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Bang & Olufsen App 3.8

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MrAndersen Posted: Mon, Nov 9 2020 10:40 AM

Hi all

 

New beta is out with a configurable widget for controlling your setup. Touch to join, Beosound Shape sound modes and other options. We no longer open the app, but send the command directly from the widget, based on your feedback this was what you were looking for. You will find the configuration here settings->widget, please let us know what other features you would like to see here. Furthermore, we have released a radio service for the Beosound Balance, you can now assign radio stations to the favorite buttons without using Google. 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 11:04 AM
Great, I would have used icons instead of text to represent the widgets, here is a suggestion:

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 11:04 AM
BS Moment TouchtoJoin is missing, why?

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 11:08 AM
New feature I would like to see:

Standby

Standby All

Mute Sound

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:13 PM

mbolo01:
BS Moment TouchtoJoin is missing, why?
And the Controls of the Moment doesn't make sense.

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:13 PM

Hard te differentiate between product because of the lengths of the names. So Mbole proposition could be a solution.

The control button doesn't lead you to to setting of that product but opens the app

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:32 PM
The Music tab (Deezer/DLNA) is no longer working, app is freezing.

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:40 PM

mbolo01:
The Music tab (Deezer/DLNA) is no longer working, app is freezing.
works for me though

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:44 PM
Carolpa:

works for me though

Do you have one or more DLNA server?

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:47 PM

Idea: make the JOIN widget a toggle button. If the product is already joined, release it and put it in stdby, otherwise let it join other devices.

 

nb: the order of devices in the app is correct again. thx for adjusting

 

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Carolpa replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:48 PM

mbolo01:
Carolpa:
works for me though
Do you have one or more DLNA server?
2x Minimserver + Deezer

 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 12:58 PM
Carolpa:

2x Minimserver + Deezer

Uninstalled/reinstalled and it works now.

Previous crash report has been sent to B&O they should be in a position to figure what sequence of actions caused it.

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Carolpa:

mbolo01:
The Music tab (Deezer/DLNA) is no longer working, app is freezing.
works for me though

Works for me too.

MM

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Nov 9 2020 1:01 PM
Carolpa:

Idea: make the JOIN widget a toggle button. If the product is already joined, release it and put it in stdby, otherwise let it join other devices.

Not good for people wanting to be able to join one or other running product playing different sources.

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I like the new widget setup.

However, I had to remove and re-install the app before it worked properly.

Like mbolo01 I had strange errors with unresponsive functions before the re-install.

I suggest that this requirement is added to the what to test text.

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Just curious why the Core does not have a product image when it is a current product. The A6 for instance isn't sold anymore and yet has an image.

B&O in my life 😊: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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The App overall works well for all my products I added to the widget. I like that you can exclude some products from the widget. Overall definitely a progress.

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  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beosound Balance (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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1990 replied on Tue, Nov 10 2020 6:11 AM

Took a bit to set the widget up, but when done it works perfectly. Very useful to be able to join from the iPhone!

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laseralex replied on Tue, Nov 10 2020 7:38 AM

The new Widget is a great step in the right direction.  I appreciate that B&O is trying to improve their app and is soliciting feedback from their fanbase and heaviest users.

Here is my feedback:

I'd like to start with agreeing with what mbolo01 said about icons using instead of text to indicate join multiroom versus settings.  That would be a huge improvement.  His proposed illustration shows B&O product names like M3, M5, BS1, but those should definitely be the product name entered in the app, as I would otherwise not know which M5 or Essence I was controlling.


For some reason the Touch to Join function is not working for me - when I touch the "join" button it flashes red but no join action happens.  I've tried with both the Moment in my office and the Essence in my kitchen as sources, trying to add the living room or master bedroom essences.  The top button of the Essence Remote does work for touch-to-join when the widget fails; the Halo in the kitchen also joins as expected with the join icon.


I would like to also to echo mbolo01's comment about the lack of "Touch to Join" functionality for the Moment.  I know the Moment is discontinued and support is minimal ( Angry ), but it shouldn't be difficult to get this function working in the widget since I can do it in the app.

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Speakers: 3x Beolab 8000 • 2x Beolab 6000 • 2x Beolab 3 • 3x Beolab 2
Integrated:  1x Beosound 2 • 1x Beosound Level • 4x BeoPlay M5 • 1x BeoPlay A6
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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Nov 10 2020 8:42 AM

laseralex:
His proposed illustration shows B&O product names like M3, M5, BS1, but those should definitely be the product name entered in the app, as I would otherwise not know which M5 or Essence I was controlling.

Thanks for supporting my comments!

The product names shown in the image are effectively the ones I entered in the App, so it is ok for you.

FYI: I had to use short product names with no other possible meaning such kitchen or living room to ease voice controlled home automation 

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Seanie_230 replied on Tue, Nov 10 2020 10:24 PM
Took me a few to figure it out but works well.

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Will they ever incorporate volume control functionality in one place?

At present I have to leave the Core, open BL90 to change volume and the exit and go into Core. Very tiresome.

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ngnear replied on Wed, Nov 11 2020 4:53 AM
seethroughyou:

Will they ever incorporate volume control functionality in one place?

At present I have to leave the Core, open BL90 to change volume and the exit and go into Core. Very tiresome.

Switching from one device to another takes just 2 taps.

Tim

Tap on the device name

List of devices appears. Tap on the one required.

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Dec 1 2020 5:27 PM
I find the Widgets icons a little bit big on an iPad

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Dec 3 2020 8:26 PM
@MrAndersen: is there still a beta program?

Production version is now:

And the latest beta:

Quite significant version difference isn’t it?

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Yes 2 taps when going from current track being played to the BL90 volume page. Stupid and tedious. So counter to old B&O way of doing things. Then you have reverse and tap twice to go current track. Four taps. Sort it out. B&O - Stop being lazy and make it happen. So obvious a deficit.

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Hi mbolo01

This was a fix of some crashes we observed in the market. We made what we called a hotfix, with some very small fixes. For some reason the Apple review time is much longer for test flight than with a normal release. Hence, in these situations where I put them into review at the same time, the official version will be out first. You should have it by now. 

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Dec 7 2020 5:14 PM
MrAndersen:

For some reason the Apple review time is much longer for test flight than with a normal release

Got you thanks.

I’ll take this parameter into consideration when it happens next.

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 11:50 AM
I would have given more space between the WiFi and the Multiroom icon, and I would have set the same tint for both

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Dyssegaard replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 12:00 PM
mbolo01:

I would have given more space between the WiFi and the Multiroom icon, and I would have set the same tint for both

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I agree with you about the spacing and tint.

Further more I wonder why there are WiFi symbols on my multi room products as they are all cabled to my network?

The Bluetooth icons only shows when the product is connected - so that is ok.

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 2:20 PM
Dyssegaard:

Further more I wonder why there are WiFi symbols on my multi room products as they are all cabled to my network?

I guess they choose this icon for « network connected » without considering the media and arbitrarily choosing the WiFi one, another bad choice like the one for app settings where they replaced the cogwheel, that is used everywhere else for the same purpose, by a profile icon which does not make sense here imho

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Hiort replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 2:31 PM

MrAndersen:

Furthermore, we have released a radio service for the Beosound Balance, you can now assign radio stations to the favorite buttons without using Google. 

Not an app topic perhaps, but will you do the same for Beosound 1 GVA? Would be great.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hiort replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 2:34 PM

mbolo01:
Dyssegaard:

 

Further more I wonder why there are WiFi symbols on my multi room products as they are all cabled to my network?

 

 

I guess they choose this icon for « network connected » without considering the media and arbitrarily choosing the WiFi one, another bad choice like the one for app settings where they replaced the cogwheel, that is used everywhere else for the same purpose, by a profile icon which does not make sense here imho

Agree, regarding the settings icon.

The "network icon" looks very strange. On my iPhone 12Pro the "network icon" slightly overlap the "link" icon. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Dec 17 2020 9:52 PM
..... and the very old bugs are still present. I wonder why they are not addressed before introducing new « features »

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I have tested the beta released yesterday - 3.9.0.33288 - WiFi and Bluetooth symbols are no longer displayed on the home page for connected devices Wink.

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beojeff replied on Wed, Jan 6 2021 1:08 PM

I really don't care AT ALL about the widgets. I would just like for the bugs with NL/ML Converters to be sorted out.

1. All controls of NL/ML Converter sources are not always present. For example: P+ and P-. Why not just always use a control menu similar to that of Beovisions, including the numeric buttons so that we can go directly to CD tracks or disks in the case of the BeoSound 9000?

2. After selecting a source from an NL/ML Converter connected as a primary or secondary linked device, you can no longer select other sources from the local list via the app. The only sources shown in the app are then the sources of the connected NL/ML Converter.

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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Jan 6 2021 1:58 PM

beojeff:

I really don't care AT ALL about the widgets. I would just like for the bugs with NL/ML Converters to be sorted out.

... as well as all the other bugs reported since ages

https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/41967/322607.aspx#322607

 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Jan 7 2021 4:44 PM
I’m curious to know if some of you are using the buttons below and for what ?

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Play/Pause and Next of the choosen device....when you want to stay in the products view.

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Jan 18 2021 2:36 PM
Millemissen:

Play/Pause and Next of the choosen device....when you want to stay in the products view.

Indeed. Do you use these commands from this scree frequently? I also wonder why there is no back button ?

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