Connection of Gefen HDMI Expander

Hallo,

now it is time that I have to expand my HDMI connections.

I had a look in the menu of my BeoSystem 3. The HDMI Expander menu is grayed out. I cannot select the PUC. But I know that the PUC for Gefen is installed. I think it is not available since the Expander is connected to the BeoSystem. Can someone please give me feedback if this is the case? Or why I cannot select the point HDMI Expander in the menu?

Another question: Where do I have to connect the IR emitter diode? I assume that this is necessary, isn't it? But where?

Thanks,
Frank

Did you enable HDMI expander in the connections menu?

The expander is controlled via IR Control OUT (IR 1 + 2) socket of the television
using the Y-splitter B&O Item 7229212 and being connecting to the “Gold” terminal. (from Vienna's post to another thread)

hfat

Ah, thank you. I think I found the thread (http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/5228.aspx?PageIndex=2).

The menu point HDMI expander is grayed out in the connections menu. Do I have to enable the matrix feature? It seems there is code needed. Is this something you have to pay for? If so, do you know how much it is?

Is the Atlona matrix switch a newer one than the Gefen? I think the functionality is the same but you need another PUC, right?

Thank you for the hint with the ir socket. I think the first one is controlling my TV (on/off).

Frank

The matrix feature is a similar but more advanced function. To enable the HDMI axpander you don't need the matrix feature.There is nothing to pay for the HDMI expander. To make the Atlona matrix work you need the Atlona PUCs and have to pay for the activation of the matrix feature.

Which TV do you use?

hfat

frank2u:

Ah, thank you. I think I found the thread (http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/5228.aspx?PageIndex=2).

The menu point HDMI expander is grayed out in the connections menu. Do I have to enable the matrix feature? It seems there is code needed. Is this something you have to pay for? If so, do you know how much it is?

Is the Atlona matrix switch a newer one than the Gefen? I think the functionality is the same but you need another PUC, right?

Thank you for the hint with the ir socket. I think the first one is controlling my TV (on/off).

Frank

Hi Frank,

I have a BV 7-40 3D with built in Beosystem 3.

Although I have no PUC for HDMI expander installed, menu point HDMI expander is NOT greyed out. I can select YES or NO, and if I select yes, no PUC is shown because not installed.

You don't have to activate HDMI matrix. If you want to activate it, you need a code and you have to pay for this code. Matrix is a different feature than Expander.

I hope this helps a little, although I don't know why HDMI expander is greyed out on your BS 3.

Regards

Räuber

Hallo,

thank you for the responses.

My dealer installed (some years ago) the PUC for Philips TV. It is only for TV on and off and it is working well. The ir emitter is connected to IR1+2. And now I think that could be the case why the menu point HDMI expander is grayed out. This makes sense.

Frank

I use a Gefen HDMI expander in combination with a BV10 (no BV7).

Dealer installed the puc for this expander on my telly. Works very well!

Beofan53:

I use a Gefen HDMI expander in combination with a BV10 (no BV7).

Dealer installed the puc for this expander on my telly. Works very well!

Does this give you independent control of the independent sources? Through the PUC?

Or simply video switching?

Most benefit is that you can use different PUCs (and system switches to the choosen input).

Frank

Could someone please explain exactly how the expander is set up with PUC?

What must you do when you connect the extra devices to the switch/expander and you want to control these with the Beo4?

Suddently you need more PUC-inputs that the tv has, since you (I suppose) need one input for each of the new devices???

We need some kind of tutorial on this subject.

Greetings Millemissen

 

Have a look here:

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/444.aspx?PageIndex=9

last post.

There is a good overview with the Atlona switch. Gefen should work in the same way. IR Emitter for switch connected to IR1+2. PUC for Gefen or Atlona is available.

Could someone explain what is the difference between the Gefen and Atlona? What is the matrix?

Frank

 

Hi Frank,

what you can't know is, that the initial question came from me - on the danish Hifi4All/PeterPan-site and through PM:

http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42140&PN=0&TPN=37 

Peter Pan has made the drawing - he is 'master of making such drawings' - and posted it there.

So that does not at all answer my question

 

How - the hell - do you get hold of all the new PUC-input ports on the BV, when you have several new devices, you want to control via Beo4???

As I suppose, you will need one port for each of the extra devices connected to the switch/extender (Gefen or Atlona).

If this is not so -----how does you make the connections then??? 

What does:

"Most benefit is that you can use different PUCs (and system switches to the choosen input)." mean?

....

The Matrix is a switch with multiple outputs - this way you can distribute picture and sound in HD-quality to other BV's in different rooms, and control the sources with a Beo4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLUI4HJLFpY

Notice: that is an expensive solution - but the best of what you can do with BV's nowadays.

....

The Gefen and the Atlona does pretty much the same - some say that the Atlona is better. B&O favours Atlona since a couple of years.

Greetings Millemissen

Millemissen:

How - the hell - do you get hold of all the new PUC-input ports on the BV, when you have several new devices, you want to control via Beo4???

Okay, you are right, sorry. I forgot this important point. You need the ir emitter for the new sources as well. I have no idea

Thank you for the explanation about Matrix.

Frank

It is me again. I think I was a little bit confused yesterday.

I have a BeoSystem3 with - I think - 6 AV groups and 4 HDMI. For every AV group you have the IR output. Now I have the 5th device and want to connect to the BeoSystem. If you use one of the four HDMI inputs for the Expander aou have to use one input of the Expander for the one you pulled out. And you can use 2 more HDMI inputs for 2 more AV groups. These groups have the ir emitter output. So it is not a problem

Frank

Hi Frank,

the problem is:

ALL AV-groups are already being used!

The question is:

Can I use a PUC from the AV-group where a B&O-V8000 is connected with one of the free HDMI-port?

Next question is:

When yes, is that on all BV7-40 possible, or does it depent on the MK-version (from MK3 up - of cource).

The biggest question then is:

WHICH PUC-PORTS/PUC-OUTPUTS could be used for the new devices (on the switch) - obvisiously there are none, if you use them for the devices already connected to the AV-groups? 

You become more HDMI-ports with the switch/expander, but you don't get more PUC-PORTS that way. In other words: I need a PUC-EXPANDER for this to be done. But...I have never heard of a PUC-EXPANDER

Sorry for these questions - but you see that I 'don't get the picture' - or am asking for something that is impossible.

Seems that no one has ever used the expander this way

Greetings Millemissen