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Hi All....
Just a heads up (and your oppinion)...
I have been helping a lot of guys programming their Beo5/6 remote, and I got tired of creating macro's and so on all the time....
So...... Check out
http://www.rungwald.dk
and this YouTube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isMyKMlmjso
The whole idea is to create something like the Logitech Harmony remote configuration, And I would like to get a community up and running so we together can help each other with generating products and sharing them..
What do you guys think about this idea ? The App 1.0 is currently beeing reviewed by Apple, but I hope it will be available during this weekend..
My webpage is beeing updated with more information, so it is not 100% finished yet, but it will give very good idea on what it does.
I have used the App to create the configuration for my own Beo5, and it rocks :)
And just to clearify.. I am talking about ThirdParty products, not a substitute for the B&O tool :)
GREAT idea and solution!Oh, and welcome to the Beoworld Forum! What should the PRO-Version cost? Will it work with an iPaq 3950 or 3970, too? They do have an infrared port, too.will the XML-file keep the button layout on the screen, too after importing into the config tool?When I learn/copy remotes with the Lintronic Box and generate an xml-file for importing into the config tool it's just one mess of buttons which need to be sorted (which is no problem).
Looks like a fantastic solution to the beo5, with this I might even get round to setting up the remote instead of using it as a paper weight
Sorry about the mutiple posts.... I guess my browser just messed it all up :)
And why does the Reply button just create a new Message instead of actually replying ?
Yes, the button layout is offcourse the same when importing into the B&O config tool :) Unless you create the XML file from the iPad for a Beo5 remote and then import it into the B&O config tool as a Beo6.
The screen sizes is different, and that could cause some of the buttons to jump around a bit. But if you connect your Beo5 to the config tool so it knows it's a Beo5, and generate the XML for Beo5 and then import the XML file, all buttons are as configured in the iPad.
Regarding your Ipaq, take a look at the "RemoteControl II" site to see if your Ipaq works with the software, I would think so.
The Pro version will cost 12.99 Euro's or 11.99 US dollars or 89 Danish Kroner.
I have been a member of this Forum for many years, have just had a break, have been thinking about this solution the last 4-5 years, but I didn't get around to it before now :)
TWG: GREAT idea and solution!Oh, and welcome to the Beoworld Forum! What should the PRO-Version cost? Will it work with an iPaq 3950 or 3970, too? They do have an infrared port, too.will the XML-file keep the button layout on the screen, too after importing into the config tool?When I learn/copy remotes with the Lintronic Box and generate an xml-file for importing into the config tool it's just one mess of buttons which need to be sorted (which is no problem).
badgersurf: Looks like a fantastic solution to the beo5, with this I might even get round to setting up the remote instead of using it as a paper weight
Thanks.... The biggest issue is to get as many products as possible into the shared Database, I will upload all the products I have helped users with in the nearest future..
Hi Weebyx,
for me it's a really great Idea and looks really simple to program the XML File. I'm wondering, if Your App will be available in german store too... and would like buy the Pro version unless it doesn't cost hundreds of euros.
As far as I can see, this RC II App works with lots of Pocket WIN devices, so it's not necessary to get/have an Ipaq 2210. So the Database could be filled with a huge number of devices, to be controlled by BEO5, in a short time.
My next question is, do I need a certain BEO5 Config Tool version to upload the configuration to the device, or will it work with the versions of beo5 Config Tool which supports the 3rd party configurations? (I suppose greater than v. 4.x )
Another idea could be to fill the Color, Arrow, Play, Stop and Back buttons automatically with the appropriate commads.
Hope to see Your app soon in App-Store.
tec
tecnicus: Hi Weebyx, for me it's a really great Idea and looks really simple to program the XML File. I'm wondering, if Your App will be available in german store too... and would like buy the Pro version unless it doesn't cost hundreds of euros. As far as I can see, this RC II App works with lots of Pocket WIN devices, so it's not necessary to get/have an Ipaq 2210. So the Database could be filled with a huge number of devices, to be controlled by BEO5, in a short time. My next question is, do I need a certain BEO5 Config Tool version to upload the configuration to the device, or will it work with the versions of beo5 Config Tool which supports the 3rd party configurations? (I suppose greater than v. 4.x ) Another idea could be to fill the Color, Arrow, Play, Stop and Back buttons automatically with the appropriate commads. Hope to see Your app soon in App-Store. tec
The Pro version is very cheap :) only 12.99 Euro. I don't think this App should cost hundreds of Euro's, although I have spent a loooot of time making it, it should be for the "common user".
The App will be available in all available AppStores in the world, and you are correct regarding the config tool :)
Your idea about the HardKeys are great, but..... The whole idea with this App is to "mix" products into a configuration like "Watch TV" as I use in my webpage as an example. And then it is difficult for the App to know which Play command from the combination of the tv/amplifier/setup box is used.
Remember that it is possible to have a "TV Setup" page under the "Watch TV", and this "TV Setup" page should different commands for the HardKeys.
But I will take it into consideration :)
Weebyx:The Pro version is very cheap :) only 12.99 Euro.
The price sounds good to me.
Weebyx:Your idea about the HardKeys are great, but..... The whole idea with this App is to "mix" products into a configuration like "Watch TV" as I use in my webpage as an example. And then it is difficult for the App to know which Play command from the combination of the tv/amplifier/setup box is used.
Oh, understood. Well, what about "changing the focus" of the hardkeys? i.e. Let's say, when I open a "new config menu item - TV functions" the focus of hardkeys changes to TV (choosable from a list of configured boxes/hw items). Is it possible? This would be great, for instance when I switch to Appletv, with such a change I would be able to make some changes on TV settings i.e. Picture Mute or Colour Customizing while usind AppleTV)
Weebyx: Hi All.... Just a heads up (and your oppinion)... I have been helping a lot of guys programming their Beo5/6 remote, and I got tired of creating macro's and so on all the time.... So...... Check out
Tillykke !! Looks like a great app. If I remember correctly you created an xml configurator together with Keith Saunders years ago, right?
Hope your app will be a great success...
Stefan
tecnicus: Hi Weebyx, Weebyx:The Pro version is very cheap :) only 12.99 Euro. The price sounds good to me. Weebyx:Your idea about the HardKeys are great, but..... The whole idea with this App is to "mix" products into a configuration like "Watch TV" as I use in my webpage as an example. And then it is difficult for the App to know which Play command from the combination of the tv/amplifier/setup box is used. Oh, understood. Well, what about "changing the focus" of the hardkeys? i.e. Let's say, when I open a "new config menu item - TV functions" the focus of hardkeys changes to TV (choosable from a list of configured boxes/hw items). Is it possible? This would be great, for instance when I switch to Appletv, with such a change I would be able to make some changes on TV settings i.e. Picture Mute or Colour Customizing while usind AppleTV)
This is excactly what is possible, if you create a config item called AppleTV, and in that configuration has the "Menu" button for the AppleTV as a softkey, and then has the assigned hardkeys controlling AppleTV, then you could create a "TV Setup" button, and when you press this button, the Beo5 changes screen and you can now assign the hardkeys for your tv to the hardkeys that corrosponds to that "page". That way the Hardkeys always change to what you have assigned to that page..
But if i understand you correct, you would like to have these hardkeys assigned automatically in some way ? Maybe it should be possible to drag'n'drop a complete product to a subpage, and it will then assign the Hardkeys that maches in name to the specific hardkeys ? And then just assign all commands for that product which is NOT a known hardkey as softkeys ?
Is that what you think about ?
stefan: Tillykke !! Looks like a great app. If I remember correctly you created an xml configurator together with Keith Saunders years ago, right? Hope your app will be a great success... Stefan
Thanks :) And yes, Keith and I created the first xml configurater together... But since then I have had this idea in the back of my head(with different solutions), and now it was time to get something done about it :)
Weebyx:But if i understand you correct, you would like to have these hardkeys assigned automatically in some way ? Maybe it should be possible to drag'n'drop a complete product to a subpage, and it will then assign the Hardkeys that maches in name to the specific hardkeys ? And then just assign all commands for that product which is NOT a known hardkey as softkeys ?
Exactly yes.
Let's say You have LG TV, AppleTV and Beocenter 2 as devices and You want to set within Your "Wachting AppleTV" action some Adjustments to Your TV using the Arrow Keys. In order to programm this, the user assigns a soft key (i.e. "TV Functions") and in Your app, create a Softkey called so, and by pressing this, the Hard Keys would Focus on TV. In Your app, a Button on the left Handside called "Assign to.." and a dropdown box, which shows LG TV, AppleTV and Beocenter2 (These are created before, so they are known to Your app), so You can choose TV and all the Hardkeys would be programmed to control appropriate TV Functions. And toggling the softkey "TV Functions" would change the focus (in this case) between LG TV and AppleTV.
Another idea could be almost the same, but "TV Functions" could be a subpage with all Softkeys and Hardkeys could be set to TV and returning back to main page would toggle back to AppleTV.
(Sorry for the bad explanation, english is not my main language and I don't use google translator )
tecnicus: Hi Weebyx, Weebyx:But if i understand you correct, you would like to have these hardkeys assigned automatically in some way ? Maybe it should be possible to drag'n'drop a complete product to a subpage, and it will then assign the Hardkeys that maches in name to the specific hardkeys ? And then just assign all commands for that product which is NOT a known hardkey as softkeys ? Exactly yes. Let's say You have LG TV, AppleTV and Beocenter 2 as devices and You want to set within Your "Wachting AppleTV" action some Adjustments to Your TV using the Arrow Keys. In order to programm this, the user assigns a soft key (i.e. "TV Functions") and in Your app, create a Softkey called so, and by pressing this, the Hard Keys would Focus on TV. In Your app, a Button on the left Handside called "Assign to.." and a dropdown box, which shows LG TV, AppleTV and Beocenter2 (These are created before, so they are known to Your app), so You can choose TV and all the Hardkeys would be programmed to control appropriate TV Functions. And toggling the softkey "TV Functions" would change the focus (in this case) between LG TV and AppleTV. Another idea could be almost the same, but "TV Functions" could be a subpage with all Softkeys and Hardkeys could be set to TV and returning back to main page would toggle back to AppleTV. (Sorry for the bad explanation, english is not my main language and I don't use google translator )
I think that the solution with
"Another idea could be almost the same, but "TV Functions" could be a subpage with all Softkeys and Hardkeys could be set to TV and returning back to main page would toggle back to AppleTV."
Is the correct way of doing it, I will take a look at it in the next release :)
If you have any other great ideas, feel free to contact me :) And your english is fine...
And it is now available for download on the AppStore :) Just search for Beo5...
Please try it out and contact me if you have any questions or issues.. DON'T buy the upgrade unless you have tested your configuration first.
Configure the remote and try the XML that is generated from the free version to see if it does what you need. If it works, then buy the Pro version :)
/Weebyx
Beofan53:The idea is great Weebyx. Just downloaded the app on my iPad. A userguide would be very helpfull. Can you put this on your site or give us a link? I am looking forward to try this with 3rd party products. You have to make an account? What do I get? Please let me/us know how to use the app. The video is also very helpfull and gives a good impression of the possibilities.
Just downloaded the app on my iPad. A userguide would be very helpfull. Can you put this on your site or give us a link?
I am looking forward to try this with 3rd party products.
You have to make an account? What do I get?
Please let me/us know how to use the app. The video is also very helpfull and gives a good impression of the possibilities.
The "How To" section on my site (http://www.rungwald.dk) contains a lot of help about to use the App, a complete and big userguide is not available, but I am in the progress og creating some more videos showing how to do some of the things in the App.. And I will also keep updating the site with more and better help and info as I get feedback from users..
The reason it requires a User Account to download and upload products, is simply, that I have more faith and trust in people, who are willing to create an account, to also be more serious about using the App to create valid and tested products, and upload them to the server...
But, I do not verify the email or send you spam mails if thats what you think... The account is also used so it is only the person who create and upload a product that later can edit that product. That way people cannot "break" other peoples products....
I have another question; which steps do I have to do in order to import RC sequences to the App and make it usable? Assuming:
1. Learn the RC commands via ipaq
2. Save it as a file and Convert it via xml Converter
3. Send this converted File to ipad (via Mail)
4. Import it to the app and use it for the configuration.
Right?
tecnicus: Hi Weebyx, I have another question; which steps do I have to do in order to import RC sequences to the App and make it usable? Assuming: 1. Learn the RC commands via ipaq 2. Save it as a file and Convert it via xml Converter 3. Send this converted File to ipad (via Mail) 4. Import it to the app and use it for the configuration. Right? tec
These are the steps you need to follow.
1. Learn each command via ipaq and save the Pronto code for each command somewhere.
2. Create a TPF file on your computer with pronto codes. Take a look under examples->the TPF file->TPF File with Pronto, there is also a complete example
3. Send the newly created TPF file to the iPad via mail
4.Open the mail with the TPF file and tap on the TPF file, and select "Open in Beo5/6....."
5.Import the product
6.Configure the remote
I installed Your app yesterday. Took a first look and I think its really good. I'm waiting for my ipaq for learning the 3rd party codes.
I have three questions;
1. I can't find how to program the Volume Wheel and the right button on the Border of the screen.
2. How Do I get the BMP Files for TV and Radio Stations to the app?
3. Would be good to import XML files for PUC (3rd party Controlling for B&O devices). Depending on what the purpose is, It might be good to get the Standard Configuration for known B&O devices into the app. This would make the app simpler to use.
1. The volume wheel is a "bit tricky".
To program the "Volume Down/Mute" wheel action, you need to tap or drag command between the "rewind" button and "left arrow".
To program the "Volume Up" wheel action, you need to tap or drag command between the "ffwd" button and "right arrow".
You can take a look at my video to see how it works..
2. The App does not support images as of now
3. I'm not sure it is a good idea to import PUC files. The App is not ment to be a substitute for the B&O tool, and I don't want to support a full configuration. The B&O devices(PUC) things is configured using the standard tool. If you can give me a great example of why you need this, I will take into consideration :)
Weebyx:1. The volume wheel is a "bit tricky".
-Ok. Will try to do this.
Weebyx:2. The App does not support images as of now
- That would be great, if it could do this in the future. I think it's very nice and usable.
Weebyx:3. I'm not sure it is a good idea to import PUC files. The App is not ment to be a substitute for the B&O tool, and I don't want to support a full configuration.
- That's what I meant by saying "upon the purpose". If the tool will be used for (almost) only for 3rd party devices, so it's ok, but in a mixed environment (especially with a B&O TV) the things are getting more complicated. When I put the TV Code for the Samsung TV, I was impressed how easy it is to put the Buttons to the remote. But it is getting complicated to put a B&O device to the Config; You have to create a new button, rename it and then assign several macros to the button. But perhaps I'm on the wrong way to do this.
- another idea could be to preconfigure it on B&O tool and import the configuration to the app and then make some "finetuning" there and export it back to the Config tool.(Might be hard to program this, I think..)
Yes, well the App is designed with ThirdParty control in mind.. So configuring of B&O products should be done in the B&O config tool afterwards.
But... if you are talking about people having a B&O television that doesnt support PUC/or has the PUC codes, then yes... This App could be a bit better yes...
Is this what you are talking about ? A B&O tv and thirdparty products ?
I've sent a message to You, hope it's ok so.
I am going to have a play later. I currently use my Beo5 with LG TV, Bose Cinemate, Beosound 8, Beolit 12, Lutron Lights (some non B&O compatible), I used to control various other lamps using non B&O kit which worked well.
Beosound 8, Beotime, Beocom 4, Beo 5, Lutron Rania, MacBook 15" (Mid 2015), iPad Pro, iPhone 6S, B&O Play H3, Beolit 12, Form 2, A8 Headphones, B&O Play A1, B&O Essence
Hello Weebyx,
can you make a Version of the Beo5 Configurator for the Iphone (5) ?
Hi weebx. I have downloaded your app what a brilliant idea. I would like tone able to press say watch sky and that will turn on Panasonic tv and sky box. I understand this is exactly what sort of thing you designed the app for. I would also like just a sky button underneath the watch sky button (preferably the sky logo) which will give controll of just sky box.
i would also like to be able to press watch DVD and it will change tv source turn on beocentre2 and turn the a aux on the beosound 9000 and also dim my lutron lights and unidims.
i have had a play around with it and I can add zones and then create and edit macros with the b and o stuff just struggling with the Panasonic and sky. I have added the Panasonic that's already there however it still isn't coming up in the edit macros. I hope that makes sense.
also how can I add sky tv to that list? I hear people mention an Ipaq. What is this? Does it grab say i r codes? Can beo5 controll rf? I have rf lights also in my house made by light wave rf if I could controll them somehow that would be super.
Thank you in advance david
sonyy: Hello Weebyx, can you make a Version of the Beo5 Configurator for the Iphone (5) ?
Hi Sonyy
No, I really dont think that would make sense since the screen is so small..
2012martin: Hi weebx. I have downloaded your app what a brilliant idea. I would like tone able to press say watch sky and that will turn on Panasonic tv and sky box. I understand this is exactly what sort of thing you designed the app for. I would also like just a sky button underneath the watch sky button (preferably the sky logo) which will give controll of just sky box. i would also like to be able to press watch DVD and it will change tv source turn on beocentre2 and turn the a aux on the beosound 9000 and also dim my lutron lights and unidims. i have had a play around with it and I can add zones and then create and edit macros with the b and o stuff just struggling with the Panasonic and sky. I have added the Panasonic that's already there however it still isn't coming up in the edit macros. I hope that makes sense. also how can I add sky tv to that list? I hear people mention an Ipaq. What is this? Does it grab say i r codes? Can beo5 controll rf? I have rf lights also in my house made by light wave rf if I could controll them somehow that would be super. Thank you in advance david
Hi 2012Martin
Yes, the "Watch TV" that turns on your Tv and skybox, and then switches to a screen so you can control the SKY box, is exactly what i created the app for..
Did you see the video i have created on youtube ? This shows how to use the App, and how to add commands and son on to macro's and screen. In the video I show how I created the "Watch TV" for my own Samsung TV and my KISS IPTV box.. You can find the video on http://www.rungwald.dk and the "About the App"
What model of SKY box do you use? if I have the codes for it, I can create the file for that model and upload it to the server for you.
Just to let you all know... I have created a Facebook page called "Beo5/6 Thirdparty Configurator"...
This page will be used to talk about the App and also with information on future releases and so on..
Just an update :)
The App is now in its version 1.3.0, and there are actually a lot of people using the App around the world now...
The biggest change in version 1.3.0 is, that it now can import existing ThirdParty XML files into the App, this makes it much easier to go from the "notepad version" of creating your XML files, and to the nice and easy "App version" :)
You can follow the progres and changes on the facebook page here
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beo56-Thirdparty-Configurator/358494650935604
StUrrock:Jacob & Keith, belated thanks for this great tool, purchase price is well worth the money!! BTW how's about a PUC file generator :)
BTW how's about a PUC file generator :)
I don't think a PUC generator is in my pipeline, but the next version 1.7 will be able to import PUC files (*.dec) directly for creating products... More and more people are using my tool, and they seem happy about it... :)
So all in all, I am very pleased beeing able to help other people getting more out of their Beo5/Beo6 :)
The latest version is 1.6.1 and it also now supports IOS7...
/Jacob
Hello Jacob,
I just started to use the app, version 1.9.3.
How can I import the puc for the telekom media receiver 3.03 and 1.02. Or do you have already the xml for the receivers?
The import of the xml-files by e-mail (googlemail) doesn't show me the possibility "open with beo5/6...). What could be the reason?
Thanks for your help.
Greetings
Andreas