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Connecting Playmaker

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djs Posted: Thu, Mar 14 2013 5:27 PM

Greetings,

Following the instructions I connected the Playmaker to power, speakers (BeoLab 3s), and with an ethernet cable to my BT Hub (Router).  I streamed music from my Mac laptop via Airplay in iTunes.  It worked on the first day despite some dropouts.

Opening iTunes on the second day, Airplay doesn't find Playmaker at all.

As it worked on the first day, I don't think I did anything wrong.  Any suggestions?

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Opman replied on Thu, Mar 14 2013 9:31 PM

Power off your BT router then on again. That may cure the issue.

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djs replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 8:40 AM

Thank you.  Turning the BT Hub off and on again seems to have reconnected Airplay on the Mac to Playmaker.  I'll confirm whether this has solved the problem after a day or two of operation.  Thanks again.

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djs replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 5:18 PM

Update.  Same problem continues.  Apple Airplay loses connection with the Playmaker after a while.  It may stay connected for 30 minutes before dropping out.  It then cannot reconnect. 

Spoke to my dealer who after some research on the web said the problem was with the BT Home Hub (Router).  He said I probably have an older Hub.  I have had the BT Hub for 18 months so I don't know if it is considered old.  He suggested I pursue BT to change the Hub or buy a different router.  I am not technical so this is just becoming more confusing for me.  Incidentally, I told the dealer I had a BT Hub when I purchased the Playmaker.

Has anyone had similar issues with the Playmaker and a BT Home Hub?   Any advice about the best course of action would be appreciated.

djs 

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jk1002 replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 5:31 PM

I use mine in corporate apartments when I travel so I had it exposed to a range of routers.

It works mostly, but right now I have a similar problem.  No BT though.

 

I think in my case its caused by a weak connection. The Playmaker shows an orange colored light indicating this.  What color is yours? 

 

 

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djs replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 5:54 PM

I think the orange light means a poor connection.  Mine drops out and cannot reconnect.

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BeoHut replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 9:41 PM

What you could do, as a extra check, is to change the channel of your router. Therefore you can set the router to channel 1, 6 or 11. Reboot your router after this change. Set up your Playmaker again to your wireless ndtwork with the BeoSetup app. You can reset your PM by putting in a paperclip at the bottom. See your manual for further instructions. When the PM led flashes orange, then setup your PM with the Beo app. 

Your Playmaker should then show you a white led, to make sure the wifisignal is strong enough. Then try connection via Airplay again. 

Eventually you can try this with different channels on your router. Choose the best signal. Good luck!

 

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Raeuber replied on Fri, Mar 15 2013 10:20 PM
And don't allow the router to change the cannel automaticly. Set your router to the best channel and fix it!
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vlohjr1 replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 12:39 AM
djs:

Update. Same problem continues. Apple Airplay loses connection with the Playmaker after a while. It may stay connected for 30 minutes before dropping out. It then cannot reconnect.

Spoke to my dealer who after some research on the web said the problem was with the BT Home Hub (Router). He said I probably have an older Hub. I have had the BT Hub for 18 months so I don't know if it is considered old. He suggested I pursue BT to change the Hub or buy a different router. I am not technical so this is just becoming more confusing for me. Incidentally, I told the dealer I had a BT Hub when I purchased the Playmaker.

Has anyone had similar issues with the Playmaker and a BT Home Hub? Any advice about the best course of action would be appreciated.

djs

I have exactly the same issues airplay wireless works but not Ethernet which drops after about 30min this really p me off I use BT router home hub 3.0 and have also set channels but no use

Using Ethernet my iPhone does not recognise the pm even though the light is white and I don't understand it

I really regret trading my sonos for the pm...

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djs replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 4:04 PM

Changing channels in the router failed.  Same problem persisted.  

BT say there is nothing wrong with their Home Hub (router).  They say the problem is with Airplay or the Playmaker.

I'm running out of solutions.  Maybe time to return the Playmaker.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

djs

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djs replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 4:04 PM

Changing channels in the router failed.  Same problem persisted.  

BT say there is nothing wrong with their Home Hub (router).  They say the problem is with Airplay or the Playmaker.

I'm running out of solutions.  Maybe time to return the Playmaker.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

djs

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djs replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 4:05 PM

Sorry for double posting.  Anxiously hit the button twice.

djs

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nai1955 replied on Sat, Mar 16 2013 8:04 PM

HI,

Have had similar problems with my BT Router on infinity 2. The playmaker doesn't seem to detect the router so I connected it wired. Still no joy. For a piece of plastic with a few wires inside the cost of this item from B&O is ridiculous compared with other simlar devices. They work. This doesn't. What am i doing wrong. Any ideas how to connect my itunes to the playmaker.

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DoubleU replied on Sun, Mar 17 2013 6:48 AM

If that BT device is a combined router/modem you should configure that device to act as modem only and add a decent router (B&O recommends Cisco) that works with the Playmaker. 

Sure you can say the PlayMaker should work with any router, but your not the first that have problems with a modem/router that comes with your provider. And I strongly believe there are more products on the market that won’t work with this router.

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vlohjr1 replied on Sun, Mar 17 2013 8:41 AM
djs:

Changing channels in the router failed. Same problem persisted.

BT say there is nothing wrong with their Home Hub (router). They say the problem is with Airplay or the Playmaker.

I'm running out of solutions. Maybe time to return the Playmaker.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

djs

Djs

Does your playmakerwork wirelessly without Ethernet connection to the router?

Regards

Vince
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Hi all,

my Playmaker is working as expected from day one Yes - thumbs up

Although I am a hardwire-guy, my PM is wireless connected - it was too much trouble to run a Cat-cable to the location where it is (connected to my audiomaster).

Do not blame your problems on the PM - solve your network problems first!

Grrr! Millemissen

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djs replied on Sun, Mar 17 2013 4:19 PM

I tried a wireless connection without the ethernet cable but that failed too.  Curiously, it crashes each time while using the set up app.  

I am able to stream music wirelessly from my laptop via Airplay through the router to Apple TV without any issues.  Would this not suggest the problem may be with Playmaker rather than the router?

djs 

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Jeff replied on Sun, Mar 17 2013 5:27 PM

I've always been interested in the issues as to why some wireless setups work and others don't, particularly as I was reading reviews of wireless routers when I was having issues with my cheap Belkin unit. If you read the reviews, they are all over the map, some people setup easily and never have issues, some don't, and the differences seem too big and random to be just due to operator error. Sounds a lot like B&O Play issues.

There's the issue of interferrence of course, different environments have more or less noise on the same bands but I think it goes beyond that. A friend who's an IT guy for a college and I discussed it, and his observation is that the "standards" for wireless networking are too often treated as suggestions by different device and wireless router vendors. To the point where it's hard to predict what will or will not work well. I remember a few years ago a certain Intel wireless chipset didn't work worth squat with many routers. Honestly, you'd hope that standards were standards but apparently not, which might explain why the Playmaker doesn't play well with some setups. Personally for non-Apple setups I've found things like the older Airports and such to be very problematic, though I haven't tried a newer one. The old one really mucked up my network, when you could get it to connect at all.

 

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djs replied on Mon, Mar 18 2013 3:48 PM

What I find difficult as a non technical person is that B&O blame the router and BT (who supply the router) blame Playmaker.  This doesn't help the poor customer.

I have a very simple set up. A BT Home Hub, BT Vision box, Samsung TV, Apple TV, BeoLab 3s and Playmaker.  Music is fed wirelessly via Airplay from an up to date Mac laptop.  There is no problem streaming to the Apple TV.  The Playmaker on the other hand, keeps disconnecting from Airplay.

 Thanks for reading,

djs 

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BeoHut replied on Mon, Mar 18 2013 5:09 PM
You can test your Playmaker in another environment. Take the Playmaker to family, friends and let it play/work there. If it plays stable without any dropout, then you know the PM is ok and your hub or network causes the problems. If the PM gives dropouts in an other environment, then go to your dealer for a repair/replacement. You can even test it without connecting speakers. Test it wired and wireless.

Just some thoughts of finding the problems. Succes! And let us know what solutions you tried.
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djs replied on Mon, Mar 18 2013 5:51 PM

Surely, if I am able to successfully stream wirelessly using Airplay to the Apple TV then it can't be the hub at fault.  Or am I missing something here?

djs 

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vlohjr1 replied on Mon, Mar 18 2013 7:51 PM
Djs

Strangely my pm is wireless but can be air played with iPhone but when connected via Ethernet cable the pm dropout after 30 minutesI have asked my regular dealer and have no reply whatsoever. My pm has been replaced once and the faulty one is now used at the dealer with no problems....

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djs replied on Thu, Apr 18 2013 12:31 PM

UPDATE.  The problem of Playmaker dropping out regularly has been solved!   I have a new BT Home Hub 3 (Version B) which works flawlessly with Playmaker.  My previous BT Home Hub 3 (Version A) was the problem.  The problem was only with Playmaker though, as it functioned perfectly with Apple TV using Airplay.

After advice from my B&O dealer, I contacted BT who sent the new HH3(B).  So, anyone with a BT HH3 who is having problems should check which version it is.

I would like to add how pleased I am with the sound quality and ease of use of the Playmaker.  I am so happy with it that I am seriously considering selling my BeoCenter 2.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and advice.

djs

 

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That is great - enjoy 🎵

But please consider keeping your BC2 - you can easily connect the Playmaker to the A.AUX of the BC2.

Greetings MM

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vlohjr1 replied on Thu, Apr 18 2013 2:08 PM
Djs

How can one find out if the hhb 3 is version a or b?

Thanks

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djs replied on Thu, Apr 18 2013 3:56 PM

Vince,

To confirm whether your HH3 is A or B, go into settings at http://bthomehub.home.  You will need your password of course.  

Hope this helps.

djs

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vlohjr1 replied on Thu, Apr 18 2013 11:26 PM
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Vince,

To confirm whether your HH3 is A or B, go into settings at http://bthomehub.home . You will need your password of course.

Hope this helps.

djs

Many thanks for this

I have a b version but my Pm is connected over power line which dropouts even though the signal on the pm is white

Is yours directly connected to bthh3?

Thanks

Vince
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djs replied on Fri, Apr 19 2013 8:04 AM

Vince,

My Playmaker is connected to the HH3 by Ethernet. 

 djs

 

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w5bno123 replied on Sat, Jul 20 2013 11:57 PM
Hi Vince

I was curious to know if you have resolved your PM and Home Hub 3 issues?

We have plenty of clients with home hubs and we experience so many issues with them. I have found that the HH3 cannot support bonjour multicasting and loses connection after 20-30 mins, a reset only resolves the issue for a short while.

If you read the HH3 community forum a lot of people are having Airplay connection issues, the problem is the finger pointing then starts and BT wash their hands of the issues which 9/10 is router related.

People don't realise how bad their free of charge supplied ISP routers actually are and begrudge paying additional costs for a quality access point.

We would love to know other people's findings and experiences
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djs replied on Sun, Jul 21 2013 7:58 AM

As the original poster of this thread, I have to report that I have given up on Playmaker and packed it away.  

I did have initial success when BT supplied me with a new HH3 (version B).   Although I no longer had the issue of losing the connection, I did start to experience dropouts.  The dropouts would only be for a few seconds but due to the regularity of them I soon grew tired of them. 

I want to make the point that my Apple TV works flawlessly.  So, to say that the problem is the HH3 cannot be entirely correct.  I don't understand why the Apple TV works with Airplay and HH3 but the Playmaker doesn't. 

djs

 

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moxxey replied on Sun, Jul 21 2013 1:55 PM

djs:

Has anyone had similar issues with the Playmaker and a BT Home Hub?   Any advice about the best course of action would be appreciated.

The Playmaker right royally gets on my t*ts, I can tell you :)

I bought a MKI a couple of months ago and was quite to open a thread saying how good it was and how the sound quality was ace compared to my Airport Express. Still believe this to be the case. Sound quality is superb.

However, one area where the Airport Express excels over the Playmaker, is Airplay connectivity. The Airport Express, in the same setup, in the same room, about 5 metres away from my Apple Time Capsule, never (!) loses the connection. The Playmaker loses the connection, nearly all the time often for 20 seconds at a time. Sometimes it disappears from Airplay altogether.

I've tried my Netgear router, gone back to the Time Capsule, manually setup a wifi channel, set the channel to automatic, but it's still the same.

As a comparison, the BS8, connected to an Airport Express, downstairs, many metres from the Time Capsule, never loses the connection. It's definitely a Playmaker issue.

This week I'm going to buy a power socket solution and connect via ethernet, see if this makes a difference. I'll report back.

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Jeff replied on Sun, Jul 21 2013 2:48 PM

Try swapping the positions of the A8 and Playmaker and see if there's a change to the wireless performance of either. Instead of it being a Playmaker issue it could be a problem with interference that only affects one position and doesn't make it to where the A8 is now. Something to check. 

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Yendys replied on Sun, Jul 21 2013 11:28 PM
While I think the PM MK1 is really fab its used daily to feed quality music throughout the house it just isn't reliable and does disconnect. I have high quality router and done extensive testing and comparisons around my house it isn't as reliable as other airplay devices. I put up with it (disconnects once/twice a day) but wonder if this has been resolved with the MK2? I might get a MK2 and try it
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Is it the connection that fails or just the processor that cannot keep up the pace?

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Is it the connection that fails or just the processor that cannot keep up the pace?

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kokomo replied on Mon, Jul 22 2013 8:34 AM

This from the B&O website describing the Playmaker:-

"How you enjoy your digital music with Bang & Olufsen sound is totally up to you, your family or your friends. AirPlay, DLNA or NAS. Apple or Android . The possibilities are virtually endless. The pleasure, hassle free."

I think I'll stick to my AEs!


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Just want to point out that my Playmaker runs perfect since the frst day.

I tried a wireless connection as I first set it up, because it was rather difficult to get a wired connection to the room where it is located.

It worked flawless - and so it stayed!

MM

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