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Connect BeoMaster 1500 to phono

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Ittai
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Ittai Posted: Thu, May 30 2013 10:27 AM

Dear all,

 

I have an old BeoMaster 1500 center (receiver) which is working fairly well.

 

I'm trying to connect it to a Garrad record player which has RCA phono output.

To do this, I purchased a RCA-to-DIN cable (5 pin) and connected it to Beogram "phono input".

the result is that I get no sound. 

do you think this is a fault with the beogram or am I missing something?

Does it have an internal phono-stage?

 

PS 

Should mention that "FM RADIO" from Beogram 1500 plays well, so it is an issue with phono input only.

 

Thanks,

Ittai 

 

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Ittai replied on Thu, May 30 2013 10:28 AM

Hi,

 

Should mention that "FM RADIO" from Beogram 1500 plays well, so it is an issue with phono input only.

 

Ittai

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Dillen replied on Thu, May 30 2013 11:27 AM

Welcome to Beoworld !

Most likely is that the adapter uses the wrong pins in the DIN plug.
The 5-pin DIN has four signal pins and a ground. Two are left/right playback, the other two are left/right record.
The tape socket uses all four.
The phono socket only the playback pins (since it cannot record).
If your adapter connects to the record pins (making the adapter a DIN-to-RCA rather than a RCA-to-DIN), you
will effectively be connecting one output to another output and the result is silence.

Martin

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Ittai replied on Thu, May 30 2013 11:43 AM

Hi,

 

Thanks.

 

So how do I know which pins are the live ones for PHONO input?

Knowing that - I can rewire the cable.

 

If it works - I'll purchase a dedicated the correct cable. How should it be called then?

Is the name "RCA to DIN phono" ?

 

Ittai 

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Dillen replied on Thu, May 30 2013 11:53 AM

The Phono input should be using pins 3 and 5 (and the center pin 2 is ground).
If your adapter connects to pins 1 and 4, you will have to move those two leads to pins 3 and 5.

Ideally, the adapter should also provide an external (protective-) grounding lead to fit onto a screw on the Beocenter chassis.

Martin

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Ittai replied on Thu, May 30 2013 11:58 AM

Thanks.

will test and update on forum.

 

Many thanks.

Ittai 

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Ittai replied on Thu, May 30 2013 12:26 PM

Martin hi,

 

Just checking before soldering.

so according to this schematic:

http://www.google.co.il/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hilmanind.com/images/din5m.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.hilmanind.com/pinouts/din5s.htm&h=268&w=290&sz=7&tbnid=SE0KoSj-1GK_cM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=97&zoom=1&usg=__E-irGlqR2LmQTLuuUFVXifPTWko=&docid=oKrGFPDX1G1DBM&sa=X&ei=gTanUa-CD-mQiQePkYCYDQ&ved=0CDcQ9QEwAg&dur=436

Measured on the cable I'm using:

Pin 1 --> RCA right '+' tip

Pin 4--> RCA left '+' tip

Pin 2 --> RCA left and right ground

Pin 3 and 5 --> disconnected

 

How should I configure it then?

 

Ittai

 

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Dillen replied on Thu, May 30 2013 1:15 PM

Move the lead from pin 1 to pin 3
Move the lead from pin 4 to pin 5

If you get a signal drowned in hum, introduce an external grounding lead frmo the metal chassis
of the turntable to the metal chassis of the Beocenter.

Martin

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Ittai replied on Sun, Jun 2 2013 9:59 AM

Hi,

 

Thanks. Still working on this one.

Let me ask a general qurestion regarding the BEOGRAM1500 itself.

It is a ~30 years old unit, do you recommend re capping it or bias adjustments?

 

I see 2 electrolytic caps on main power supply and one electrolytic cap on amplifier PCB.... Look very old...

 

Rocko

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Dillen replied on Sun, Jun 2 2013 12:56 PM

I suppose you mean Beomaster 1500 ?
In that case, yes.

It's very common to see the trimmers lose contact and occasionally fall apart physically, due to aging and/or oxidation.
It's also safe to say that most of the electrolytic capacitors will also benefit from replacing.
If your Beomaster is still working you may not experience a huge difference but it will be much better
prepared and ready for the next 25-30 years.

Martin

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Ittai replied on Sun, Jun 2 2013 1:06 PM

Hi,

 

Phono input is now operative thanks.

Beomaster sounds great thanks for the "support".

 

;-)

 

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