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Hi all!
Since a new Beovision is currently not within my budget, I have been looking for a second hand BV5 which are now, 8-10 years old, only about double the price of a new ordinary Samsung or similar which is within my reach. I would like some advice before shopping:
1. Is the picture quality very different between Mk 1, 2 and 3 ?
2. On the Mk3 there is a DVI port which means I would be able to connect a new (black) Apple TV through a HDMI -> DVI cable but no sound, am I right? How do I connect this to work properly with sound?
3. Since the DVI port on the BV5 is the only digital interface, is there a smart and convenient way to use that for several units with HDMI, some kind of smart switch that can be controlled via BEO4 in a PUC or a Lintronic setup?
Any experiences, advice, tips and tricks are welcome! :)
/Peter
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My advice: let go of that BV5-wish!
Think different, buy a V1.
Greetings Millemissen
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Hi Millemissen,
Thanks for your advice! I was exited about the arrival of the new V1, since it has a fairly reasonable price. Now it even is ML compatible if I am correct ( which is a must for me..) But, it doesnt have a motorized stand ....and...sorry to say...it is really ugly (IMHO). It really doesnt match my BL8000 and BL6000 which my BV3-32 does perfectly and I think a BV5 would do also..
Here in the Nordics, you can buy a second hand BV5 for around 1000 Euros, which is very reasonable, but maybe the technology is too old to bother to get one.. After all, I have Apple TV and a HD Cable TV box I want to attach to it..
Maybe a new, stylish and reasonable priced Beovision is just around the corner?
Greetings,
/P
As much as i loathe it, the technology on the V1 will be better than the 5 regardless of how much it originally cost. I had a 6-22 but could not connect any of my appliances to it with HDMI. I tried work arounds but they never really cut the mustard.
DVI madness....
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Thanks for the input, Guys!
Maybe its just wiser to wait a bit...prices will not get higher for sure and lots of interesting new things coming soon probably both from B&O and..maybe Apple..
An affordable Surround hub to connect B&O gear to any TV would be on top of my wish list...
npalund:An affordable Surround hub to connect B&O gear to any TV would be on top of my wish list... Greetings,/P---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beovision 3-32, Beovision AV9000, Beovision AV5, Beolab 8000, 6000, 5000, 3000, Beocenter 2300, 9000, DVD1, DVD2, Beogram 3300
Hi Beofan53
That sounds exactly like a device I need in that case…( since I can't afford the new Bv11, which would have been perfect..)
Any ideas when it will be released?
npalund:Hi Millemissen, Thanks for your advice! I was exited about the arrival of the new V1, since it has a fairly reasonable price. Now it even is ML compatible if I am correct ( which is a must for me..) But, it doesnt have a motorized stand ....and...sorry to say...it is really ugly (IMHO). It really doesnt match my BL8000 and BL6000 which my BV3-32 does perfectly and I think a BV5 would do also.. Here in the Nordics, you can buy a second hand BV5 for around 1000 Euros, which is very reasonable, but maybe the technology is too old to bother to get one.. After all, I have Apple TV and a HD Cable TV box I want to attach to it.. Maybe a new, stylish and reasonable priced Beovision is just around the corner? Greetings, /P ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beovision 3-32, Beovision AV9000, Beovision AV5, Beolab 8000, 6000, 5000, 3000, Beocenter 2300, 9000, DVD1, DVD2, Beogram 3300
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If you like your BV3,buy a bv5.I have had a hd version from new and the picture and sound is still good,dont bother with a v1,its maybe got better connectins etc but so has most supermarket tvs.
The bv5 has proper b&o design and quality,unlike the cheap looking v1.look at my lounge set-up with my bl8000s,still looks good today as it did 10 years ago.I still think the b&o crt and plasma still produce fantastic natural pictures.
The bv3 you have is not hd and can still compete with alot of lcds picture wise and is in a different league soundwise.I have many b&o tvs inc a bv7-40 mk6 and still prefer the bv5 for atching day to day tv.
up to you
suum cuique pulchrum est
Beofan53: npalund: An affordable Surround hub to connect B&O gear to any TV would be on top of my wish list... Greetings, /P ------------ Beolab 14 (or whatever they will call it) exists of a surround hub with speakers. Perhaps the hub (or surround amplifier) will be sold seperately so you can setup your own surroundsystem. More info will soon come from B&O. Should be connected to any TV or non-b&o brand system. Let's wait and see.
npalund: An affordable Surround hub to connect B&O gear to any TV would be on top of my wish list... Greetings, /P ------------
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Beolab 14 (or whatever they will call it) exists of a surround hub with speakers. Perhaps the hub (or surround amplifier) will be sold seperately so you can setup your own surroundsystem. More info will soon come from B&O. Should be connected to any TV or non-b&o brand system. Let's wait and see.
The BeoLab14 will come May this year. It will be a complete setup with BL's - so don't expect some kind of "hub (or surround amplifier)" to be sold seperately.
That would - in fact - make no sense, and force you to have several different remotes on your desk.
Besides, there are lots of good 'surround pre-amps' out there for your existing BL's - if you want to go down that route.
If one doesn't like the V1, just wait for the new tv coming later this year!
Well, I agree with you all, since you all have good points.. which does'nt make any decision easier!
However, regarding the design of the V1, I suppose we all have different taste. I think it's bold of B&O to make a design that different and just like when BMW hired Chris Bangle, some people loved his designs and some people just hated them, but at least it made a statement.. something new and different.Regarding the V1 I really tried to love the design and I think it would work in any of my other rooms, but not as a main TV in my living room. Maybe I am oldschool, but I am still hooked on sleek elegant design in glass and aluminium.. but that's me..
I am prepared to pay twice as much, or even 3-4 times as much as an average plastic LED tv costs. But not 10 times as much, that is the case with some of the new top-of-the-line TV's B&O recently released. That's why I am looking at the second hand market. Even if it is tempting to get a really good Philips or Panasonic with a large screen and use my lintronic setup to control it and hide away a lot of preamps, surround-decoders and whatnot...That is not the way I want to go.. thats why I started buying B&O in the first place. To have it all connected, using one remote, and top class sound and picture and a design so stunning, minimalistic and elegant, that it looks good also when its not in use..
For a 1000 Euros, a BV5 is, to be honest, impossibly outdated. Even if a 50 year old luxury car has it's charm ( to use Michael's phrase) it can be terribly annoying in modern, everyday life even if the performance per se is great. And I already have an AV9000 and an AV5, and I don't plan to open a museum. Maybe a BV9 could be an option, if I can find one cheap enough...but then we are almost up on the same price as the BV11-40..and then again, it's already old..
I think I will continue to enjoy the brilliant picture, fantastic sound and stunning design on my BV3-32 a little longer until something new and exciting is released. I guess there are a lot of potential customers like me, that already has a lot of B&O but want to update without spending too much.
Meanwhile I am waiting, I'll just move my chair a little closer to the screen so it will not look that small.
Cheers,