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I have a beolab 2 in my system so take it if beolab 14 purchased it would be surplus to requirements and couldn't be used in the systemmalcolm
Difficult to understand your question...
But.. I guess you can't combine BL2 with BL14...
Karel.
HI
If you use an A/V receiver with a non b&o tv, you can use 2 subwoofer, I think/
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olvisab: HI If you use an A/V receiver with a non b&o tv, you can use 2 subwoofer, I think/
Yeah.. OK.. but by would you use 2 different subs?
I already read on this forum that some use 2 beolabs 2 rather than one.
Easier when you use the same sub but I don't think it is efficient with 2 different type.
olvisab: I already read on this forum that some use 2 beolabs 2 rather than one.
Using 2 Subs absolutely makes sensea) in very large rooms, both front / effect channel b) if you configure one of them as front/effect channel and the other to support small surround / rear speakers
Now I understand the question. No, a BL2 would not work with the BL14-system. At least not good since they are very different. It is possible of course to split a powerlink so that you can use two speakers at the same time but since they are completely different the sound would be strange and impossible to adjust to one of the speakers. Perhaps if you connect the BL2 to one port on your BV11/V1 and select that and connect a BL14 sub to another port. I think the smart sound system will then just select the BL2 to output bass to and NOT the BL14-sub. I am not completely sure how the system in theese systems work when two identical or different speakers in the same area (subwoofers) are connected but I think it will just output the signal to one of them.
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kuyttendaele: olvisab: HI If you use an A/V receiver with a non b&o tv, you can use 2 subwoofer, I think/ Yeah.. OK.. but by would you use 2 different subs?
I can't think why you'd want two different subs, as in two models, but two subs have a lot of advantages. With two you can position them so that they smooth out the standing waves in the room and deliver smoother, less lumpy bass response. Adding a sub to a system is never as easy as it looks to get maximum performance, particularly where you have to decide on xover freq and such, as in matching a different branded sub to a set of speakers. Where to crossover? What slope? Phase? Room position? Level? Lots of variables.
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kuyttendaele: Difficult to understand your question... But.. I guess you can't combine BL2 with BL14... Karel.
Hi Karel,
The simple answer is "Yes, you can" (although it may not be ideal!)......
Beolab 2 and Beolab 14 Subwoofer both contain amplifiers and bass management software, so they can be used separately or together as the core of a stereo or surround sound setup. The key difference is that Beolab 2 has Powerlink (non-amplified) outputs for satellite speakers, whereas Beolab 14 Subwoofer has separate power amplifiers to drive a full set of 4 or 5 passive satellite speakers.
I've already provided a range of different cables for B&O stores to use their Beolab 14 systems in some interesting applications prior to the official launch last night. Whilst the intended application is as a stand-alone 4.1 or 5.1 system with a TV, I've provided cables to use this with a Yamaha RX-V773 receiver via the preout sockets, as well as DIN to RJ45 cables to allow Beolab 14 to act as the second subwoofer, surrounds and rear surrounds alongside a Beolab 2 and a pair of Beolab 9's with a Beovision 7-55 3D and a few other setups as well.
Beolab 14 can be used with Beolab 2 to give a twin subwoofer setup, although I would normally suggest using two matched subs in this case. The main benefit of this is that this type of arrangement is that it helps stores to demonstrate the great flexibility of these superb new speakers.
Other options include linking non-B&O passive centre speakers to the centre output of the Beolab 14 subwoofer alongside the Beolab 14 fronts and rears, or using Beovox ceiling speakers with the Beolab 14 subwoofer.
I've also developed separate attenuators to allow the amplified outputs of a conventional power amp to be connected to Beolab 14, or a 3-way splitter cable to give "double stereo" through the Beolab 14 system directly from the headphone socket of a non-B&O TV. These will be appearing on my website in the next few days as I get around to listing all of the new combinations of cable......
If you need any help or ideas for using or connecting Beolab 14, please feel free to ask!
Kind regards, Steve.
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Hi Steve!
Is the cable between the sub and the satellite a standard power link cable, in a 4:1 setup with a B&O tv?
Assume there is no need for mains feed to the satellites.
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Hi Hiort,
No, the cables from the Beolab 14 subwoofer to the front and rear speakers are passive speaker cables using a special connector at the subwoofer end, as the amplifier is in the subwoofer module.
I keep an upgraded version of this cable in stock with oxygen free copper wiring to allow for longer cable runs if required.
New video clip from BL14 launch in London:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/03vpbc7npsjs1r5/finished%20B%26O%20video.mp4?n=86829318
Greetings MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I'm not in the market for a BL14 system, but I really like the styling and concept, and feel it is a great step for B&O, as it will hopefully increase their business, which has to be a win win for everyone really.
One point of interest, is that on the technical detail I've thus read, the satellites appear to have only the one driver, described as a 'mid/treble'.
If that is the case, then there is not likely to be any passive crossover in them, as it's not needed for a single driver situation, and hence even with a long lead running to them from the BL14 sub + internal amps, the crossover will be done in DSP in the Sub/amp module, and thus the operation of the satellites will actually be active, even though the amps are not onboard the satellites per se.
That would be my understanding of it
Has anyone any technical information to confirm that?
KInd regards
John...
Just heard them once again - with my own FLAC-music (Speaker 2) as well as with the Avatar bluray movie (Speaker 5). I am still impressed with what you get for the money! Greetings MM
Just heard them once again - with my own FLAC-music (Speaker 2) as well as with the Avatar bluray movie (Speaker 5).
I am still impressed with what you get for the money!
John: One point of interest, is that on the technical detail I've thus read, the satellites appear to have only the one driver, described as a 'mid/treble'. If that is the case, then there is not likely to be any passive crossover in them, as it's not needed for a single driver situation, and hence even with a long lead running to them from the BL14 sub + internal amps, the crossover will be done in DSP in the Sub/amp module, and thus the operation of the satellites will actually be active, even though the amps are not onboard the satellites per se. That would be my understanding of it Has anyone any technical information to confirm that?
... confirmed
http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/444/55460.aspx#55460
05-14-2013 --- picture.
Greets MM