ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rxf5LOaTY1k
Could cleaning records with wood glue really work ?
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
Cleaning vinyl records with wood glue is the most stupid idea I´ve ever heard of, first of all, the glue will not penetrate to the bottom of the grooves, and thats really where we want to clean. Second, the soundtrack within the grooves is small tops and deeps, at the side of the grooves, the tops very very fine. The glue when dry will pull off at least the fine peaks of the tops, if not all.
But after this "cleaning action" your record will sound different I can guarantee you that.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Wasnt there something called "crazy glue" in 70-80´? It was something like gel allowed to dry on record, and then lifted out in one piece with all garbage sticked on it.
blah-blah and photographs as needed
There are plenty of YouTube videos on this technique, and from the comments plenty of good results and not so good results.
Some claim it removes every pop and click, others say the silent or quiet sections become noisy. The records can distort although it is claimed that they usually go flat again after.
Whatever the merits of the method it looks like too much trouble to me.
Graham
The pops, crackles and clicks together with the odd scratch was part of life when the only choice was vinyl records (or later cassette tapes). The laborious and time consuming cleaning ritual performed before playing a record took much of the pleasure away, because by the time the record was 'clean', I'd used up much of my "peace and quiet time" with little time left to enjoy the music.
Oh the joy therefore when the CD came along, no background noise, track selection, shuffle etc.
Why anyone would even consider going back to vinyl is beyond me and yes I know it sounds different and "better" to many. And yes I know CDs can scratch!
Wood glue is water based, vinyl is oil. The two don't mix, at the molecular level they repel - instead, the wood glue attaches itself to all impurities, and when you pull off the layer of glue, you end up with a very clean record. In the 70s, there were products available that did the same, but with fancier names.
When I came across this method, I had to try it. Kind of strange how the glue came off in one sheet, with the grooves perfectly mirrored. The record was clean and quiet afterwards. But it's time consuming. I'm using one of these - it cleans the record with ultrasound and rotating brushes, and dries it afterwards. Perfect and quiet.
WOW! That is cool!
But sells for >2.000 Euro???
You need to clean quite a few records to make it a good Investment...
Ralf
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
In storage: Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000 (1960s).
The pleasure of hearing just music, no noise, is quite a good investment. Since I have thousands of LPs, it's long ago repaid itself. Particularly as I can rescue used vinyl that ends up sounding as new. It's a very good LP-cleaning system.
I usually set one record to cleaning while listening to another. The unit is in another room.
Now this cleaning machine ticks all the boxes.
Now I own CD's and a huge Cloud in the sky, but there is no drama like vinyl.
If you play back the wood glue copy do you hear "Paul is Dead"?
kokomo: Why anyone would even consider going back to vinyl is beyond me
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there