in the early 2000’s, I cannot see why a C7 panel is clearly outdated compared to a CX/GX. I’m not sure that everybody complaining about getting the latest panel would see any picture quality difference in real life.
Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on.
But, no-one is now saying that the Eclipse v1 is outdated or, dare I say it, eclipsed by v2. Let's put this in some context please. All I'm saying is, this 'able to swap out the panel in future' was made in to a relatively big thing when the Eclipse v1 was launched - it was discussed frequently. And it can't. Question is, can the v2? We're again emphasising how the panel can be swapped out in future, but can it? We're in danger of treading the same path again!
My only issue with the Eclipse v1 was dealers were flogging it for over £7000 up until a couple or so months ago, even though it was a 4-year-old panel - if you found a C7 on-sale in 2020, you'd probably pick if up for £200, or a fraction of the original cost.
mbee: A lot of people are saying that TV tech is moving quicker now than I, the good old years of CRT. While this has been correct in the early 2000’s, I cannot see why a C7 panel is clearly outdated compared to a CX/GX. I’m not sure that everybody complaining about getting the latest panel would see any picture quality difference in real life. For me TV tech is slowing and everything that is new today concerns lower price of manufacturing for the TV brand and marketing hype, not huge picture quality improvements.
For me TV tech is slowing and everything that is new today concerns lower price of manufacturing for the TV brand and marketing hype, not huge picture quality improvements.
I agree but the longevity of the panels is much lower and reliability more suspect than more established technologies So B&O should either make replacement panels cheap so that a customer who has spent 7K is not stuffed, do B&O care? well they should the have lost to many customers already
moxxey:Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on. But, no-one is now saying that the Eclipse v1 is outdated or, dare I say it, eclipsed by v2. Let's put this in some context please. All I'm saying is, this 'able to swap out the panel in future' was made in to a relatively big thing when the Eclipse v1 was launched - it was discussed frequently. And it can't. Question is, can the v2? We're again emphasising how the panel can be swapped out in future, but can it? We're in danger of treading the same path again! My only issue with the Eclipse v1 was dealers were flogging it for over £7000 up until a couple or so months ago, even though it was a 4-year-old panel - if you found a C7 on-sale in 2020, you'd probably pick if up for £200, or a fraction of the original cost.
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mbee:A lot of people are saying that TV tech is moving quicker now than I, the good old years of CRT. While this has been correct in the early 2000’s, I cannot see why a C7 panel is clearly outdated compared to a CX/GX. I’m not sure that everybody complaining about getting the latest panel would see any picture quality difference in real life. For me TV tech is slowing and everything that is new today concerns lower price of manufacturing for the TV brand and marketing hype, not huge picture quality improvements. diisign.com
Sandyb:Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on.
For a TV that was not shipping until May of 2017, I'm struggling to see what is 2016 about it. With the same argument, you could say the GX is 2019 technology. And you are right about the OLED technology, the real updates were in the A9Gen3.
Also, Genuine Top Tip: You want AppleTV, get an Apple TV. Better privacy, security and the silicon in an AppleTV 4K blows away the A9.
Sandyb:Come 4 years time, micro LED will be a bit more of a practical proposition.
Nailed it. Micro LED is the next refresh cycle if you already have an Eclipse or OLED panel today. Not sure it'll be 4-years however. Your 2021 iPad and MacBook Pros will undoubtedly have it and I can't imagine TV's are too far behind.
mawheele: Sandyb:Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on. For a TV that was not shipping until May of 2017, I'm struggling to see what is 2016 about it.
For a TV that was not shipping until May of 2017, I'm struggling to see what is 2016 about it.
The panel. It was designed in 2016. That's what it's "about". I never said anything about a launch.
You're like the most aggressive Eclipse v1 owner I've experienced. Almost like we're doing this to wind you up. Incredible.
It's a 4-year-old TV. If someone wants to spend good money on that now, fair enough. But please stop posting in late 2020 that it somehow matches the quality of the GX, which is 2019 technology, yes.
Sandyb: Well indeed- was the ability to swap panels really a feature of the v1? Just because it was discussed here doesn’t make it so
Well indeed- was the ability to swap panels really a feature of the v1?
Just because it was discussed here doesn’t make it so
That's exactly the point I made above :)
ie. dealers and posts here explained how the panel could be updated in future. I'm seeing the same discussion with the v2. I don't see how as the fake panel on the sound center has to match the panel.
Was my guess - remember these new technologies do take much longer than ppl expect to become both widely available (ie a number of brands offering them) and reasonably (i.e. not prohibitively priced).
Also the OLED specialists like LG will cling to it, and continue to offer it for a while, so its not as if their focus will suddenly shift to microLED.
Anyway, and all told, if you ask me when B&O ill first offer a BV with microLED, my guess would be not before 2023.
mawheele: Sandyb:Come 4 years time, micro LED will be a bit more of a practical proposition. Nailed it. Micro LED is the next refresh cycle if you already have an Eclipse or OLED panel today. Not sure it'll be 4-years however. Your 2021 iPad and MacBook Pros will undoubtedly have it and I can't imagine TV's are too far behind.
They will have mini Led, which is the same as LCD
Micro LED is only available in 140” plus
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Actually, the V1 Eclipse can be upgraded. Some members have used the V1 Sound Center with a C9 panel successfully by installing the B&O app on the TV and connecting the HDMI and LAN as if it was a V1. This is just the mechanical fit that is problematic. But if the goal is to salvage a set, perhaps the way is to install the new boards and the raw OLED panel in the V1 panel chassis.
I own a V1 Eclipse and I very satisfied with it. But I am also interested to keep it for several years as I did with my other Beovisions and that's why I am following that thread carefully.
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Sandyb: moxxey: Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on. But, no-one is now saying that the Eclipse v1 is outdated or, dare I say it, eclipsed by v2. Let's put this in some context please. All I'm saying is, this 'able to swap out the panel in future' was made in to a relatively big thing when the Eclipse v1 was launched - it was discussed frequently. And it can't. Question is, can the v2? We're again emphasising how the panel can be swapped out in future, but can it? We're in danger of treading the same path again! My only issue with the Eclipse v1 was dealers were flogging it for over £7000 up until a couple or so months ago, even though it was a 4-year-old panel - if you found a C7 on-sale in 2020, you'd probably pick if up for £200, or a fraction of the original cost. Well indeed- was the ability to swap panels really a feature of the v1? Just because it was discussed here doesn’t make it so Nothing in the release coverage of the Eclipse back in 2016 suggested such modularity. And no one on here has reported their v1 with the C7 panel being upgraded to a C9 for example!?! So I don’t know why this question persists. I’m sure there will have been a few dealers who said “sure, that should/could be possible “...but I’ll say again- if the upgrade ability of the v1 was an inherent part of the Eclipse original design, this would have been emphasised by B&O at launch.
moxxey: Well, it is a 2016 panel, effectively and relatively 'old' in terms of OLED technology. Plus you don't get some app support, such as Apple TV and so on. But, no-one is now saying that the Eclipse v1 is outdated or, dare I say it, eclipsed by v2. Let's put this in some context please. All I'm saying is, this 'able to swap out the panel in future' was made in to a relatively big thing when the Eclipse v1 was launched - it was discussed frequently. And it can't. Question is, can the v2? We're again emphasising how the panel can be swapped out in future, but can it? We're in danger of treading the same path again! My only issue with the Eclipse v1 was dealers were flogging it for over £7000 up until a couple or so months ago, even though it was a 4-year-old panel - if you found a C7 on-sale in 2020, you'd probably pick if up for £200, or a fraction of the original cost.
Nothing in the release coverage of the Eclipse back in 2016 suggested such modularity.
And no one on here has reported their v1 with the C7 panel being upgraded to a C9 for example!?!
So I don’t know why this question persists.
I’m sure there will have been a few dealers who said “sure, that should/could be possible “...but I’ll say again- if the upgrade ability of the v1 was an inherent part of the Eclipse original design, this would have been emphasised by B&O at launch.
No dealer ever talked to me about this, neither did I hear anything alike from the HQ/Struer.
What was told (and this might have been misunderstood.....from some dealers and costumers), was that this platform with the SoundCenter and the stand options would make later versions possible, with coming displays from LG.
Exactly this is what we see now.
MM
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Millemissen:No dealer ever talked to me about this, neither did I hear anything alike from the HQ/Struer. What was told (and this might have been misunderstood.....from some dealers and costumers), was that this platform with the SoundCenter and the stand options would make later versions possible, with coming displays from LG. Exactly this is what we see now. MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
moxxey: It's a 4-year-old TV. If someone wants to spend good money on that now, fair enough. But please stop posting in late 2020 that it somehow matches the quality of the GX, which is 2019 technology, yes.
No. Just fed up reading made up rubbish designed to make yourself feel good. Its moved onto exaggerating the age of a product released in September 2017. Remember, we've had to listen to how a Beovision 65" Plasma with 1080P is magnificent for the past several years whilst everything we have is second best. Now, we're listening to how a GX with a Stage - nothing more than a less capable Sonos Arc with aluminium trim - is better than what we have.
Perhaps you could be nice about a product you don't own and make everyone here feel good, rather than just yourself. Thanks.
To me the swap display is not about upgrade every year or every other year - but it is about being able to continue using the soundcenter if the LG panel dies after 3 or 4 or even 5 years. Otherwise you can throw the whole thing out... I sure hope that the V2 Eclipse has a standard VISA bracket. In " the old days" we knew that B&O would have spare parts for years to come - we don't have that guarantee now. I am about to replace my (still going strong) Beovision 7.40 mk III - will most likely end up with V2 Eclipse 55, but would have loved the Eclipse Soundcenter as the Stage (or the other way around?) I really do not like the stupid glass(?) piece underneath the speaker of the Eclipse Soundcenter. And why on earth did they have to use the GX instead of the CX? It makes no sense - I actually prefer the back of the V1 to the V2. When that is said I really think that the Ecplise (V1 and V2) is a great package...
The cable management would have been horrible if they had chosen the CX
mawheele: No. Just fed up reading made up rubbish designed to make yourself feel good.
No. Just fed up reading made up rubbish designed to make yourself feel good.
Incredible. I am nice about the product - if you read my posts I was very close to buying an Eclipse v1 in March, but decided it wasn't value for money. If I could get a deal on a v2 using my GX I'd potentially pull the trigger. I've spoken with a dealer today and the price makes this more than justifiable. Actually, surprisingly so. It's likely to happen. I'll then keep the 65" wall-mounted.
But I'm also balanced and realistic about doing this and how much I spend. Just presenting the arguments on a forum, not going around like yourself trying to tell people a 4-year-old panel is realistically a good buy in 2020, which is what you keep implying (as I'm sure you have doubts about the purchase, which is why you feel the need to repeatedly do this).
If you really believe a 2016-designed panel offers value where someone should be paying at leas £7K in 2020 (ie. earlier) this year, fine. If you think this is "made up rubbish" (nothing like your claims of the older panel being 'universally brighter' then?!), fair enough, keep posting, but I don't see the value in what you claim any more than mine. Yours is no more valid than what I'm saying.
The Eclipse is a fantastic TV. Frankly though v2 should have been out ages ago and that's arguably my biggest issue personally. The v1 shouldn't have still been on the market in March 2020 and certainly not at £8000+ (even if there were a few deals to be had), so they are the reasons for my posts. From all my years of buying B&O kit and experience of panels, I just do not agree a 4-year-old panel is a good future investment. Indeed, you're effectively buying a plastic LG with a limited lifespan, too and the Eclipse v1 can't be updated with a replacement panel nor can you drop in a GX - these are all reasons for me posting and questioning Eclipse v1. Don't take them so personally or act so aggressively.
And it's not my job to make yourself feel good. You don't need me for that and vice-versa. If you can afford an Eclipse v1 I'm sure you don't need people like me to hold your hand with your own decision. Thanks.
...the v1 shouldn't have still been on the market in March 2020 and certainly not at £8000+ (even if there were a few deals to be had), so they are the reasons for my posts. From all my years of buying B&O kit and experience of panels, I just do not agree a 4-year-old panel is a good future investment.
I do agree with the following points (above) Moxxey makes as these are the 2 main reasons I am not buying the Eclipse. I am also not a fan of the glass underneath the sound centre as it looks odd and out of place to me. The Eclipse version 2 doesn’t disappoint, but that’s only because I wasn’t expecting a new radical design; we knew it was only ever going to be a refresh.
The problem for me, really, is that my newer home that I’ve now been in for 3 years just doesn’t have the space of my former pad, so anything bigger than a BV10/11/14 is going to look too imposing. Even my BV9 before the BV11 probably would have been too big with the accompanying BL9s, which is why I sold it all on before moving.
I do think you need increasing larger spaces now to accommodate the newer BeoVisions particularly, which seem to be getting bigger and bigger each year if anything.
The new 48” Contour is appealing from a size perspective but as mentioned in a different thread, the design just doesn’t quite cut it for me so I am still sitting on the fence and going to go with the LG W9 with a Stage for the next few years. I am waiting until after CES in the new year to purchase just in case an updated panel is released with better specs but to be fair the W9 will probably be fine. We all want different things so no shoe fits all etc and it is such a difficult marketplace for B&O these days as technology seems to outdate quicker than I’ve ever known it to before. The negative sides of the ‘technological race‘ I suppose.
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has the new Eclipse MKii the support for Apple Home Kit?
If this is possible, did anyone know which control functionality is possible to work with Home Kit? Is there more „Remote Control“ than power on/off ?
I have the Beo4 50" and I was looking at (firstly) changing the Screen, the LG GX 55" will fit the width of the Beosound 7.2 speaker within a couple of mm, my setup is mounted on the ST Remote MER4 bracket which brings the whole TV out from the wall and into the room, the Eclipse bracket (I would say) is like a door hinge in comparison.
My dilemma is what to do ! Everything I have fits (I hate cables & wires) I have tubes that run under the maple flooring and behind the stud wall to the loft I even have under floor power points for the 8000 & 6000 speakers, the BS3, DVD2 & Humax freesat box sit in door fronted furniture that I designed & tailor made (ultra modern), So what do I do ? buy an Eclipse and adapt it to my MER 4 bracket and bin the Beo3, Beo4 50" & Beosound 7.2, or do I leave everything in place and just change the screen, I also operate everything including lights and Overture from the Beo 5 remote and would (hopefully) need to still use it, I also can't seem to justify the price tag on the Eclipse 2
I've already told the B&O dealer that I don't have a Bentley parked in my driveway
graham60:I have the Beo4 50" and I was looking at (firstly) changing the Screen, the LG GX 55" will fit the width of the Beosound 7.2 speaker within a couple of mm, my setup is mounted on the ST Remote MER4 bracket which brings the whole TV out from the wall and into the room, the Eclipse bracket (I would say) is like a door hinge in comparison. My dilemma is what to do ! Everything I have fits (I hate cables & wires) I have tubes that run under the maple flooring and behind the stud wall to the loft I even have under floor power points for the 8000 & 6000 speakers, the BS3, DVD2 & Humax freesat box sit in door fronted furniture that I designed & tailor made (ultra modern), So what do I do ? buy an Eclipse and adapt it to my MER 4 bracket and bin the Beo3, Beo4 50" & Beosound 7.2, or do I leave everything in place and just change the screen, I also operate everything including lights and Overture from the Beo 5 remote and would (hopefully) need to still use it, I also can't seem to justify the price tag on the Eclipse 2 I've already told the B&O dealer that I don't have a Bentley parked in my driveway
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I think it's the screen that I'm looking at, I need to have a demo of these Oled 55" screens, I know the LG GX is available from B&O as a screen only and maybe this could be the way to go if they can program it to my BEO5 remote and my existing BS3 setup, or am I just wasting money as the BV 4 has nothing wrong with the picture quality ! I mean will my wife see a difference when watching TV programs "Coronation Street" for example ? I remember being in one shop going back and they were playing an animated DVD film, I asked the guy to put a TV program on and he said "we don't have a TV Licence", I asked for the tv program because that's what 90% of our viewing time consists of
I think I will wait until things get back to normal !! and have a word with the B&O dealer about the LG GX, if they can program it to my setup I can adapt it to my MER 4 remote wall bracket and is everything works from my BEO5 ? then it's win win
From my perspective I think you should wait too.
I don't agree with Michael that plasma is old and worn out; old perhaps but still a very good picture for the SD content you are watching and HD at 720p (or 1080p) will look just as impressive on the 50" screen.
4 years ago I changed from a BeoVision 9 to a BeoVision 11 and definitely don't see any better picture quality. Different yes, LCD and Plasma are noticeably different but better? No. We probably had the same panel if you have the BeoVision 4, which would be the Panasonic D9 if later model or D8 if earlier example and both offered a superb picture.
Plasma TVs at that time were very established and were tested for 30,000 hours or more so unless you have experienced any problems to date I would imagine you're still enjoying a very nice picture. I only changed my TV because the next property I bought could not accommodate the large footprint of the BeoVision 9. Cheers, Simon.
Thanks for your input Simon, I think you are right in that the Bv4 50" is a very good picture, I like the fact that there is nothing false about it, the colours are true and blacks are black, it's just sometimes I get things in my head and think wow there's all these brilliant OLED TV's out there and when I saw the Eclipse I thought maybe, but the more I think the more I'm unsure, so on that note I will definitely wait until things get more back to normal
Hi Graham, sounds like we share similar views in that I too get things in my head and think there is some sudden urgency to change to keep up with the latest and greatest tech, or because I am going to get a better Tv experience, but I doubt that it is really the case when it comes down to it.
Just before Christmas I was absolutely intent on buying a new OLED model LG W9, otherwise known as the wallpaper TV due to its thin profile. I really loved the look of it especially with LGs own sound bar - the version that came with the previous W8 model not their newer one. But, over Christmas I started to enjoy my BeoVision 11 and BeoSound 2 so much more just as they are and the more and more I watched and listened the more I realised I had a lovely setup that was just fine as it is; gives me lots of pleasure; is B&O through and through and doesn’t need changing or updating. I am more than happy and content with what I have and that’s wonderful.
I do still love the OLED screens and there is no doubt these would outperform both our existing TVs, especially because of the absolute perfect black levels, which would make movies particularly really stand out. This is a big leap in technology and personally I am a big fan of OLED but with my recent change of heart I am now in no rush to make the move. By the time I am ready I think any competing TV technology at the time will be so perfected by then that it really won’t matter what TV is chosen.
Of all the TVs I have owned I think the BeoVision 9 is still my favourite in terms of design. I think of all the TVs produced by B&O the one with the best picture quality is the BeoVision 7-55 Mark II 3D version due to its 512 (as I recall) backlight dimming zones.
On the subject of my favourite TVs, while I didn’t like the picture quality that much of the newer Avant, I did find the motorised table stand hugely appealing so its such a shame they don’t offer that stand for other models as I would buy in it a heartbeat. What a great experience every time you turn the TV on and off that would be.
I think its a good decision to stay with the BeoVision 4, enjoy it! All the best :)
Thanks for the advice,
I reach for my Beo5 remote, the 2 1/2" screen lights up and at a glance I see the items listed in "Lounge" I press Freesat on the screen and simultaneously press Memory then the operation begins, the BV 4 with Beolab 7.2 speaker glide from their flat to wall position and move out into the room to take up position across the corner angle of the room, at the same time the screen curtain opens and presto I'm looking at a Bang & Olufsen creation, I hear a faint "click" and the BeoLab 8000 & 6000's along with the BeoLab 2 and BeoLab 7.2 burst into life, all at the command of the BeoSystem 3. The DVD2 and the BeoSound Overture sit patiently waiting their turn
Do I really need to give it all up for the LG TV ?? I'm going to stick with what was a good solution and what is true B&O design
My earlier TV was the Avant 32", again a Bang and Olufsen masterpiece, And before that I can't remember the actual model name.
Thanks again for your advice
Best regards
I am in total agreement Graham so no, I don’t think either of us need to change to an LG tv at this point; not if we want to keep the last and the best of B&O.
The Beonic Man:I am in total agreement Graham so no, I don’t think either of us need to change to an LG tv at this point; not if we want to keep the last and the best of B&O. BV11-46, BV8-32, V1-32, BS2, P6, A1, E8, BR1, Essence