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With or without a kind of sound processor?
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Would be nice to have a kind of Beo System 3 lite included. ;-)
BeoBoy68:Approximative price for the system - 4.000 euros. Enjoy ! :-))
Quite a lot of cash for satellites, even if the subwoofer looks quite powerful.
I'm confused about the colours. Although I think the addition of colours is a fantastic idea, why oh why can't B&O produce other fret options for the BV11 (and BV10)? Why isn't there a green, a yellow, a brown, an orange? You can get them for the A8 and A9, now for the BL14, but not your TV!
At least two separate people have asked me if B&O produce a green fret - like the green frets on my Beosound 8 - for my BV11.
I like the idea of a green BL14, but I want it to match up with the same fret on the BV11.
Don't expect too much. The Beolab 12 designed specifically for the flat screen range of TV's come in white or silver.
The flat screens TV's they are designed for come in black and silver
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Chris Townsend: The flat screens TV's come in black and silver
The flat screens TV's come in black and silver
Very good point! Actually, I wouldn't mind BL12s in black! Or grey. White? No.
I am agree. It looks like a very conventional 5.1 system at least in concept. I hope that the design is much more innovative.
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Hi. Has anybody any idea what this will look like? I cannot find any pictures. Thanks
No one really knows how the BL14 will be!
There are a couple of 'leaked' pictures showing a central unit with the subwoofer and the electronic/amps in the shape of a BL9 ( you might say) and 4 alternatively 5 round satelites in different coulours.
It comes in 2 different versions BL14.4 and BL14.5.
The 14.4 is for a BV - and the 14.5 is for a non-BV.
i suppose the 'electronic' also includes a surround-decoder - anything else would make no sense.
How it must be connected to the BV alternatively to a non-B&O-tv is at the moment not known.
But I am sure "someone" will know before the launch - otherweise we will have to wait for the 15. of May.
It will be different from what we are used to - and is maybe not at alll aimed at the 'hardcore B&O-users"
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There is a tv - and there is a BV
Veermer:I am agree. It looks like a very conventional 5.1 system at least in concept. I hope that the design is much more innovative.
Tonker:From what I hear most dealers are asked for a one box home theatre system all the time.
BeoNet84, I absolutely agree!
BeoNet84: If this is true, I feel it is another mistake from B&O! I think, people want a one box solution. The processor should be in the sub, with 5 HDMI's, and 2 or 3 digital audio ins and one HDMI out.
If this is true, I feel it is another mistake from B&O! I think, people want a one box solution. The processor should be in the sub, with 5 HDMI's, and 2 or 3 digital audio ins and one HDMI out.
And, as I said, not particularly cheap for non-B&O TV owners. So B&O are suggesting you take your £1500 Samsung TV, buy some £3500 B&O surround speakers and then an amplifier on top to control them? :)
If the surround sound speakers are 2x or 3x the cost of the TV, my guess is that there won't be too many non-B&O users falling over themselves to get a speaker set for the plastic TV. Indeed, most people I know don't spend £1000 on a TV these days!
moxxey:[ And, as I said, not particularly cheap for non-B&O TV owners. So B&O are suggesting you take your £1500 Samsung TV, buy some £3500 B&O surround speakers and then an amplifier on top to control them? :) If the surround sound speakers are 2x or 3x the cost of the TV, my guess is that there won't be too many non-B&O users falling over themselves to get a speaker set for the plastic TV. Indeed, most people I know don't spend £1000 on a TV these days!
I think you would be surprised how many people spend 3k upwards on surround speakers. Back in the day when me and the Mrs bought our first house it cost £80k, we earned somewhere around £30k between us, first thing we bought was a 36" Toshiba CRT for £1100, and a set of mission sspeakers for 2.5k, and Onkyo Amp for £700. Mast of my mates spend much more on the speakers than they do on a TV.
People will invest in a decent surround system as speakers will typically outlive the TV. I am sure there are plenty of new B&O customer who will buy into this, and plenty of ex customers who had TVs in the past but now can't justify B&O proces, who could be tempted to add this to the Panasonic, samsung etc they bought instead of a BV7.
rednik: I think you would be surprised how many people spend 3k upwards on surround speakers.
I think you would be surprised how many people spend 3k upwards on surround speakers.
We'll see :) I can't name a single person who has spent £3K on speakers. No-one, and I work for a large magazine publisher. I'm not saying people don't spend decent money on speakers, but never more than about £1K. People just do not have cash for £3K surround speakers these days. Not your average consumer, anyhow.
moxxey:We'll see :) I can't name a single person who has spent £3K on speakers. No-one, and I work for a large magazine publisher. I'm not saying people don't spend decent money on speakers, but never more than about £1K. People just do not have cash for £3K surround speakers these days. Not your average consumer, anyhow.
And we get back to square #1 of every new product thread on Beoworld... when was B&O targeted to "your average consumer"? As far as I know, buying new B&O kit was never a civil right, but required some sizeable income or long saving.
(Square #2: Avant jada jada... )
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tournedos:And we get back to square #1 of every new product thread on Beoworld... when was B&O targeted to "your average consumer"? As far as I know, buying new B&O kit was never a civil right, but required some sizeable income or long saving. (Square #2: Avant jada jada... ) --mika
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tournedos: And we get back to square #1 of every new product thread on Beoworld... when was B&O targeted to "your average consumer"? As far as I know, buying new B&O kit was never a civil right, but required some sizeable income or long saving.
Hey, it's just a point following on from someone who said that there's a version which will be released at non-B&O users. Problem is, most non-B&O TV customers do not pay more than about £1K for their TV.
Ironically B&O are trying their best to appeal to average consumers by concentrating on their BeoPlay brand. They need to get more customers in to the stores, buying product.
moxxey: Ironically B&O are trying their best to appeal to average consumers by concentrating on their BeoPlay brand.
Ironically B&O are trying their best to appeal to average consumers by concentrating on their BeoPlay brand.
From the Beoplay web page:
"Marrying the values of PLAY with the substance, quality and luxury of Bang & Olufsen characterizes what we stand for:Bang & Olufsen + PLAY = B&O PLAY"
From a couple of Beoplay press releases:
The BL14.4 will be a product for a BV-tv.
Since the surrounddecoder is already inside a BV-tv, the BL14.5 must be different (and more expensive).
Both will have amps for the sub/satelites, just like the BL15 - which means an ICEPower-module (in the base/sub) and satelites as passive speakers, but matching the amps - I suppose.
The exactly specs and the design is still a secret!
The BL14 will be launched in London May 15th - and will be presented in the stores as well.
The launch will be followed/supported by several different events - 6 short film about the concept, online and on Discovery Channel and TLC and much more.
A special 5.1-remix of the soundtrack from 'Les Misérables' on Bluray has been made in cooperation with Universal. The dics will be a gift for BL14-buyers.
It could be an idea for Beoworld for the monthly Prize Draw 🎉
By the way: the BV14 is a Bang & Olufsen product!
In what price catagory must we think (BV14)
A BV14? - first must come the BV13 (or?)
As for the BL14 - I haven't got the slightest idea 💰
Greetings MM
Razlaw:. Nothing in B and O's descriptions of Beoplay suggests that the target market is the "average" consumer. LUXURY and PREMIUM are not words to describe average.
The products are available on the high street and Apple Stores. Where average consumers shop. They send primarily BeoPlay press releases to our consumer tech magazines. I can see the target audience for myself. I don't need you to point it out to me.
moxxey:The products are available on the high street and Apple Stores. Where average consumers shop. They send primarily BeoPlay press releases to our consumer tech magazines. I can see the target audience for myself. I don't need you to point it out to me.
Razlaw:So I can believe you or B and O as to who their target audience is?
Of course B&O wants to target a broader range with PLAY, but they are not going to write "Average Product for Average People" as a slogan on their web site, are they!
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Modern marketing speak of:
"affluent early-mainstream"
"Urban Creative Professionals"
Greetings MM🐯