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Hi, as a newbie, please don't shoot me too quickly!
I've an Avant which seems to have a duff screen [was working Ok when it 'popped', went green and failed to start later but the power on light worked] and a Beovision 3 which suddenly failed to switch on and no sign of power lights. I've seen many comments about how they are similar but does this mean they are the same inside and the parts are interchangeable? The obvious course of action is to switch the power transformer from Avant to Beo 3, the most drastic is to move the tube from the Beovision 3 to the Avant. Good idea? Impossible on both counts? Leave it to the experts? Don't touch it 'cos you're a numpty? All advice welcome and technical help appreciated.
Unlike the 32 versions, the 28 versions are totally different: the Avants (exept the 1st model) are all 100 Hz and BV3-28 all 50Hz with a BV1 chassis.
Hi, ipaul
Thanks for a speedy reply and it appears to resolve my dilemma. Basically, I shouldn't be attempting anything with these incompatible sets. So, where do long and faithful servants go to spend their latter years on Beoworld? I'm sure there is someone out there who fancies having a go - particularly on the BV3 which seems to have a less than fatal condition. Any offers or ideas? Avant Serial No.11648378 Type 8133
PS Apologies for taking time to reply - I was having a problem logging in which Keith has sorted.
Aha, your Avant is actually the oldest type 81XX 50Hz type, but the tubes should be different still (as the BV3 has a flat type tube).
Depending on your location, maybe someone wants to have a look, however, overhere (i am in NL) these types one can't even give away for free in a working condition: nobody wants a heavy 50Hz tele (with a not so great picure anyway...certainly BV3-28 is imho not much of a quality tv/picture).
Yet again, thanks for your reply. You haven't commented on the idea of swapping the power transformer from the Avant into the BV3 - am I clutching at straws? Should I accept the inevitable by offering any useable bits [screen surround etc] for spares and let them go gracefully?
Well, the chassis are very different, the transformers are unlikely to be compatible.
But apart from that: it is very unlikely a transformer is the problem in the case of the BV3, it could be anything from a fuse to a bad soldering or an faulty microcomputer.
Unless you have other reasons to get them fixed, moneywise it is all pointless, if you would like to keep on watching a CRT, go for a BV3-32 or Avant 32, much, much better picture and also dogcheap to get these days :)
Too bad, as i like to fix TVs ,but unless you can do it yourself, it's just senseless to waiste money on these...
Well that sorts it, doesn't it?
I have neither the skill nor competence to get too involved so it brings this chapter to a close. I'm a bit of a retro man - my other B+O equipment is Beocenter 2600 [bought new in 1975 and hasn't put a foot wrong since] coupled to a Revox A77 [inherited from my Dad and refurbed], a Beogram /Beocord 2000 with 3300 turntable [off eBay] and Beosound Century [again bought new].
May I be cheeky and ask what you'd consider to be the next step if I move on to a 'new' second hand LCD? [Always fancied an AV5 but difficult to get]. BV 7, 8 10??? - needs to be 32" approx.
Sad but true, innit...of course almost anything can be fixed but it would be an insane advice in this case :)
The models you mention are quite a generation away..: the AV5 is quite easy to find here, but is still 4:3, 50Hz and many times has, or gets trouble with the tube.
Having said that: if you find a good one (!) it's still picturewise the best B&O 4:3 tele build imho: the picture is razorsharp and colours great...although technically outdated, still by nowadays standards a great tv.
BV10 would be my choice but still rather pricey, therefore i bought a second hand BV7 MK2 32 which is a nice one (of course, one of the very few lcds not looking ''cheap'') but be carefull of overrated prices....as second hand lcds tend to outdate fast and new latest models are cheap.
In details and geometry the BV7 wins from my BV3-32 (in good condition), but the colours of the BV3-32 are actually more natural.
And, of course, you'd need Beolabs (or other externa; speakers) for the sound (i use Lab 5000's).
Personally i don't really like the looks of the BV8, the BV6 is still the most beautifull lcd ever made but technically outdated (picturewise) and overpriced i find.
Hi, sorry it's been a while but I had to have a decent length of mourning for the Avant which was given a fond send off a couple of weeks ago at the local recycling centre - even the attendants doffed their caps!
Turning to the BV3 [of which I have two] I don't want to abandon it until I've attempted the obvious which is to check the fuses. I have done a quick search for information on their whereabouts on the chassis with no result [surprising for Beoworld] so can anyone help? Both are type 8853, Working set is Item 1812827, Ser No 18108488 and has COG ML on the ID sticker. Non working is Item 1812809, Ser No 17797427 with COG only. As ever, all help advice and comments welcome. I don't even know if the fuses are standard UK glass tube/filament type or B+O specials - ie I don't know what I'm looking for........