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Now that we have talked about the best cd player what about the best Beocord?
Ok right the Beocord 9000 is still the king recording beast but any runners up?
Are the Beocord 5000 type 47xx the worst of them all?
What are the mid range and high range of them all?
The Beocord 8004 is technically very close to the 9000 and has all the features of the 9000.
The 70's Beocord 5000 has a nice transport (my 4705 is working flawlessly), but the electronics are somewhat old-fashioned compared with the 80's models...
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Søren Hammer:The 70's Beocord 5000 has a nice transport (my 4705 is working flawlessly),
I thought the 70's Beocord 5000 was pretty much a guaranteed tape muncher!........... or am I on the wrong machine???
Ban boring signatures!
Puncher: Søren Hammer:The 70's Beocord 5000 has a nice transport (my 4705 is working flawlessly), I thought the 70's Beocord 5000 was pretty much a guaranteed tape muncher!........... or am I on the wrong machine???
It haven't munched tapes yet - as crazy as it sounds!
Again , best is a multi-dimensional attribute.
The best sounding will probably be the 9000 as long as you use the correct tape. One could argue that the 8004 is actually better still as the heads are better sized and with the advent of standard tape , the CCC of the 9000 was not strictly necessary. I couldn't differentiate between them when I had them.
However the 80s 5000 was a splendid deck and takes a lot to beat.
The 70s 5000 is the only complete B&O deck as all others use bought in transports. The 4705 was the most advanced with a three head design but the 4715 was more reliable. I use the word reliable loosely as despite assurances given above, these are chronically unreliable. They are the only piece of B&O that my old dealer Windows refused to repair. The excellent technician said that opening one up always picked up so many faults that an economic repair was invarably impossible and the shop used to subsidise the customers! The later machines like the 8004 were clockwork in comparison. Having said that, they are gorgeous machines - and more facilities than the other with fade in and out and a wonderful interface. The manual is also brilliant!
HX-Pro in the later decks allowed much better recordings to be made on lesser tape so the early machines are always going to struggle to keep up. The 2400 does deserve an honourable mention though - cost is now nothing and 8000 like performance.
Personally, I would always use a 5500 as I value the auto-reverse!
Peter
Peter: Personally, I would always use a 5500 as I value the auto-reverse!
Yes, horray for auto-reverse!
I have a 1900, 2400, 3300, 4500 and 8004. I should also add I have never in my life heard a BC outside of my own home, so can't speak to any other deck.
The best performer of these 5 in my opinion is the 4500. It's not even close.
As I purchased all these used with unknown histories, perhaps my 8004 just has worn heads. However, Benny Amina overhauled it just a few months ago and mentioned nothing regarding head issues. Essentially he just replaced belts and cleaned the tape path.
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What I write above about history is not strictly true. I bought my 4500 from Barry here. If memory serves, Barry was the original owner but I don't know how much use the deck had had.
Peter:The 70s 5000 is the only complete B&O deck as all others use bought in transports.
Well - at least it was all 'Made in Denmark' - but I'm not sure the mechanics were made at the B&O factories...
So one could argue, that many later Beocords are also 'complete B&O' - as the tape mechanism in almost all (if not all) later Beocords was designed by B&O -and just manufactured in Japan. It was not only some 'standard tape mech' taken from the shelf of some Japanese manufacturers.
Funny, I just realised, in spite of my first B&O was Beocord 1100, I do not use Beocords Now I own only 4500 in BS, but it is in the box.
Beocord 5000 (47xx) could be intresting, because I do like my Nak 700 and TC310 from same period.
Hmmm. first Beo? New trhead?
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Steffen:So one could argue, that many later Beocords are also 'complete B&O' - as the tape mechanism in almost all (if not all) later Beocords was designed by B&O -and just manufactured in Japan. It was not only some 'standard tape mech' taken from the shelf of some Japanese manufacturers.
And if BeoWorld had existed then, we could have had a thread about "made in Japan" instead of China, etc
BeoNut since '75
No I think Deming has prevented this.
pacificocean: No I think Deming has prevented this.
By that time he had, but I remember as a kid in the Fifties being told that I could not have a particular toy 'cause it was "Jap crap".
Alternatively, it could have been that WWII was still too fresh in people's minds.