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Wifi router recommended by B&O

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Hiort
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Hiort Posted: Wed, Jun 2 2021 9:27 AM

Will change ISP at home and need to replace my current router.

Do B&O recommend certain routers?

From the various threads in the forum, Mesh seem to be something that is not recommended in conjunction with B&O stuff.

 

 

 

 

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I have a Xyzel Multy X mesh system - now a couple of years old. 

Its certainly not the latest, greatest or fastest by any means, nor the latest protocols.

Works fine with a generic (UK) Smarthub with all my B&O NL gear without issue - including TV Streaming.

I dont think you will have any problems once you have tethered the router or Mesh wifi to the NL products.

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Hiort replied on Wed, Jun 2 2021 3:29 PM
Thanks.

Got a response from my dealer. He said that B&O recommend Cisco or Unifi but not Netgear / TP-Link .

Will probably go for Unifi Dream Machine since I already use two Unifi access points.

 

 

 

 

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I use Unifi with router, several switches and access points combined with a cloudkey. You then get perfect control and insights about your network. Every time you add an access point, it will be automatically configured with the right settings and credentials. 
Using switches with POE functionality makes that you can feed your access points without any extra powersupplys for them. 

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Just an example when you use the topology function from the Unifi app.

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Beobuddy:

I use Unifi with router, several switches and access points combined with a cloudkey. You then get perfect control and insights about your network. Every time you add an access point, it will be automatically configured with the right settings and credentials. Using switches with POE functionality makes that you can feed your access points without any extra powersupplys for them.

Hello

Which router do you use?

I have a netgear managed switch but sometimes it’s buggy.

What is cloud key?

I have a AC-Lite AP and it’s great might expand further with a POE switch and perhaps new router.

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I use the Unifi security gateway. 


A Unifi Cloudkey is a kind of small dongle you connect to your network. It has a memory card and it used to store your settings (different network id's you can use and credentials you have for accessing your wifi. I still use the first one (V1).

Every time you add an extra access point , settings are transferred from the dongle to the new access point. So, you only need to have to program only once your Wifi id and password. Every access point gets the same settings and the Unifi system regulates to which access point you will be connected.

It's a rather smart system.
You need to have all components from Unifi to get the full potential. If you use a different brand switch in your network, it will not be visible in topology. The connections will be visible, but visible as connected to the former (Unifi) component.

The advantage you have with this system is that it helps when your network doesn't perform as expected. As an example the lines are green (1000Mb/s) or orange (100Mb/s) or dotted when it is wireless.  When,  for instance, there is orange connection between 2 gigabit devices, you know that there is an issue.

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I bought tp-link deco x60 mesh system about 2 months ago and never got it to work flawlessly with my B&O system.

Last week I installed the unifi dream machine. So far it has worked without any problems. This includes two access points to cover the entire house. This feels like a very stable premium system, the only remark is that it requires perserverance during installation. It takes time to configure, so wait out the system so it's easy.

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Hiort replied on Thu, Jun 3 2021 6:16 PM
Moningsand:

I bought tp-link deco x60 mesh system about 2 months ago and never got it to work flawlessly with my B&O system.

Last week I installed the unifi dream machine. So far it has worked without any problems. This includes two access points to cover the entire house. This feels like a very stable premium system, the only remark is that it requires perserverance during installation. It takes time to configure, so wait out the system so it's easy.

B&O recommend to avoid Mesh networks.

 

 

 

 

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Hiort:
B&O recommend to avoid Mesh networks.

Anyone with some networking/IT knowledge would recommend to stay away from mesh networks Big Smile

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Hiort replied on Tue, Aug 24 2021 3:16 PM

Can add to the thread that I finally purchased a UNIFI Dream Machine (UDM).

I have added one AP to improve the coverage, as I notice that e.g M5 do not have a very good WiFi reception capabilities. 

The UDM have a lot of functionality for the really advanced network people, but is still easy to use for someone as me Smile

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tim84 replied on Sat, Sep 25 2021 6:53 AM

I habe completely redone our homenetwork and b&o network and now everything works perfectly.

i changed everything from a standard system to something professional. I decided to go with Netgear but I think the brand doesn’t matter.

This is my setup

  • modem | DrayTek Vigor 2865
  • Router | Netgear BR200
  • POe Switch | 2x Netgear GSM4230UP
  • Wireless Access Point | 3x Netgear WAX630

This was the setup I got recommended by a professional from my company (I work for an IT Distributor)

After one week of setup I have 0 problems with b&o, Homeoffice, etc. As this setup is able to run over 10 simultaneous Wifis this is no normal solution. There is no problem with Wi-Fi mesh as the system has way more functionalities thane home use systems. As b&o stuff doesn’t move all of my b&o gear has a fix Wi-Fi Acces Point they connect to and they are not able to change it.

 

nice side note. I have Poe++ with 90Watts per port everywhere. We even run our lighting via POE and most of the other stuff. Sadly b&o won’t support Poe. A Poe Loudspeaker would be very nice. Just one cable for network and power ;-)

 

the whole setup was 2k EUR including all cables etc but this setup takes the space of a small rack. So you can decide to go with something professional or commercial. I think as we mostly spend a huge amount of budget on our gear the professional setup is with the money. But to be honest I wouldn’t have done it if I had to pay for the manpower. This was 3 days of setup of an IT consultant and security expert. With such a setup you get no support from your ISP.

 

 

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pig30n replied on Sat, Sep 25 2021 6:28 PM

I have ASUS XT8 AX6600 mesh and can confirm it works with various BO products.

I’m also using 3-band 2Gbps (Wifi 6) Wireless backhaul between mesh points, so that’s kinda extreme. I’m genuinely surprised it works :).

There’s a small out-of-sync in the BO App when I roam between mesh points. It says the BS Core is not connected. For sure it’s the app’s fault not the Asus mesh because Spotify Connect App stays in-sync to the BS Core when I roam between mesh points. I’m using the iPhone BO app.

Few thoughts about Beolab Transmitter 1 and 5GHz WiFis. As a general rule make sure you keep channels 36-64 free from whatever WiFi router or mesh you are using. When TR1 powers on it will look for free channels and tries first in this range. So change your router channel settings for 5Ghz networks above this range with a fixed channel. Some newer routers know how to use DFS channels (100-165) or even 6GHz bands (the new WiFi 6E). From my testings the TR1 is pretty powerful. But if your wireless Beolabs start popping or turning on/off/on then this means there is a channel collision between your router (or neighbor’s) and TR1. Make a WiFi site survey to see. The problem is that routers don’t know about WiSA networks, they only know the 802.11 standard.

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Mikipidia replied on Sat, Sep 25 2021 9:39 PM
I’ve been using ubiquiti amplifi hd mesh and it’s been great, no issues at all, and almost everything is wirelessSmile

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Bw789 replied on Sat, Sep 25 2021 10:16 PM

Not at all, if configured properly they can be a great asset!

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Bw789 replied on Sat, Sep 25 2021 10:17 PM

The Unifi Dream Machine is a great ALL-IN-ONE router, Ubiquiti have announced it's successor coming soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySedVXALdXQ

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