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Beomaster 6500 'light' timer

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rrm Posted: Thu, Mar 11 2021 7:28 AM

I have bought a BM 6500 which turns on my LC2 at the same time every day and turns it off 1 hour later. It might have a 'light' timer set by a previous owner using a two-way remote control, and I would like to delete the timer. However, I do not own a BL 5000 or 7000. Is there any other way to clear the memory of the BM 6500 without soldering off the backup battery? I think Steve mentioned in a review of the Beotime remote that this device could also operate the the 'light' timer, but am in doubt whether this also applies to the BM 6500? 

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 8:38 AM

The Beotime does has a LIGHT command function, but is unable to program the BM6500 because it does not offer two-way programming.

I can't see any reset procedure in the BM6500 service manual, but others may know of one.  

Are you not able to borrow a BL5000 or MCP? Perhaps someone can help if nearby?

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Weebyx replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 8:56 AM

rrm:

I have bought a BM 6500 which turns on my L2C at the same time every day and turns it off 1 hour later. It might have a 'light' timer set by a previous owner using a two-way remote control, and I would like to delete the timer. However, I do not own a BL 5000 or 7000. Is there any other way to clear the memory of the BM 6500 without soldering off the backup battery? I think Steve mentioned in a review of the Beotime remote that this device could also operate the the 'light' timer, but am in doubt whether this also applies to the BM 6500? 

As a quick fix, you can press mute and std.by at the same time on the Beomaster, it will show "Timer Off" on the front.

You can clear all timers and stuff in service mode, don't unsolder the battery, this will cause your FM frequency to not be correct (not a problem when not using 2-way remote, but anyway).

 

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Weebyx replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 8:57 AM

Weebyx:

rrm:

I have bought a BM 6500 which turns on my L2C at the same time every day and turns it off 1 hour later. It might have a 'light' timer set by a previous owner using a two-way remote control, and I would like to delete the timer. However, I do not own a BL 5000 or 7000. Is there any other way to clear the memory of the BM 6500 without soldering off the backup battery? I think Steve mentioned in a review of the Beotime remote that this device could also operate the the 'light' timer, but am in doubt whether this also applies to the BM 6500? 

As a quick fix, you can press mute and std.by at the same time on the Beomaster, it will show "Timer Off" on the front.

You can clear all timers and stuff in service mode, don't unsolder the battery, this will cause your FM frequency to not be correct (not a problem when not using 2-way remote, but anyway).

 

/Weebyx

Sorry, "Std.by"  and "Step program" at the same time.

/Weebyx

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BeoMedia replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 9:18 AM

Hello, I will need to replace the onboard cell battery of my BeoMaster 7000, will this ruin the frequency precision of the radio? Or what exactly will happen please?

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 9:40 AM

Weebyx:
As a quick fix, you can press mute and std.by at the same time on the Beomaster, it will show "Timer Off" on the front.

But doesn't that simply 'mute' the AV system for any timer events, rather than cancelling specific programming and/or transmission of the programmed LIGHT commands?

And how do you enter Service Mode on a BM6500 - is it as mentioned in the BM7000 service manual?

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Beobuddy replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 9:53 AM

Guy:

I can't see any reset procedure in the BM6500 service manual, but others may know of one.  

Bring the Beomaster in servicemode with shorting the little solderpad on the upc board. Then press "7".
All presets, soundsettings, etc, will be deleted.

 

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Weebyx replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:01 AM

BeoMedia:

Hello, I will need to replace the onboard cell battery of my BeoMaster 7000, will this ruin the frequency precision of the radio? Or what exactly will happen please?

I have not had this issue on 7000, but mu 6500 had to have it set after battery change.

Nothing will "happen", other than if you use a Beolink 7000 remote, the frequency readout will be wrong, so if you tune to a FM station at 98.5mhz, it might show 98.3 or 98.7 instead.

This can be set in service mode.

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Weebyx replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 11:03 AM

Guy:

Weebyx:
As a quick fix, you can press mute and std.by at the same time on the Beomaster, it will show "Timer Off" on the front.

But doesn't that simply 'mute' the AV system for any timer events, rather than cancelling specific programming and/or transmission of the programmed LIGHT commands?

And how do you enter Service Mode on a BM6500 - is it as mentioned in the BM7000 service manual?

I am not 100% sure, it has been a while since I used a LC2 with my 7000, but at least it is worth a try ?

/Weebyx

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rrm replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 1:01 PM

Thank you very much for your guidance. I will try the 'timer off' quick fix, but also think it only cuts off the speakers and not the IR signal. For a permanent reset of the timers, it may be easier to find an affordable MCP than BL 5000. Can you confirm that MCP also works with the 'light' timer? I thought only BL 5000 and 7000 had this feature. 

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Guy replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 1:47 PM

rrm:
Can you confirm that MCP also works with the 'light' timer?

Sorry, I had assumed that it would, but having looked through the relevant manuals I can see no reference to the ability of an MCP to carry out light programming.  There's is a chance that you could view and cancel previous programming, but to be honest I am not sure, so it would be better if someone with a BM6500 and MCP could check what it possible.

If you are anywhere near Milton Keynes you are welcome to borrow my BL5000 - sadly I think they are too fragile to put in the post!

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rrm replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 4:58 PM

Thank you for your kindness. I am in the Copenhagen area, so borrowing your BL 5000 will not possible. Yes, it would be very nice if a MCP owner could check its ability to cancel previous programming.

I also appreciated the guidance to Service Mode and clearance of the memory mentioned above. I just think the CPU is a fragile part of the BM to work with if not having proper equipment such as protection from static electricity. There may be a good reason for placing the CPU board in a metal casing.

I will get back tomorrow when having tested the 'timer off' quick fix. 

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Weebyx replied on Thu, Mar 11 2021 7:21 PM

rrm:

Thank you for your kindness. I am in the Copenhagen area, so borrowing your BL 5000 will not possible. Yes, it would be very nice if a MCP owner could check its ability to cancel previous programming.

I also appreciated the guidance to Service Mode and clearance of the memory mentioned above. I just think the CPU is a fragile part of the BM to work with if not having proper equipment such as protection from static electricity. There may be a good reason for placing the CPU board in a metal casing.

I will get back tomorrow when having tested the 'timer off' quick fix. 

Just found my user manual, and it is correct, the Timer Off will only mute speakers, I dont think it will solve your problem.

Service mode or a remote is the only way.

/Weebyx

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rrm replied on Fri, Mar 12 2021 6:03 AM

The 'timer off' could not be used as a quick fix as it did not disable the IR transmission.

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