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In case you missed the latest Audi commercial featuring the two Spocks and a cameo appearance of the spiffy B&O communication center, have a look and enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkByAkAdZs
Jeff
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Looks like this was first time ever he tries to put that bag in mercedes?
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I will never ever buy an Audi. Here in France people who buy Audis always buy them black, drive far far over the speed limits and I just hate the spirit altogether. When one looks for B&O stuff in classifieds there are always tons of spurious Audi ads and I hate that too.
Perhaps it's different elsewhere.
Jacques
A rather amusing article about Audi drivers which sums up how most people who do not drive an Audi feel:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/audis-still-britains-favourite-car-to-have-driving-right-up-your-***-201204245156
This has indeed been my experience. Sad.
I admit to admiring the technology though, having had the opportunity to drive an A8.
Hi
Great article
"Land Rover Freelander was judged too high to properly appreciate the driver’s panic when required to brake suddenly." Very funny.
I reminber the face of an audi TT driver on the motorway years ago.Panic is the good word.
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chartz: I will never ever buy an Audi. Here in France people who buy Audis always buy them black, drive far far over the speed limits and I just hate the spirit altogether. When one looks for B&O stuff in classifieds there are always tons of spurious Audi ads and I hate that too. Perhaps it's different elsewhere.
Hi Jacques,
Your assessment, although the drift this is going was NOT my intension, is spot on.
What I wanted to share was a bit of clever comedy along with the really COOL B&O sound system which just “pops up.”
However ill advised I am just going to plunge into the deep end and you guys can do with this information what you choose.
I owned an automobile enthusiast’s business for nearly a decade and with the parking lot in plain view we could see what our customers drove…… generally they would bring their favourite car AND almost without exception you could tell the customer’s personality type by what they drove.
Audi drivers fit in well with the Porsche set, perfectionists, rigid, and yes they drove very fast. However both Audi and Porsche owners took excellent care of their cars as opposed to the Mercedes-Benz owner who cared more what they looked like IN the car.
The list goes on and on, but this is not a car forum. I will say that Mustang owners were very “regular” people vs. Camero owners who were a little “different.”
We hosted a car show for several years and it was just a hoot. The French car clubs would group together, fly the French flag, and serve wine and cheese, while the German clubs looked ready for war, well battle at least.
The Saab and Volvo clubs by far had the most fun; these were easy going people of whom about half would have horned-helmets on.
Anyway, now that we have bashed Audi, did anyone notice the B&O sound system? I drive a 14 year old car with a radio/CD player, so this B&O system rather blew my socks off!
Of course Jeff.
I for one would love to have such a hifi equipment in my 16-year-old Opel Omega... whose speakers badly need a re-foam job!
Here in Denmark AUDI is like "the poor mans Mercedes," but still a very expensive car.Denmark has the highest registration taxes in the world, so generally not many people can afford to even buy an AUDI A4.Mostly Danes buy Peugeots, Toyotas, Kias, Suzukis and Chevrolet New Generation (the dull European built ones).
In Denmark an AUDI A4 easily cost 100.000€, same goes for Volvo's. A fully configures Volvo S40 like I have, though mine is far from fully configured, costs 130.000€ here.
So though you can create stereotypes around cars and their respective owners, there're generally not that many owners to choose from, when you look beyond the boring cars:)
Something as extravagant as an AUDI A8 or Mercedes S-Class only get a couple of sales in their entire model lifespan, the rest are imported from Germany when they've reached a certain age.
For the record, the registration in Denmark is like this, the initial 100kDKK is taxed by 100%, everything above is taxed by 180%, plus you pay 25% VAT of the price. So a car that from factory costs 100kDKK, ends up costing 250kDKK before it has plates. A car that costs 1mDKK ends up costing 1.000.000 * 1,25 + (100.000 * 1) + (1,125.000 * 1,8) = 3.600.000DKK.
If it's a motorcycle, the 180% is 200% instead.
You see my point?;)
Cheers, Mikkel:)
But hey, we shouldn't complain, at least we "only" pay 69% income tax on everything above 4,500€/mo
chartz: Of course Jeff. I for one would love to have such a hifi equipment in my 16-year-old Opel Omega... whose speakers badly need a re-foam job!
Well I frankly admit that I am quite impressed with the old Ford stereo in my car. I did have to replace one speaker, which is no longer available, but once acquired, the four speaker system sounds remarkably concert hall quality.
Most people would not go to the trouble to replace a 14 year old car’s speaker with an OM speaker, but though the car is an “appliance” I am a car aficionado. The dealer has never commented, but I rather suspect that they are stunned that everything still works on the car: electric windows, door locks, powered sunroof, AC, and of course the radio.
Pop the hood and the engine looks like a six month old car and that’s the truth.
Mikkel Petersen: Here in Denmark AUDI is like "the poor mans Mercedes," but still a very expensive car.Denmark has the highest registration taxes in the world, so generally not many people can afford to even buy an AUDI A4.Mostly Danes buy Peugeots, Toyotas, Kias, Suzukis and Chevrolet New Generation (the dull European built ones). In Denmark an AUDI A4 easily cost 100.000€, same goes for Volvo's. A fully configures Volvo S40 like I have, though mine is far from fully configured, costs 130.000€ here. So though you can create stereotypes around cars and their respective owners, there're generally not that many owners to choose from, when you look beyond the boring cars:) Something as extravagant as an AUDI A8 or Mercedes S-Class only get a couple of sales in their entire model lifespan, the rest are imported from Germany when they've reached a certain age. For the record, the registration in Denmark is like this, the initial 100kDKK is taxed by 100%, everything above is taxed by 180%, plus you pay 25% VAT of the price. So a car that from factory costs 100kDKK, ends up costing 250kDKK before it has plates. A car that costs 1mDKK ends up costing 1.000.000 * 1,25 + (100.000 * 1) + (1,125.000 * 1,8) = 3.600.000DKK. If it's a motorcycle, the 180% is 200% instead. You see my point?;) Cheers, Mikkel:)
Hello Mikkel,
Wow, and I thought Washington State was bad. I come from Florida where a license plate for a new Rolls-Royce cost about $30, so when I registered my cars in Washington State I was shocked that it cost from $400 to about $1,200 depending on the price of the car. And as I had all older collector cars, the state told me what it would cost for the license plate/registration and that was NOT open to discussion.
Here in British Columbia sales tax comes to 12% but Denmark is in a league by itself!
Mikkel Petersen: Here in Denmark AUDI is like "the poor mans Mercedes," but still a very expensive car.Denmark has the highest registration taxes in the world, so generally not many people can afford to even buy an AUDI A4.Mostly Danes buy Peugeots, Toyotas, Kias, Suzukis and Chevrolet New Generation (the dull European built ones). In Denmark an AUDI A4 easily cost 100.000€, same goes for Volvo's. A fully configures Volvo S40 like I have, though mine is far from fully configured, costs 130.000€ here.
I have been watching the Danish political drama "Borgen" and I was surprised to see the Prime Minister being chauffeured in an upmarket VW ... now I know why
BeoNut since '75
Yup, we're quite something here;)
The worst part about it all, is since we have high taxes, people need to make more before tax, making our companies the least competitive for exporting. So often when you for instance look at the price of Danish timber, versus German timber. The German company might be 30% cheaper than the Danish, but the German company still make 25% more, due to a German uneducated worker costing only 2/3 of a Danish, plus usually having larger volume:/
We have almost no production left in Denmark, and more or less live solely of niche products such as, medical instruments, pharmaceuticals, stage lighting, measuring instruments, wind mills, software development. The rest of the workforce are pretty much making their money on cutting each others hair, so to speak.
In fact in Denmark there're roughly three times as many government employees as private sector employees, and at the same time we have one of the smallest defense budgets in the world, with very few career soldiers employed. In fact a single US Aircraft Carrier have more planes on board than the total number of aeroplanes in the Royal Danish Air Force and the Royal Danish Navy combined.
Room for thought...
The ironic thing here is actually, that government vehicles are tax and VAT free, since you'd effectively just be moving money around the same pit
Mikkel Petersen: Yup, we're quite something here;) The worst part about it all, is since we have high taxes, people need to make more before tax, making our companies the least competitive for exporting. So often when you for instance look at the price of Danish timber, versus German timber. The German company might be 30% cheaper than the Danish, but the German company still make 25% more, due to a German uneducated worker costing only 2/3 of a Danish, plus usually having larger volume:/ We have almost no production left in Denmark, and more or less live solely of niche products such as, medical instruments, pharmaceuticals, stage lighting, measuring instruments, wind mills, software development. The rest of the workforce are pretty much making their money on cutting each others hair, so to speak. In fact in Denmark there're roughly three times as many government employees as private sector employees, and at the same time we have one of the smallest defense budgets in the world, with very few career soldiers employed. In fact a single US Aircraft Carrier have more planes on board than the total number of aeroplanes in the Royal Danish Air Force and the Royal Danish Navy combined. Room for thought...
The incredibly high Danish tax rate unquestionably affects exports; however look the world over and you will find that manufacturing has largely left the western world for China, Malaysia, Viet Nam, India, Bangladesh, etc. The high taxes only makes an unsustainable situation worse.
In regard to the sensible Danish military budget consider the US military budget which exceeds the next seven largest military budgets COMBINED! Got that? You add up the second largest military budget, the third, through the seventh and the US spends MORE!
Take the Abrams tank that the US spent a half billion dollars developing a new version that cost $436,000,000….. and for equipment that the Army doesn’t want or need.
Numbers and I are not friends; however the jest of what I said is correct. So folks, high taxes notwithstanding, I believe Denmark has got it right.
Well I guess I'm the only BeoTrekkie on the forum. The commercial is brilliant! May it (and he) 'Live Long and Prosper'. 'Saw Shatner in person at a Barnes & Noble book signing event a few years ago. It's still a thrill.
MediaBobNY: Well I guess I'm the only BeoTrekkie on the forum. The commercial is brilliant! May it (and he) 'Live Long and Prosper'. 'Saw Shatner in person at a Barnes & Noble book signing event a few years ago. It's still a thrill.
Not to worry Bob, you ain’t the only Trekkie at BeoWorld. I loved the original series, never missed it, AND the movies that followed.
Personally I thought the whole Audi commercial was clever as heck, extremely well done down to the extended golf club that wouldn’t fit into the Mercedes-Benz trunk.
The end with the Vulcan death grip was excruciatingly well done. Bravo!
Jeff, Agreed. The original series still airs on cable here (Me-TV). And in case you couldn't figure out why he was singing that ditty in the car, here's a video of him singing it back in the 1960's.
I like the TT driving off on its own at the end
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I am a fan of the original serial too. The first time I saw it was 40 years ago...
J.J. Abrams really improved the concept though.
MediaBobNY: Jeff, Agreed. The original series still airs on cable here (Me-TV). And in case you couldn't figure out why he was singing that ditty in the car, here's a video of him singing it back in the 1960's.
Hi Bob,
I had NO idea why Leonard was singing that particular song, now I know and feel truly enlightened. Thank you! I was the perfect age for the original series, but would have been a bit too old to have enjoyed the Hobbit piece.
This bit of information only makes the commercial all the more clever! Well done Bob!
chartz: I am a fan of the original serial too. The first time I saw it was 40 years ago... J.J. Abrams really improved the concept though.
Hi Jacque,
Yes indeed Jeff Abrams did a masterful job in keeping the life and spirit of this series together….. while adding just a bit of spice to keep us interested and entertained.
Yet I especially liked the work of Harve Bennett who produced II, III, and IV, the first being directed by Nicholas Meyer and the remainder by Leonard Nimoy. These eighties movies maintained the humor that was the trademark of the original series….. Kirk referring to the Enterprise in San Francisco, “Don’t forget where we parked.” I wonder how many retakes it took to say that line with a straight face?
Perhaps there's a gag reel of the old Star Trek episodes somewhere... but I'm not holding my breath.
Piaf: Mikkel Petersen: Yup, we're quite something here;) The worst part about it all, is since we have high taxes, people need to make more before tax, making our companies the least competitive for exporting. So often when you for instance look at the price of Danish timber, versus German timber. The German company might be 30% cheaper than the Danish, but the German company still make 25% more, due to a German uneducated worker costing only 2/3 of a Danish, plus usually having larger volume:/ We have almost no production left in Denmark, and more or less live solely of niche products such as, medical instruments, pharmaceuticals, stage lighting, measuring instruments, wind mills, software development. The rest of the workforce are pretty much making their money on cutting each others hair, so to speak. In fact in Denmark there're roughly three times as many government employees as private sector employees, and at the same time we have one of the smallest defense budgets in the world, with very few career soldiers employed. In fact a single US Aircraft Carrier have more planes on board than the total number of aeroplanes in the Royal Danish Air Force and the Royal Danish Navy combined. Room for thought... The incredibly high Danish tax rate unquestionably affects exports; however look the world over and you will find that manufacturing has largely left the western world for China, Malaysia, Viet Nam, India, Bangladesh, etc. The high taxes only makes an unsustainable situation worse. In regard to the sensible Danish military budget consider the US military budget which exceeds the next seven largest military budgets COMBINED! Got that? You add up the second largest military budget, the third, through the seventh and the US spends MORE! Take the Abrams tank that the US spent a half billion dollars developing a new version that cost $436,000,000….. and for equipment that the Army doesn’t want or need. Numbers and I are not friends; however the jest of what I said is correct. So folks, high taxes notwithstanding, I believe Denmark has got it right. Jeff
Well. I didn't really try to say it necessarily was a bad thing our defense budget is small, just stating that isn't what we spend the majory of our tax money on. The biggest single post there is actually people on public pension and unemployed people, and I think that's just wrong. In Denmark we actually have more people, who are capable of working, not working, than we have people working in the private sector. Why? Well, because they can get away with it, tell the doctor a sad story, get him to write a statement, handle that to the social worker assigned you, and badabim, you don't have to work, but still get paid almost just as much as people who hold low income jobs, like working the local grocery store.Actually in most of Copenhagen at least 40% of all sales personnel don't speak Danish, but Swedish, because they bother to take the trip over the bridge from Sweden, to work in Denmark, but Danes won't take these jobs.
Can you honestly say you think that is sensible? I sure don't think so. Not to say there's nothing great about the Danish system, but it definately has it's flaws, some greaer than others.
Makes a lot more sense now, though can't fathom why he would sing aout a Tolkien character to begin with:P
Mikkel Petersen: Piaf: Mikkel Petersen: Yup, we're quite something here;) The worst part about it all, is since we have high taxes, people need to make more before tax, making our companies the least competitive for exporting. So often when you for instance look at the price of Danish timber, versus German timber. The German company might be 30% cheaper than the Danish, but the German company still make 25% more, due to a German uneducated worker costing only 2/3 of a Danish, plus usually having larger volume:/ We have almost no production left in Denmark, and more or less live solely of niche products such as, medical instruments, pharmaceuticals, stage lighting, measuring instruments, wind mills, software development. The rest of the workforce are pretty much making their money on cutting each others hair, so to speak. In fact in Denmark there're roughly three times as many government employees as private sector employees, and at the same time we have one of the smallest defense budgets in the world, with very few career soldiers employed. In fact a single US Aircraft Carrier have more planes on board than the total number of aeroplanes in the Royal Danish Air Force and the Royal Danish Navy combined. Room for thought... The incredibly high Danish tax rate unquestionably affects exports; however look the world over and you will find that manufacturing has largely left the western world for China, Malaysia, Viet Nam, India, Bangladesh, etc. The high taxes only makes an unsustainable situation worse. In regard to the sensible Danish military budget consider the US military budget which exceeds the next seven largest military budgets COMBINED! Got that? You add up the second largest military budget, the third, through the seventh and the US spends MORE! Take the Abrams tank that the US spent a half billion dollars developing a new version that cost $436,000,000….. and for equipment that the Army doesn’t want or need. Numbers and I are not friends; however the jest of what I said is correct. So folks, high taxes notwithstanding, I believe Denmark has got it right. Jeff Well. I didn't really try to say it necessarily was a bad thing our defense budget is small, just stating that isn't what we spend the majory of our tax money on. The biggest single post there is actually people on public pension and unemployed people, and I think that's just wrong. In Denmark we actually have more people, who are capable of working, not working, than we have people working in the private sector. Why? Well, because they can get away with it, tell the doctor a sad story, get him to write a statement, handle that to the social worker assigned you, and badabim, you don't have to work, but still get paid almost just as much as people who hold low income jobs, like working the local grocery store.Actually in most of Copenhagen at least 40% of all sales personnel don't speak Danish, but Swedish, because they bother to take the trip over the bridge from Sweden, to work in Denmark, but Danes won't take these jobs. Can you honestly say you think that is sensible? I sure don't think so. Not to say there's nothing great about the Danish system, but it definately has it's flaws, some greaer than others.
Hi Mikkel,
Well undeserving people collecting money doesn't sit well with me as it places an unnecessary burden on the rest of us.
I can tell you this by contrast that DOESN’T happen either in Canada or the United States. No sir, in spite of the talk that it does.
Piaf:Hi Mikkel, Well undeserving people collecting money doesn't sit well with me as it places an unnecessary burden on the rest of us. I can tell you this by contrast that DOESN’T happen either in Canada or the United States. No sir, in spite of the talk that it does. Jeff
Mikkel,
I was referring to the fact that the Canadian government is extra careful when giving out money. I have no doubt that there is some successful cheating going on, there always will be, but it is small.