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Hello Peter and Svend fans.
I have a few questions regarding BV 11 and Apple Tv.
Today with my BV 10, I use (with Beo 4) "TV" button to get DVB-HD, "DTV" button to get cable Tv set top box and "DVD" button to get PS3 (via RE-BL).
If I remember correctly, when installing BV 11 at my parents place, the technician said that "DTV" button was for smart TV only, so we put "V.MEM" button for cable Tv set top box.
First question, can you really not change "DTV" button with BV 11 to get set top box instead of smart Tv ? My wife is used to switch on Tv with "DTV".
Second question, if you have "TV" for DVB-HD, "DTV" for smart media, "V.MEM" for set top box, "DVD" for PS3, what will it be for Apple Tv with BV 11 ?
Do you have to do "list" "V.AUX" for example ?
Fird question related to Apple Tv I never used before, do you have access to the Itunes radios and if so, is the sound experience good on BV 11 without extra speakers ?
Thanks by advance for your answers.
Gregory
Hi there, I have BV11 with Apple TV built in and have only been able to access Apple TV using the 'source list' which is a little untidy. I like the Apple Radio function through the BV11, but prefer to set it through my Lab9 instead. I think if your room isn't too big the speakers on the BV11 will be OK, but always nicer with proper placed audio speakers.
As an idea though, if you have the BV11 on a network, I find the BeoRemote application very good and you can then easily get the Apple TV going with the iPad.
BeoGreg:Thanks. What "source" is your Apple Tv on the beo4 ?
What "source" is your Apple Tv on the beo4 ?
Mine is configured for "PC".
BeoGreg: First question, can you really not change "DTV" button with BV 11 to get set top box instead of smart Tv ? My wife is used to switch on Tv with "DTV".
You are able to assign any "real button" or "list command button" to any source of a BV 11 / V1 freely.
To use "DTV" for a HDMI input, you'll have to set the command for "Webmedia" from default "DTV" to an other command available on your Beo4 and in the TV (or to none).
As far as I know there is just one exception - if the HDD option is installed "V.MEM" is reserved for the internal HDD.
I prefer to use the directly accessable "real" buttons "TV" "DTV" "V.MEM" and "DVD" for those sources I'm using the most,
Alternatively, if you want to adress sources "by their name" you are able to "ADD" to the "List" of a recent BEO4 commands like "APPLETV" , "H.MEDIA", "W.MEDIA", ...
Vienna:You are able to assign any "real button" or "list command button" to any source of a BV 11 / V1 freely. To use "DTV" for a HDMI input, you'll have to set the default command for "Webmedia" from "DTV" to an other command available on your Beo4 and in the TV (or to none).
"You are able to assign any "real button" or "list command button" to any source of a BV 11 / V1 freely"
That - in fact - is one of the great features of the BV11/V1
Greetings Millemissen
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen:" You are able to assign any "real button" or "list command button" to any source of a BV 11 / V1 freely" That - in fact - is one of the great features of the BV11/V1 Greetings Millemissen
Hi Ed,
Only if you have the 'same source' - in your case the DTV on your tv - you would have to use the 'link command' before choosing your Sky from downstair.
BUT.....the V1 and your system (with the Sky) downstairs aren't linked together (I suppose), so the 'link command' would not have any effect on the V1 anyway.
(In 'the old days' you would have masterlinked the stereo/sound and transported the monosound/video through the coax/antenna cable parallel for this)
In which Option is your BL3500???
Why do you want to hear the sound from your Sky in the linkroom speaker?
I do nor have the possibility to test it - YOU have!
Please tell us if it worked like you want it to - might help someone else in the same situation.
Have a look here:
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/da/customer-service/product-support/sound/loudspeakers/beolab-3500
See Page 22.
Put your BS3500 in Option 5.
Are you saying that you want to watch Sky on the V1 and simultaneously hear the sound from the Sky dowwnstairs?
I am not sure that will work proper due to sync problems.
I am not sure if a change of Option will help in your combination!
Please try it out and let us know the results.
IMO it isn't that clumsy pressing 'link' before 'DTV' - but if you think so...
You could even move 'link' to the first place in 'list'.
And one more question: why isn't the picture from Sky "fantastic" on the V1???
Dear BeoHut,
That is what I could have answered hours ago....
...but I suppose that Eddy doesn't want to spend that money on his 'hobby'.
We will in the next months see a lot of questions on this subject - in some cases there might be a workaround!
As you will know finding a workaround always involves a great deal of insight and experience.
The guys in Struer have done a very good job creating the NL/ML-converter (and the syncbox).
However most people won't (or can't) pay for this IMO perfect solution.
Millemissen:Dear BeoHut, That is what I could have answered hours ago.... ...but I suppose that Eddy doesn't want to spend that money on his 'hobby'. We will in the next months see a lot of questions on this subject - in some cases there might be a workaround! As you will know finding a workaround always involves a great deal of insight and experience. The guys in Struer have done a very good job creating the NL/ML-converter (and the syncbox). However most people won't (or can't) pay for this IMO perfect solution. Greetings Millemissen
Hi BeoHut,
sorry to say it, but please do not teach me about NL/ML/MCL
I was only trying to give Eddy a few hints for his setup, knowing that he would not invest a lot of money for the sake of watching Sky in his upstairs room.
If one wants to give an advice it is a prerequisite that you know how a system is configured. Espescially after the above post, I don't quite see how Eddy's components are connected to each other.
"The picture from the tv downstairs somehow by using the BL3500 ends up in the V1" - if someone could explain HOW that is possible, it would be a lot easier to give an advice.
Therefore in this case my advice to Eddy was to use the command: 'link-dtv' - which really isn't too much efford In my opinion!
Hi Beohut and Millemissen,
I will try and explain a little better about my system although as it was installed by a dealer please bear in mind that I don't have all the information. In the living room downstairs I have a Beovision 7-32, a Beosound/Beomaster 5 and 4 x beolab 6000's. In the bedroom I have a BL3500 and a V1-40, and in the kitchen there is also a BL3500. I am able to watch sky on the V1 from downstairs, to do this I press list-link-dtv (the V1 is switched to analogue,channel 800). I have seen a piece of equipment called an RF Link, I assume this is used somewhere in the system as B&O did some work in the loft, but we definitely don't have a NL/ML converter. Whilst watching sky this way I turn the volume down on the BL3500 to avoid sound delay issues. As I mentioned previously the picture isn't great but it is ok for a link room.
My first post in this thread (and apologies for hi-jacking it!) was simply to try and learn a little more,and to possibly refine the controls on the Beo4 (if possible). It isn't too much trouble to press list-link-dtv, but if the option of removing any of those steps where there I would take it! As far as I am aware the installation was pretty straight forward (for B&O) and was the same as at our old house ( the link tv here was a Samsung though) so it hadn't occurred to me that it would cause confusion about my set up when I asked, so apologies for that.
Thanks again for your input guys,
Eddy.
eddie1lancs: I am able to watch sky on the V1 from downstairs, to do this I press list-link-dtv (the V1 is switched to analogue,channel 800
Just to confirm my hypothesis ....
:
you firstly switch the V1 on and tuned to the analogue channel 800,
and then you press list-link-dtv - which the V1 ignores
if the V1 is off, and you press list-link-dtv then V1 stays off, you get no picture, but you do get the sound via the 3500
are these correct ?
BeoNut since '75
Fundamental question relating to the original question.
if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV?
Streaming from a Mac/ iPad and downloading films from iTunes??? Maybe I am not a typical BV11 owner, but I never see any urgency in watching the latest films. I am happy to wait for a film to appear on a TV channel or I want a physical Blu Ray disc or DVD.
Graham
vikinger: Fundamental question relating to the original question. if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV? Streaming from a Mac/ iPad and downloading films from iTunes??? Maybe I am not a typical BV11 owner, but I never see any urgency in watching the latest films. I am happy to wait for a film to appear on a TV channel or I want a physical Blu Ray disc or DVD. Graham
Well, I'm not waiting for a movie (+ commercials) to appear on a TV channel. I'm happy to see it when it's released. Neither do I want to buy a physical disc to watch a movie just once.
Is that how you define a typical BV11 owner?
eddie1lancs: My first post in this thread (and apologies for hi-jacking it!) was simply to try and learn a little more,and to possibly refine the controls on the Beo4 (if possible). It isn't too much trouble to press list-link-dtv, but if the option of removing any of those steps where there I would take it!
My first post in this thread (and apologies for hi-jacking it!) was simply to try and learn a little more,and to possibly refine the controls on the Beo4 (if possible). It isn't too much trouble to press list-link-dtv, but if the option of removing any of those steps where there I would take it!
If your Beo4's software is a minimum of 5.0 you can make it a 'link remote' and save having to press List/Link every time you command something - in effect it will automatically add the LINK command to any other button presses. Follow this procedure:
Standby + List together
Press List till CONFIG appears
Enter 2002 - the display should read LINK ON
Press Exit
This remote will now only work a Link Tv. To reset to a normal remote repeat the process.
I hope this helps!
elephant: eddie1lancs: I am able to watch sky on the V1 from downstairs, to do this I press list-link-dtv (the V1 is switched to analogue,channel 800 Just to confirm my hypothesis .... : you firstly switch the V1 on and tuned to the analogue channel 800, and then you press list-link-dtv - which the V1 ignores : if the V1 is off, and you press list-link-dtv then V1 stays off, you get no picture, but you do get the sound via the 3500 : are these correct ?
In fact I supposed that it had been done this way - but did not expect a B&O dealer to make such an installation.
That will work - yes, it will work, but not well.
Eddy is not 'interested' in the linked sound with the BL3500 - (in this case) he only uses the BL3500 for controlling the MasterLinked tv downstairs.
The V1 is showing the choosen channel from the BV7 modulated onto the coax antenna cable (with sound in mono quality of cource).
I once had a similar setup with an Active Link and a MX1500 in a linkroom showing the satchannels from my main tv - only in those day we had no problems with sounddelay!
My advice - again - stick to the LINK-DTV command and put LINK in the first place of LIST on the Beo4.
Some day maybe Eddy will get Sky direct on the V1 - and so explore the full potential of this nice tv.
Hi Guy,
changing the remote to a Link-Remote would mean that he needs 2 remotes in that room!
No need for 2 remotes. If you have a beo4 configured as Link-Remote, a (list) Link-command +source will "unlink" the source. It kinda puts your beo4 in reverse.
DoubleU: vikinger: Fundamental question relating to the original question. if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV? Streaming from a Mac/ iPad and downloading films from iTunes??? Maybe I am not a typical BV11 owner, but I never see any urgency in watching the latest films. I am happy to wait for a film to appear on a TV channel or I want a physical Blu Ray disc or DVD. Graham Well, I'm not waiting for a movie (+ commercials) to appear on a TV channel. I'm happy to see it when it's released. Neither do I want to buy a physical disc to watch a movie just once. Is that how you define a typical BV11 owner?
I was just commenting on my own attitude and trying to understand the advantage of an Apple TV, if any. It looks like a low ish cost device but with high download film costs and a need to subscribe for audio streaming from other computers/ devices. Am I missing something?
vikinger: DoubleU: vikinger: Fundamental question relating to the original question. if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV? Streaming from a Mac/ iPad and downloading films from iTunes??? Maybe I am not a typical BV11 owner, but I never see any urgency in watching the latest films. I am happy to wait for a film to appear on a TV channel or I want a physical Blu Ray disc or DVD. Graham Well, I'm not waiting for a movie (+ commercials) to appear on a TV channel. I'm happy to see it when it's released. Neither do I want to buy a physical disc to watch a movie just once. Is that how you define a typical BV11 owner? I was just commenting on my own attitude and trying to understand the advantage of an Apple TV, if any. It looks like a low ish cost device but with high download film costs and a need to subscribe for audio streaming from other computers/ devices. Am I missing something?
No.
Ban boring signatures!
vikinger:I was just commenting on my own attitude and trying to understand the advantage of an Apple TV, if any. It looks like a low ish cost device but with high download film costs and a need to subscribe for audio streaming from other computers/ devices. Am I missing something?
Very valid question, IMHO. I can (barely) understand how some people need to see stuff at once. I, however, am quite content with public TV now showing films and series I didn't pay to see three years ago. In three years, they will be showing the films and series I didn't pay to see today, and a lot more I won't have time to watch anyway. In my own opinion, I'm well ahead of the game...
--mika
vikinger: Fundamental question relating to the original question. if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV? Graham
seeing this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5lZnLIS_8&feature=youtu.be
Airplayed to your big BV11 screen
Grrr! Millemissen
vikinger: I was just commenting on my own attitude and trying to understand the advantage of an Apple TV, if any. It looks like a low ish cost device but with high download film costs and a need to subscribe for audio streaming from other computers/ devices. Am I missing something?
I hear you, Graham. You (and Puncher) probably won’t miss anything. But some have different priorities. I like to edit and manage my photo’s in Aperture and sync it to iTunes. That is where an AppleTV comes in play. I also jailbreaked it to add XBMC, so it becomes a mature mediaplayer that will accept all videoformats from my NAS. I allready watched thousands of hours watching video via my Apple TV. (big fan of TV-series) So for me it’s a great device.
DoubleU: No need for 2 remotes. If you have a beo4 configured as Link-Remote, a (list) Link-command +source will "unlink" the source. It kinda puts your beo4 in reverse.
That's very useful to know - thanks!
tournedos: vikinger:I was just commenting on my own attitude and trying to understand the advantage of an Apple TV, if any. It looks like a low ish cost device but with high download film costs and a need to subscribe for audio streaming from other computers/ devices. Am I missing something? Very valid question, IMHO. I can (barely) understand how some people need to see stuff at once. I, however, am quite content with public TV now showing films and series I didn't pay to see three years ago. In three years, they will be showing the films and series I didn't pay to see today, and a lot more I won't have time to watch anyway. In my own opinion, I'm well ahead of the game...
we have an old scarf based Foxtel with an entry level subscription, so for us the advantages are:
time shifting - we watch when we want to watch, not when the programmers schedule
5.1 sound support
access to a broader catalogue of movies
streaming our music library
streaming pictures of our grandson
some use of "apps" like youtube and vimeo
Guy: DoubleU: No need for 2 remotes. If you have a beo4 configured as Link-Remote, a (list) Link-command +source will "unlink" the source. It kinda puts your beo4 in reverse. That's very useful to know - thanks!
Maybe am getting this wrong!
if you need "a (list) Link-command +source to "unlink" the source", when using the Remote with the 2 systems, you might as well use the Remote as you are doing now - pressing 'Link-Source', whenever you need it.
Isn't this 'problem' a luxuary problem after all?
Greetings MM
Off course it is. I was just commenting on the fact you said 2 remotes were needed. Which isn't..
vikinguk:Fundamental question relating to the original question. if you have a BV11, just what do you gain by adding Apple TV?
I reckon I won't use Apple tv everyday but at 100 €...