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This plug was fitted to a Beomaster 7000 that I picked up a couple of days ago as part of a complete 7000 system. The CD and the Beogram plugs were not much better, I wonder what the Beocord will be like??
It was in use, in the sellers home.
Regards Graham
My god. But it has a fuse!
Johan: My god. But it has a fuse!
There already looks to be electrical "flash" marks, just above the cord clamp............................ not as big a one as this would have made when it went up mind!
Ban boring signatures!
Puncher: There already looks to be electrical "flash" marks, just above the cord clamp............................ not as big a one as this would have made when it went up mind!
Good one, you can drive a 3 Kw motor with 240V/13 A
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
The truth is that they probably came with a 2 pin Euro plug which is not fused at all. B&O supplied a 4 way extension lead which accepted the Euro plugs and the extension was fitted with a UK 3 pin plug with a 13amp fuse.
The fuses that you are using are about right.
What is wrong with that ??? it will live to it's brand's name(BANG).
Where is my coat!!!
Coming from a world of other brands of high end separates, it was always a very cheap and disturbing sign to me the way the power cords on the older B&O equipment, up to and including the BM7000 and the BeoCenter 9xxx, was not only a simple two prong ungrounded plug, but was HARD wired into the device so that it couldn't even be replaced with a nice heavy duty power cable easily. The heavy duty plugs on the BL5 (though still ungrounded) are about as good as it gets.
Playdrv4me:Coming from a world of other brands of high end separates, it was always a very cheap and disturbing sign to me the way the power cords on the older B&O equipment, up to and including the BM7000 and the BeoCenter 9xxx, was not only a simple two prong ungrounded plug
The devices from that era and onwards are double insulated, and do not need a protective earth connection. (UK devices have these polarized plugs simply because the funny house wiring conventions require it - the fuse in the plug is there to protect the wiring in the walls, not the connected device. When it burns, tt needs to disrupt the live wire, not the neutral)
Also, B&O kit is usually simply installed, plugged in, and then remain like that for a decade. They're not lugged about by DJs. Using thicker "heavy duty" power cabling for devices that consume less than 1 amp would only be an installation headache (the current big active speakers potentially need more). I salute B&O for staying out of the cable nonsense business.
--mika
Playdrv4me: it was always a very cheap and disturbing sign to me the way the power cords on the older B&O equipment, up to and including the BM7000 and the BeoCenter 9xxx, was not only a simple two prong ungrounded plug, but was HARD wired into the device so that it couldn't even be replaced with a nice heavy duty power cable easily. The heavy duty plugs on the BL5 (though still ungrounded) are about as good as it gets.
Agreed, when you consider the level of attention B&O pay to their equipment.
Glad to hear I am not the only one who has the correct value fuses, 13amp seems to be supplied with every thing that has a fused socket.
I went to a lot of trouble hiding my cables behind walls but all of my power cables come out to a surface socket for isolation and access.
tournedos: Playdrv4me:Coming from a world of other brands of high end separates, it was always a very cheap and disturbing sign to me the way the power cords on the older B&O equipment, up to and including the BM7000 and the BeoCenter 9xxx, was not only a simple two prong ungrounded plug Also, B&O kit is usually simply installed, plugged in, and then remain like that for a decade.
Also, B&O kit is usually simply installed, plugged in, and then remain like that for a decade.
A nice generalization but no. I move around quite a bit for various reasons. My equipment also moves with me. I've had cables get damaged and frayed in the past or just due to age, and it's a pain the rear to have take apart a device and re-solder a cable due to this. Only my cheapest equipment in the past had permanent power cables. And a 2.00 PC power cord isn't "cable nonsense business", it's belt and suspenders plain jane useful stuff. I'm not talking about that silly Monster Cable bullshit here. From a practical standpoint, as mentioned above with B&O design, it's also silly as when you're moving the heavy equipment such as say a BC9500 around and that cable is dangling around it's a safety concern of a whole different type when you nearly trip over it!
Obviously it's a non issue NOW as they finally figured it out and even the simple two prong "lamp cord" style cords, while not as optimal as the PC style power cords, are acceptable now that every piece of B&O audio gear has them fully replaceable. Not sure why it wasn't this way since the mid-'80s, those replaceable power cords have been around for ages.
Playdrv4me:Obviously it's a non issue as they finally figured it out and even the simple two prong "lamp cord" style cords are acceptable now that every piece of B&O audio gear has them fully replaceable. Not sure why it wasn't this way since the mid-'80s, those replaceable power cords have been around for ages.
Of course they have, but I have to think really hard to come up with a single '70s-'80s consumer stereo device that didn't have captive power cords. I certainly didn't have any.
By the '90s many big AV amplifiers (from other manufacturers) had the bigger grounded IEC sockets for a detachable grounded power cable. But that was by requirement and quite sensible. By then, B&O had already moved to active speakers and actual "center" units still needed very little power, and could well do with the two-core lamp cord type cables you can easily hide away.
joeyboygolf: This plug was fitted to a Beomaster 7000 that I picked up a couple of days ago as part of a complete 7000 system. The CD and the Beogram plugs were not much better, I wonder what the Beocord will be like?? It was in use, in the sellers home.
My main reason for this post was to demonstrate the poor quality of the fitting of this UK 3 pin plug rather than the size of the fuse.
There are so other more important things wrong with the fitting, the size of the fuse is largely irrelevant.
I am afraid that there is a strange habit in the UK of cutting the 2 pin plug off and fitting a standard UK 3 pin plug. This, instead of buying a low cost adapter which is simple to fit and much safer.
Much of the equipment that I sell has been butchered in this way and it would seem that the majority of people are incapable of performing the simple task of fitting the plug properly!
Maybe the same people have their sound settings at treble +6, bass+6, loudness on!
Gripe over!!!!