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BeoVision 4 power on without BeoSystem

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krisons
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krisons Posted: Sat, Feb 2 2013 10:50 PM

Dear friends,

I have just bought a BeoVision 4/42 plasma panel alone to connect with my PC.

The seller assured me that it powers on automatically when detects an incoming VGA signal, and now I know that is not true. I have read tons of manuals and docs over the internet and have not found a solution.

I understand, that BeoSystem send a signal to Serial Port to control it power state. Can it be simulated or called by something else?

Please help me understand how can I power on plasma without BeoSystem. 

 

Thank you!

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I have just spent 4 days trying to do the same thing with a BV4 / 50 ......................................... Dont worry there is hope (not an expensive BEO4 remote)

 

Unplug the serial, picture sensor and the IR leaving just power and a working sorce

Then using a Panasonic or universal remote programmed for a panasonic plasma hold the remote to the bottom left corner of the screen, pointing in towards the screen frame seal (the original IR sensor is hidden behind the frame) and you should hear a faint "boing" noise.

And yes it is just a rebadged Panasonic, but that still makes them great !

 

Good luck

 

 

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kallasr replied on Tue, Feb 5 2013 9:30 AM

Lots of infos on this site if you are a silver/gold member.

The service manual shows this:
(BV4-50-D8_service-eng.pdf)

 

 

Ralf

Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)

In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s). 

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krisons replied on Tue, Feb 5 2013 2:02 PM

Thanks a lot! 

Now I need to find a remote.NDo you know the model of the Panasonic plasma which is inside? 

Can you please provide me a model name of your remote?

 

Thanks

oleg

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kallasr replied on Tue, Feb 5 2013 2:36 PM

What is the resolution of your 4-42?

It sould be something like TH-42P...

- PW for wide screen (852 x 480)
- PH for HD (1.366 x 768)
- PF for Full HD (1.920 x 1.080)

Just check the panasonic website for details. Look for professionla plasma display.

I used to run a TH-42PWD6 (as far as I remember) with a Beosystem 2.

Ralf

 

PS: a list I found that I used while searching for a display

 

Full HD TH-42PF20 2010 G13 1.920 x 1.080 Px        2.073.600  
Full HD TH-42PF11 2008 G11 1.920 x 1.080 Px       2.073.600  
High Definition TH-42PH20 2010 G13 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PH12 2009 G12 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PH11 2008 G11 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PH10 2007 G10 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PH9EK 2007 G9 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PD12 2009 G12 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PHD8 2006 G8 1366 x 768 Pixel     1.049.088  
Standard Def. TH-42PS10 2007 G10 852 x 480 Pixel           408.960  
Standard Def. TH-42PG9 2007 G9 852 x 480 Pixel           408.960  
Full HD TH-50PF20 2010 G13
Full HD TH-50PF11 2008 G11
Full HD TH-50PF10 2007 G10
High Definition TH-50PH20 2010 G13
High Definition TH-50PH12 2009 G12
High Definition TH-50PH11 2008 G11
High Definition TH-50PH10 2007 G10 1366 x 768 Pixel       1.049.088  
High Definition TH-50PHD8 2005 G8 1366 x 768 Pixel       1.049.088  
High Definition TH-50PD12 2009 G12
High Definition TH-50PHW6 2004 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
High Definition TH-42PHW6 2004 1024 x 768 Pixel           786.432  
Standard Def. TH-42PWD6EX 2004 852 x 480 Pixel           408.960  

Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)

In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s). 

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krisons replied on Tue, Feb 5 2013 10:21 PM

Thank your your help!

I have ordered a remote, so I will inform with a result when it arrives!

Oleg

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So you can put it on ? please tell me details

 

thank you i have de same problem with a beovision 4 full hd  type 9080 fro 4 -2008

 

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So you can put it on ? please tell me details

 

thank you i have de same problem with a beovision 4 full hd  type 9080 fro 4 -2008

krisons
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krisons replied on Tue, May 7 2013 7:33 AM

Yes, it works.

Just use native Panasonic or universal remote set to Panasonic codes. You need to point it in the little hope in aluminium frame from below.

Good luck!

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ok i have two remotes from panasonic tvs but i can not put in on with this 50 " beovision 4 next step for me is remove the aluminium frame 

also i have another  37 " beovision 4 but in this the panasonic remote is working 

any new idea is welcome 

 

thank you

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marexy replied on Mon, Apr 12 2021 7:30 PM

that is an old topic but... i just opened BV 4-50  and find out that is just nice packed Panasonic TH-50PH9 display plasma.

Now the problem..i connect PC i can only see part of the desktop as it is in ZOOM mode :( and can only connected via VGA port.

I did try to connect via DVI to HDMI to my computer ..but no luck..dark screen 

And i can enter menu on TV but no option to set the picture correct.

Any hint to fix that ?

Thanks

I

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kallasr replied on Tue, Apr 13 2021 5:54 AM
TH-50PH9 display plasma is HD ready only, so be sure to feed the right solution with your PC. And the right Hz (50, I guess). Do you have a Panasonic remote to control the screen?

Ralf

Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)

In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s). 

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marexy replied on Sat, Apr 17 2021 12:49 PM

problem fixed :)

BV4 is playing from my laptop just nice :) via VGA input 

It is not full HD but 720p i think 1366 x 768 Pixel

Picture is briliant as plasma should be.

Ii's Panasonic TH-50PH9 monitor. Beovision model 4-50 Type 9021 serial : 202....

Next i hope can bring it to life via HDMI input.

 

 

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cclr replied on Thu, May 13 2021 9:34 AM

Hi everyone,

I have the same problem, I just purchased a Beovison 4 65 - type 8991 with a beosystem 2 but without cables.
I do not even know if the beovision work since I cannot turn it on, I try with some panasonic modele using my logitech harmony but dit not manage yet.

Do you have any advise such as panasonic plasma modele, location of the ir sensor on the 4 65, things I could check,...

Have a good day,

Loic

 

Update: problem fixed also on my side thanks to this post.

I remove the back of the tv to understand, I was happy to see a red ligth inside and I finally understand the location of the IR receiver, it is in the back at the vertical of the supports that allow to fix the beovision to the wall stand.
Using the logitech IR blaster and the "driver" for Panasonic TH-65PHD, the TV switch ON!!!

Next step, hdmi to vga for beovision with audio extractor SPDIF for bose lifestyle.

What a screen!!

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Hi Cclr.

 

I am about to purchase a Beovision 4 65 with a beosystem  2 same as you. Type 9091, item 1819663 serial 21417656

 

I would like to be able to use It as a Televisión controled by Chrome Cast or FireTv.

 

I see you have turned It on using a "Panasonic" remote control that is helpfull to be sure que TV screen works fine.

 

I assume maybe I will need to buy a beosystem 3 have you found any other solution?

Risketos
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Hi Cclr.

 

I am about to purchase a Beovision 4 65 with a beosystem  2 same as you. Type 9091, item 1819663 serial 21417656

 

I would like to be able to use It as a Televisión controled by Chrome Cast or FireTv.

 

I see you have turned It on using a "Panasonic" remote control that is helpfull to be sure que TV screen works fine.

 

I assume maybe I will need to buy a beosystem 3 have you found any other solution?

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