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Oups….beojeff beat me on that
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I remember back in the early days of the BeoSound Moment discussions on this forum about the potential of adding home automation control to the Moment. Seeing now how the home automation control is handled on the Halo, I can see how nicely this could have been done on the Moment. A simple and elegant interface. 8 buttons on a page (a row) and being able to move among three pages just by scrolling up or down on the screen. I might now need to add another Halo to my nightstand.
This also can give us a nice work-around from the limitation of only adding 2 linked devices to any NL device. For example, a BeoSound 9000, BeoSystem 4500, BeoSystem 5500, etc, in excess of the 2 linked devices can now be started by pressing a virtual button for a macro on the Halo's home control page and then joining that source on the Halo to play through the NL device with the speakers.
kuyttendaele: Just received an email from Khimon that the BLI does not support Apple Homekit :-(
Just received an email from Khimon that the BLI does not support Apple Homekit :-(
BLI does not support Homekit directly, but there are ways of getting around this. The simplest way is using the Home Assistant driver. For me, the only system I have that is not supported by BLGW is Ikea Tradfri. I got around this by creating an automation in Homekit where turning on an unused Wemo Mini would turn on the Ikea lights in my kitchen. Similarly, I created a Homekit automation where turning off the Wemo Mini would turn off those lights. Since the Wemo Mini is a system supported by BLGW, I added the Wemo On and Off actions in macros. I believe I could achieve the same result with Lutron RadioRa 2 "phantom buttons" instead of the Wemo Mini. Not straightforward, but it gets the job done.
My dealer has told me that the home automation control was always intended as the primary purpose of the Halo: a simple, intuitive interface for the BLI to control lights, shades, and thermostat in one unified device with a wheel and an organized interface. The music control was just a secondary benefit. He said that a year ago they didn't have the software ready for the home control but had it ready for the music control. Therefore, B&O decided to go ahead and release the Halo with that limited functionality. My dealer said that there is still more to come....
I really wonder whether BLI supports any kind of location/presence triggered events? Like for example, when you join home wifi (meaning, you're home). GPS-based thing is not good enough, example: if I'm in a gym on a ground floor of a building and not in my apartment 13 floors above GPS would still indicate I'm pretty much at the same location. If yes, I can think of investing in BLI to drive automation with Hue, Stage, A9 etc. Hopefully Khimo will publish soon some YT videos to demonstrate how Halo now controls things...
My BLI arrived yesterday and integrating it with my 4 BeoRemote Halos was very fast and easy. I found the default automatic configuration to be very logical and a really good starting point before customizing the pages and buttons. The automatic configuration creates a first page with scenes for that room, a second page for lights in that room, and a third page for scenes for the entire home. Of course, this can all be changed with customization.
One thing that I don't like is that when you go to a page, the first button starts out in the MIDDLE of the page instead of being to the first position on the left. This mean that you don't automatically utilize the full screen until you scroll to the right.
I followed the instructions on Khimo's website to make a CLOCK button that shows the time and date. This makes the Halo useful as a clock and even an alarm clock that could have a snooze function with some macros.
I also followed Khimo's instructions to make a WEATHER button that shows if it's raining, snowing, hot, or cold outside. I modified this to make it even more useful by showing the outside temperature.
I had thought the Halo could be useful in allowing the selection of extra audio sources that are outside of the primary and secondary linked devices. The automatic configuration must have thought so as well as it added a few of these in the initial setup.
I liked the Halo before this update, but now I REALLY love it.
Thanks beojeff for the update, I am really getting now more and more intrigued... btw, what is needed (beside) BLI to also see the weather on Halo? Some external sensors?
AnalogPlanet: Thanks beojeff for the update, I am really getting now more and more intrigued... btw, what is needed (beside) BLI to also see the weather on Halo? Some external sensors?
Nothing else is needed. The Open Weather system is already built-in to the BLI. You enter your coordinates and it pulls weather data for you -- all for free. Isn't that great?
Another great feature is the thermostat. I have the Nest thermostat (fortunately grandfathered in before Nest stoped its "Works with Nest" integration. I now have a thermostat control on each of my Halos. The Halo button shows the current temperature in your home. You can use the Halo wheel to adjust the set-point for what you want the temperature to be. This is amazing. It's just like having Nest thermostats in every room that has a Halo.
Sure, there are apps on the ipad that show a lot more information and options for control all at once -- such as the Home Assistant Companion app. However the Halo -- in all its beautiful finishes -- is there to be a simple and elegant control interface on the table or wall. This really is for people who want to keep their home interior elegant and without clutter.
You can set your nest thermostats to always show outside weather and it automatically turns on the screen when you walk by it.
Other simple and elegant solution would be a $30 Google hub.
"hey google, set the thermostat to 30"
Or spend $2000+ for the halo to do the same thing but fiddle around menus and remember to charge the thing EVERY DAY.
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Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: You can set your nest thermostats to always show outside weather and it automatically turns on the screen when you walk by it. Other simple and elegant solution would be a $30 Google hub. "hey google, set the thermostat to 30" Or spend $2000+ for the halo to do the same thing but fiddle around menus and remember to charge the thing EVERY DAY.
You've made your position clear. It makes no sense why you're even interested in B&O. Go buy Sony and same yourself some money and stay off this site.
beojeff:I also followed Khimo's instructions to make a WEATHER button that shows if it's raining, snowing, hot, or cold outside. I modified this to make it even more useful by showing the outside temperature.
Hello Beojeff,
did you make any changes to the original code in order to make it work? I am trying to run it but I get a message that there is a value error on line three.
Tassos: beojeff:I also followed Khimo's instructions to make a WEATHER button that shows if it's raining, snowing, hot, or cold outside. I modified this to make it even more useful by showing the outside temperature. Hello Beojeff, did you make any changes to the original code in order to make it work? I am trying to run it but I get a message that there is a value error on line three.
I was able to get the original code to work. Note that you must replace the zone/room/name of the halo with what yours is in your configuration. You must also replace the id number of the halo button with what yours is. For the weather macro, you must set up Open Weather as a system and create the resource. You then replace the name of the open weather resource in the code with the name of your open weather resource.
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beojeff:I was able to get the original code to work. Note that you must replace the zone/room/name of the halo with what yours is in your configuration. You must also replace the id number of the halo button with what yours is. For the weather macro, you must set up Open Weather as a system and create the resource. You then replace the name of the open weather resource in the code with the name of your open weather resource.
Hello again Beojeff and thank you for the response. I did all of what you suggest but I keep getting a message that there is an error in line 3 ( local rain = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Rain")).
beojeff: Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker: You can set your nest thermostats to always show outside weather and it automatically turns on the screen when you walk by it. Other simple and elegant solution would be a $30 Google hub. "hey google, set the thermostat to 30" Or spend $2000+ for the halo to do the same thing but fiddle around menus and remember to charge the thing EVERY DAY. You've made your position clear. It makes no sense why you're even interested in B&O. Go buy Sony and same yourself some money and stay off this site.
Ok cuz you say so I will. Lol.
I have lots of B&O products and I think I'll stay and offer a non-blinded fanboy opinion. Thanks for the suggestion though. :)
Notice the halo is basically on a clearance sale. That must be because they are selling so well and no way do they plan on a revised version. :D
Tassos: \ beojeff:I was able to get the original code to work. Note that you must replace the zone/room/name of the halo with what yours is in your configuration. You must also replace the id number of the halo button with what yours is. For the weather macro, you must set up Open Weather as a system and create the resource. You then replace the name of the open weather resource in the code with the name of your open weather resource. Hello again Beojeff and thank you for the response. I did all of what you suggest but I keep getting a message that there is an error in line 3 ( local rain = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Rain")).
What resource did you create and use for the Open Weather system?
Maybe it would help for you to be able to compare Khimo's example of those first few lines of code with mine so you can see what needed to be replaced.
Here is Khimo's code:
function(event, engine) weather_query = engine.query("My_Area/My_Zone/_CURRENT_WEATHER/Uruguay") local rain = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Rain") local snow = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Snow") local temperature = weather_query[1].get_celsius("_Temperature")
Here is my code:
function(event, engine) weather_query = engine.query("Home/Master Bathroom/_CURRENT_WEATHER/Indianapolis") local rain = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Rain") local snow = weather_query[1].get_boolean("_Snow") local temperature = weather_query[1].get_fahrenheit("_Temperature")
I think that I have made a mistake somewhere with the city variable...how did you set yours?
Tassos: I think that I have made a mistake somewhere with the city variable...how did you set yours?
When setting up the Open Weather resource, you must enter your coordinates in the address field. You can find your latitude and longitude coordinates in the "date and time" tab tab under "setup." The city that I used is just what I happened to put in the "name" filed of the resource.
The coordinates should be in this format: "39.76:-86.15"
The variable that you use is not necessarily the name of a city or country but just whatever you put as the "name" of the resource.
beojeff:The variable that you use is not necessarily the name of a city or country but just whatever you put as the "name" of the resource.
OK this I understand but I think I haven't "linked" correctly the coordinates to the variable. What kind of variable you created (boolean, string, integer)? An how you have linked it to the longitude latitude?
PS I honestly appreciate your patience and will to help :-)
Tassos: beojeff:The variable that you use is not necessarily the name of a city or country but just whatever you put as the "name" of the resource. OK this I understand but I think I haven't "linked" correctly the coordinates to the variable. What kind of variable you created (boolean, string, integer)? An how you have linked it to the longitude latitude? PS I honestly appreciate your patience and will to help :-)
I think you might be missing a crucial step. You must go to the "resources" page and create a resource for your Open Weather system. The resource configuration is pretty straightforward. There is a box where you give the resource a name, a box where you decide whether that resource is for the current weather or a forecast, and a box where you type in your coordinates.
beojeff:I think you might be missing a crucial step. You must go to the "resources" page and create a resource for your Open Weather system. The resource configuration is pretty straightforward. There is a box where you give the resource a name, a box where you decide whether that resource is for the current weather or a forecast, and a box where you type in your coordinates.
I finally made it work. The issue was with the resource, a letter wrong and it didn't work. I have a new issue though :-) When I press the button I get only the subtitle, the icon remains the same. Any ideas?
UPDATE:
Fixed this as well. There was a double forward slash in the code
New software for Halo today: version 1.4.759!
Have still to find out the changes
Carolpa:New software for Halo 1.4.759 today! Have still to find out the changes
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Razlaw: Carolpa: New software for Halo 1.4.759 today! Have still to find out the changes There is a picture in the Beotalk thread of it after the update…..adds color!
Carolpa: New software for Halo 1.4.759 today! Have still to find out the changes
New software for Halo 1.4.759 today!
There is a picture in the Beotalk thread of it after the update…..adds color!
More ‘pictures’ here:
https://youtu.be/C_6tj-WgBwo
Millemissen: Razlaw: Carolpa: New software for Halo 1.4.759 today! Have still to find out the changes There is a picture in the Beotalk thread of it after the update…..adds color! More ‘pictures’ here: https://youtu.be/C_6tj-WgBwo MM
This guy should make his video's in English, it looks like he's making quality content no one else is doing on B&O. There are also no subtitles available, so we can only look at the pictures :)
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swestland: This guy should make his video's in English, it looks like he's making quality content no one else is doing on B&O. There are also no subtitles available, so we can only look at the pictures :)
Pictures was all that I promised you in my post!
Please consider how much extra work it would be to make subtitles (he makes a lot of videoos).
Some videos are in english - and Henrik in often in the Beotalk YT videos…..explaining stuff that he recently has made videos about.
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Excellent. One of the most useful buttons: the ability to pause TV. I can now get rid of a RadioRa2 pico remote that I had on my coffee table to pause the TV. This might seem like a minor addition, but it's one that is extremely practical.
I had no idea that the Halo had a color display! Who knows what else B&O is holding up their sleeve to surprise us.
Learning that the Halo display was capable of color all this time, I'm now wondering about that indication for a microphone that was in the pre-release diagrams.
Damn, should've bought the Halo during that 30% sale... But as I don't have the TV yet I thought I wait it out a bit, but now I think I need to get myself it anyway as xmas present.
In the specs on the B&O site, it now shows that the Halo is compatible with the BLC NL/ML! However, none of my NL/ML converters show up as devices to add for control. None of my converters have speakers connected. I wonder if this could be the reason. Has anyone been able to add their converters as devices to control by the Halo?
My BLC isn't showing up in the Halo controls either, though it is only connected to a BS9000, not any speakers.
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the beosystem 4 is also now working with the halo!
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Good afternoon
Just ordered a Halo for my table next to my sofa which I will also need to buy :)
No idea why I need one or what I will use it for but the potential for Bli and the TV control and plain old just why not made me do it :)
Eclipse 65V1-32Beosound M5Essence MK2BLI
BV Harmony 65 / Eclipse 55 / BL 50 / 19 / 18 / BS 2 all brass
BV Horizon 48 / V1 40 / BL 17 / Beoplay S3 all black
V1 / BL 3 / BS Essence MKII / Beoplay A3 all white
BS Moment / BS 3000 / BS 3200 / BL 400 all silver
Headphones / bluetooth speakers / BLC NL-ML / BLGateway
I know…B&O virus has grown on me !
Seanie_230: Good afternoon Just ordered a Halo for my table next to my sofa which I will also need to buy :) No idea why I need one or what I will use it for but the potential for Bli and the TV control and plain old just why not made me do it :)
I'm sure you'll like it, Sean! We can collaborate on some fun macros. Which color did you get?
Fansastic:Notices a strange behaviour with my Halo. Playing from my Moment through the Harmony and when changing the volume, the volume ring (not the actual volume) springs back and then after few seconds springs forward again. It does not occur when I use my remote one, them the volume ring on the Halo shows the actual increase / decrease of the volume. Anyone else who can reproduce this glitch?
Anyone else who can reproduce this glitch?