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Full isf calibration beovision 10-40

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koning Posted: Mon, Apr 1 2013 2:43 PM

Is it possible to do a full isf calibration for the beovision 10-40?

 

 

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koning replied on Tue, Apr 2 2013 6:31 PM

No koning,


B&O only offers limited picture tools for a ISF calibration. You can change some things form the service menu that will help you achieve 6500 Kelvin and a better gamma curve but I don't think any ISF approved calibrators would offer an ISF calibration for BeoVision 10 as they simply lack the tools in the TV.


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koning replied on Tue, Apr 2 2013 6:31 PM

Thx koning

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Wasn't this already do e in the factory? I'd like to see the difference between my 10 and an 11 with its "movie" setting.

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koning replied on Tue, Apr 2 2013 6:53 PM

I've  been told that they do no full isf calibration in the factory.

the movie setting is 6500k i think.

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They simlpy don't do 6500K calibrations as for the reason the achieved picture isn't liked by everyone.

B&O uses a panel consisting a number of people which chooses the image they like. As far as I can remember that's how they have done it in the past.

For instance, some people like more saturation of colours then others.

But with the tools, you can calibrate the panel if you want. The only thing is to discover what every setting is called in the menu and what is does.

But then again the service documentation can be a helping hand with that.

I've measured a BV10-46 and the average temperture I measured was far above the 10K (somewhere between 11-13K)

I've done some calibration with my BV5 some time ago as the panel/screen will change after a period of using.  (And with my BV6, but didn't like the result)

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So on the video advert for the 10 when they say they calibrate every TV, does that mean it is just set to B&O's settings? Whats that machine they plonk on the screen?

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Correct, they set the panel to their settings.

Every (mean also other brand) panel has different settings to achieve the same picture. That's why you can't simply copy settings from another panel into every same type of panel.

What machine? You mean probably the "eye" that measures the panel. That  eye measures the amount of red, green and blue. The primary colours and secondairy colours. If one of these colours isn't set correctly, then the whole image doesn't show the correct colours.  

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Just picked  an image from internet and used Paint to comment.

 

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Raeuber replied on Tue, Apr 2 2013 8:44 PM
Beobuddy:

Correct, they set the panel to their settings.

Every (mean also other brand) panel has different settings to achieve the same picture. That's why you can't simply copy settings from another panel into every same type of panel.

What machine? You mean probably the "eye" that measures the panel. That eye measures the amount of red, green and blue. The primary colours and secondairy colours. If one of these colours isn't set correctly, then the whole image doesn't show the correct colours.

But who sets the panel to their settings if a faulty panel has to be replaced? I assume the technician of the dealer is not able to do this properly!

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The grey triangle is the reference. The white triangle is the measured one from a random panel.

You can see that if you have to much green, red or blue, al the colours in the triangle are infuenced (and thus displayed on the screen).

If you can achieve to set the right amount of blue, red and green. Only then you will get the required 6500K White point.

For the one who's asking "what's the deal with 6500K". In the film industry, 6500K is the used as reference. Like studio audiomonitors are used in sound studios for flat reproducing of the recorded material.

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@ Räuber.

 

That's correct.

But when a panel is replaced, like the plasma from a BV4/5 or 9, the new panel is already measured in the factory. At the back of each panel there is a label with numbers/settings, which has to set in the servicemenu.

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