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Audio out from scart

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LLybaek Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021 11:04 PM

Hi beoworld,

I recently bought a second hand Beovision 8. It's my first Beovision, so I don't know much about it.

I want to connect my old hi-fi system, so I can hear sound from the TV on my passive speakers.

I found out the bv8 has no analog audio out, so I've been using the headphone jack. It's not the best solution because of the dobble volume controle.

I read in a few threads here, that it's possible to get audio out from scart, with a scart to RCA adapter. I have the adaptor, but I can't get any sound from it.

So my question is, how do I setup the TV so I get sound from scart?

(I don't use an antenna, I only watch TV through my Chromecast.)

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Hi and welcome to Beoworld.

Easiest and most convinient way would be to buy a MCL2P (the amp) or the Beolink Passive box, which has the same functionallity.

It is automatically turned on/off and volume regulated throught the tv.

(But maybe you really want to keep your ‘old hi-fi system’?)

Connect to the BV8 via Powerlink cable and connect to the speakers via speakers cables.

They are relatively cheap and fairly easy to find.

A benefit is, that you can set up the Bv8 to usecthe built-in speaker as the center speaker and have your passive speakers as front R/L speakers.

By the way, which version of the BV8 are we talking?

MM

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 12:15 AM

Hi MM, and thanks.

Yes I want to keep my hi-fi system for playing records and CD's. I did a quick search for the amp you suggested, and it look like it's going to cost me more than I payed for the TV.

If it's possible, the scart to RCA is a better option for me.

I'm not sure which version it is, there's no sticker on the back. It's a 8-40 with 2 hdmi sockets.

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Daniel replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 3:21 AM

Hi!

Have you checked so the cable is working as scart to RCA (and not only the other way around)?

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 8:17 AM

Hi Daniel,

I have used the cable recently. The scart to RCA is brand new, but I'm not 100 % sure. I'm not sure any of the the 3 scart sockets are working either. I don't have any other scart equipment, so I have no way of telling.

But if I turn up my hi-fi system, I hear a sound from the speakers every time I turn on or off the TV. This makes me think that there is a connection, but the TV isn't set up right.

I use AV 1. Named it TV and use hdmi B (where my Chromecast is) as source. I've plugged the scart to RCA in the AV 1 scart socket, with the switch on out.

 

 

 

 

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You can get the audio via the scart connector, see diagram..

Regards Keith....

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LLybaek:

Hi MM, and thanks.

Yes I want to keep my hi-fi system for playing records and CD's. I did a quick search for the amp you suggested, and it look like it's going to cost me more than I payed for the TV.

If it's possible, the scart to RCA is a better option for me.

I'm not sure which version it is, there's no sticker on the back. It's a 8-40 with 2 hdmi sockets.

That makes sense.

Your BV8 is a BV8-40 MK1 - a nice tv by the way (I had one earlier).

You must have gotten that d*mn cheap, if it was cheaper rhan a MCL2P/Beolink Passive :-)

 

P.S. I’d like to hear about your testings - if the sound and the handling is ok/better than throught the hp-out, when you use the scart option?

 

MM

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Guy replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 12:45 PM

Yes I would  stick with the SCART output for your setup - a fixed volume line output avoid complications.  It shouldn't matter what you do in the setup connection menu as the SCART audio outputs should be live all the time, as shown at pins 1 and 3 of Keith's diagram.

Most of the SCART audio adaptors that I have used have a built in switch that allows you to decide if it's an output or input - this avoids problems with 'directional' cables.

Something like this should work fine: https://www.amazon.co.uk/CDL-Micro-Plated-Adapter-Convertor-Gold/dp/B001QWU55G/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=scart+to+audio&qid=1610714379&sr=8-6

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 2:40 PM

Okay MM, thanks.

Yes I got it really cheap because the digital TV module is broken, but since I watch all my TV through the internet, it doesn't matter to me :)

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 2:40 PM
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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 2:48 PM

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the diagram. I can see that it's pin 1 and 3 I need, and my scary adapter has those pins so it should work.

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Guy replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 3:00 PM

LLybaek:
my scary adapter has those pins so it should work.

Just because a SCART adaptor has the pins it doesn't mean they are connected on the solder side!

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 3:02 PM

Hi Guy, and thanks,

I'm glad to hear the scary should be live at all time, but that just makes it more troubling that it's not working. I have anscart to RCA adapter with a in/out switch exactly like the one in your link. I just tested the continuity with a multimeter, and it works exactly as it should with continuity from red to pin 1 and white to pin 3 with the switch in out position but not in, and vice versa.

So I guess it must be that none of my 3 scart sockets are working? 

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 3:04 PM

I just tested the continuity, it should work.

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Just thinking out loud here, could there be an issue with the TV not processing and converting the sound to analogue for the scart sockets? 

You cannot send sound from a digital source on a TV via Masterlink so I wonder if that may also apply to the scart.

You might want to consider something like this between the Chromecast and TV to extract the sound befor the TV needs to process it. I'm having to use one on my Beosytem3 and FireTV

Stoobie

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Guy replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 6:24 PM

^ Good thinking Stoobie - very likely to be the problem!

@ LLbyaek:  Maybe try switching the BV8 to the (untuned) analogue TV input and see if the resultant hissing sound is output from the SCART audio. If so, Stoobie has indentified the problem.

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 6:37 PM

Hi Stoobie,

I was thinking something similar. Maybe this only works if you're watching TV through the antenna, and not through the HDMI like I do. But since I don't have an antenna I can't test that.

Thanks for the suggestion, but if I can't get the scart to RCA to work I'll just go back to using the headphone jack. I'll have to live with the dobble volume control.

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 6:41 PM

I tried switching to analog TV, but the TV is not transmitting the statistics sound, like older TVs. It must be automatically muting the noise.

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As guy says just test it without the antenna because it should make a hissing sound as it's not tuned.

Update - I see you have tried Big Smile

Stoobie.

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 6:54 PM

But I think you're right. That would mean, that you won't be able to record sound (and maybe picture) from for example a DVD player (hdmi) to a VCR (scart) right? 

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This link tends to indicate it should be outputting sound on scart AV1 and AV2

https://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/26175.aspx

because, as you say, you wouldn't get any sound on an attached Video or HDD recorder.

And I have just tried in my Beocenter 1, I see the static on screen but no sound even when full volume.

Stoobie

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LLybaek replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 7:44 PM

I'm going to try and borrow an old VCR, to see if the scart audio in is working.

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Guy replied on Sat, Jan 16 2021 8:55 AM

LLybaek:

I'm going to try and borrow an old VCR, to see if the scart audio in is working.

You could connect an analogue sound input to the camera connections (red and white phono sockets) and see if that is relayed to the SCART audio output.

If you look at the service manual, when testing sound outputs it tells you to turn off the hdmi selection for the AV input that is being used.  This suggests that it is an hdmi source selection that forces the SCART audio output to be switched off.

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Guy:
If you look at the service manual, when testing sound outputs it tells you to turn off the hdmi selection for the AV input that is being used.  This suggests that it is an hdmi source selection that forces the SCART audio output to be switched off.

That is correct and maybe the key to a solution..

Regards Keith....

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LLybaek replied on Sun, Jan 17 2021 1:35 PM

That's it! Thanks Guy

I connected my phone to the camera connection, and music played through my hi-fi system.

Does that mean I won't be able to get sound from my Chromecast (hdmi)? 

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You could use the audio extractor I mentioned earlier, that will work. It seems the HDMI is turning off the scart as suggested.

Stoobie 

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LLybaek replied on Sun, Jan 17 2021 5:10 PM

That's right Stoobie. I think I'll just keep using the headphone jack, but thanks.

Thank you everybody for helping out 👍

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