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I think that the new prices are fair (or OK) even though I bought my BS5 some years ago at the old price.
You do get a very good music system with nice features built in.
It only miss the option to use a smartphone as a remote, but who knows, this might come once.
alijiang:Thanks. I am waiting for a new beosound 5 With hdmi output for video
Or with a Bluray ripper and a 50 tb SSD 👻
GRRR! MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I think you might be waiting a while. My dealer claims the Encore is on the way out. Besides, I don't think any company can legally produce a device with a controllable interface that would enable you to manage ripped Blu-ray movies.
The UK copyright law was updated recently to allow end users to backup/store/rip CDs. It didn't cover any media which was encrypted, such as a Blu-ray. It's still illegal to rip/backup/make a copy of a Blu-ry movie. Therefore B&O wouldn't be able to produce a device which would present a way of browsing your Blu-ray movies and playing the content via your TV. They'd either have to start their own movie streaming service or latch on to another existing service.
moxxey: alijiang:Thanks. I am waiting for a new beosound 5 With hdmi output for video I think you might be waiting a while. My dealer claims the Encore is on the way out. Besides, I don't think any company can legally produce a device with a controllable interface that would enable you to manage ripped Blu-ray movies. The UK copyright law was updated recently to allow end users to backup/store/rip CDs. It didn't cover any media which was encrypted, such as a Blu-ray. It's still illegal to rip/backup/make a copy of a Blu-ry movie. Therefore B&O wouldn't be able to produce a device which would present a way of browsing your Blu-ray movies and playing the content via your TV. They'd either have to start their own movie streaming service or latch on to another existing service.
On the way out leaving the regular BS5 or they're both on the way out? My closest dealer claims that despite the BS5E costing half as much now here in the US he still sells way more of the BS5s. I don't need Masterlinking capabilities and like the straight plug in features of the BS5E so I've been keeping my eye out for one. Missed one that went for 2k and was still under warranty here recently on Ebay. Oh well.
hi Moxxey,
my post was an example of danish sense of humour 👻👻
Greetings Millemissen
Hi,
There is an APP for both Iphone and Ipad as a remote for Beosound 5. You find it in Itunes-store. Search for Creation 5.
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Beosound 5 has today a DVI-output. You can connect a DVI-HDMI-converter and then you have almost the same as HDMI-output Video. You must of course connect a SPDIF (RCA) also to get sound. HDMI-output will not change the performance in picture or sound-quality. It is just a "SIMPLIER" way to connect the picture and sound (with one cable instead of two cables).
/Martin
Martin: Beosound 5 has today a DVI-output. You can connect a DVI-HDMI-converter and then you have almost the same as HDMI-output Video. You must of course connect a SPDIF (RCA) also to get sound. HDMI-output will not change the performance in picture or sound-quality. It is just a "SIMPLIER" way to connect the picture and sound (with one cable instead of two cables). /Martin
That is correct, I am using DVI->HDMI and SPDIF, this is connected to my BV7 and it works very well. And it supports 1080p (but that is very small, so I use 720p).And, even though you are able to play different movie formats from the BM5, then dont do it, BM5 is designed for music (and Photo), nothing more. And it does this very well.
Millemissen: my post was an example of danish sense of humour 👻👻
Wait. Danes have a sense of humour? :)
Dealer says only the Encore. BeoSound 5 will continue as normal. He might be wrong, but he's not pro-actively promoting or even stocking Encore's, going forward.
moxxey: The UK copyright law was updated recently to allow end users to backup/store/rip CDs. It didn't cover any media which was encrypted, such as a Blu-ray. It's still illegal to rip/backup/make a copy of a Blu-ry movie. Therefore B&O wouldn't be able to produce a device which would present a way of browsing your Blu-ray movies and playing the content via your TV. They'd either have to start their own movie streaming service or latch on to another existing service.
Quite right Moxxey, Kaleidescape in the USA have got around the problem it seems by allowing users to purchase and directly load BluRays direct to their system, from a Kaleidescape run store.
They tell me that this service will soon be available in the UK.
Can't see B&O running this type of service.
I don't know how Kaleidescape manage this thing, but if (I wrote 'if') Bang & Olufsen ever should come up with a similar solution, this would have to be a 'worldwide solution', for all markets.
As Cinavia is getting more and more present on discs and bluray players, I see no chance that we will ever see a bluray ripper from B&O.
Note: Any Bluray player licenced after 2-12-2012 must have Cinavia implemented, and it often comes creeping in with a firmware update.
See this the link below for bluray and DVD Servers
http://www.kaleidescape.com/
Apologies, failed to see others has posted details on this company.
I will add its an amazing system and has price to go with it.
Millemissen:Or with a Bluray ripper and a 50 tb SSD 👻 GRRR! MM
BeoNut since '75
So the Encore is now about 2000 euro?
Nice with a reduction in price.
Makes me wonder though, was the initial price too high then? It seems like B&O are stepping down a bit from it's ivory tower, and getting more sensible with the approach to customers they had back in the 90-ties and earlier.
Too long to list....
BillC:I've been waiting for B&O to launch a media player for a long time. Copyright is less of an issue now that most bluray comes in multiple format including digital copies and the launch of UltraViolet.
It's very much an issue. You can't rip Blu-ray's legally. If B&O support UltraViolet, it sort of defeats the object a little (and is a technology I never use). It's also a reason why the likes of Apple avoided including a Blu-ray drive in their Macs.
There are a lot of licensing issues with Blu-ray, you'd be very surprised. When Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt', he wasn't wrong. There's so much red tape involved with Blu-ray mastering, production, license payments and, of course, storing content from a Blu-ray. It's not an area I can expect B&O ever to get in to - besides, most people are in agreement that future of digital media is not DVD/Blu-ray, it's streamed content. Why would B&O want to turn the Encore in to a streaming movie player, when others are doing it so much better?
I guarantee you, it's not going to happen.
moxxey:There are a lot of licensing issues with Blu-ray, you'd be very surprised. When Jobs said it was a 'bag of hurt', he wasn't wrong.
I somehow wonder if all other companies feel the same of Apple's authoring requirements and licensing (aka profit 'sharing') that they employ?
All these companies are all the same: wanting a slice of the pie.
I wonder if B&O would really launch a media player - i mean your computer rips your dvds to your ipad, etc, so likely you'd just use that to plug in to the TV; and if not, its probably on a network drive; and there are streaming services.
I ripped all my DVDs to my NAS and use a DF Solutions base to play them back
http://dfsolutions.co.uk/
I have an older one and it works well, it has a ripping function directly on the system but will only rip on protected disks (so have to use the computer to get round this). And I have been told that they were working with B&O to get a PUC added.
Getting little bit off topic here.
BS5/BM5 is a music system, not a video system, and it will never be a video system. Others are better at that.
Michael: I somehow wonder if all other companies feel the same of Apple's authoring requirements and licensing (aka profit 'sharing') that they employ?
That question is for Apple. Our point is whether B&O will move in to producing a fully-fledged media player (whoever they license this content from). We all want a B&O media player - I agree an Encore that manages both audio and video would be superb - but I don't believe it will happen.
If the 'smart media' apps in the BV11 are anything to base an opinion, it's not an area where B&O excel.
Michael: i mean your computer rips your dvds to your ipad, etc
i mean your computer rips your dvds to your ipad, etc
And as I said above, this is, effectively, illegal (whatever you use to rip movies). B&O wouldn't be able to produce a legal interface to control ripped content, encouraging customers to circumvent the encryption on a Blu-ray.
B&O won't produce a media manager to control ripped DVDs. I don't think they'll bother with streaming services, simply as others are doing it better (and as I said above, if the BV11 'smart media' apps are anything to base an opinion, it's not an area where B&O excels). There's a good reason why B&O decided to make space for an Apple TV in the BV11.