ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
bayerische:About sales (Ironic) Or Price, unless there's been a radical up/downturn or the Pound Sterling? Too long to list....
Razlaw:As seems to be typical of youtube videos, likes and dislikes are a small fraction of views. And not a single dislike of it at this point.
Raeuber:That's because everybody hopes Tue will jump into the water after the video and will never come back! 😃
CaptainC:30th october: when the flag drops, the bullshit stops.
Well, actually not before the 31th, when the speakers are in the shop - or rather not before the 'haters' have had a chance to go to a shop (to look for themselves)....
....and maybe then 'the bullshit' comes even worse.
It seems like nothing can make a 'hardcore oldschool-BeoLover' change his mind.
Grrreetings Millemissen
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: It seems like nothing can make a 'hardcore oldschool-BeoLover' change his mind. Grrreetings Millemissen There is a tv - and there is a BV.
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Razlaw: As seems to be typical of youtube videos, likes and dislikes are a small fraction of views. And not a single dislike of it at this point.
As seems to be typical of youtube videos, likes and dislikes are a small fraction of views. And not a single dislike of it at this point.
And on this thread we are up to 13 pages, viewed 48,962 times and some 485 posts ... no one can complain that this launch is boring !!
BeoNut since '75
Millemissen: It seems like nothing can make a 'hardcore oldschool-BeoLover' change his mind.
Bravo!
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Jonathan: I saw the Beolab 17s today.... I like the casing and the features, but the plastic grills are awful!!!
I saw the Beolab 17s today....
I like the casing and the features, but the plastic grills are awful!!!
Have you also seen the impressive number of connections at the bottom?
I've seen it without the grill and am impressed by the size of the woofer. I haven't heard them, but I'm sure that they will impress..
Impressed, yep that's the word. Even the shape does...
elephant:Are you able to say which store/person you were visiting ? Annie ? James ? Kym ? My new avatar reads "anything unrelated to elephants is irrelephant" - except B&O (of course)
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Beobuddy:Have you also seen the impressive number of connections at the bottom? I've seen it without the grill and am impressed by the size of the woofer. I haven't heard them, but I'm sure that they will impress.. Impressed, yep that's the word. Even the shape does...
jldmelb:I saw them at Collins Street, they were just unpacking them!! What time is it? Beotime!
Jonathan: Oh, I definitely agree! I really like the speakers! I'm just not a fan of the plastic grill... The connections are very impressive, and they think the wireless unit will be around the $500 mark... I saw this too, and you can connect three pairs of speakers to it! It also has left and right RCA which confused me!?!
Oh, I definitely agree! I really like the speakers! I'm just not a fan of the plastic grill... The connections are very impressive, and they think the wireless unit will be around the $500 mark... I saw this too, and you can connect three pairs of speakers to it! It also has left and right RCA which confused me!?!
I was surprised by the optical input and output. And if wireless doesn't work, then (network)wired is also an option.
How are these speakers volume controlled? if you're using wired and/or optical. I know that wireless and via the powerlink audiosignals are controlled by the wireless unit or BV11/BS4.
@Jonathan,
how is the 'unit' connected to the BV?
Must be using the existing PowerLink-outputs?
@Beobuddy,
Are these optical inputs?
Would be the first time in the history of B&O, normally they use coaxial for digital connections.
MM
Both, I think. Can't remember exactly.
Definitely, optical.That was the reason why I was surprised.
My dealer said their BL17's are now in, will be setting them up tomorrow. Looks like they'll be available to demo tomorrow or Wednesday, from most dealers.
Mind you, I've just committed to a new car, so my purchase is on the back-burner!
They are sceduled for presenting in the shops for Thursday.
If you see/hear them before, don't tell where
Oh....!!!
Whatever that I saw a glimpse of on the official site I want to buy!!!!
Can't wait for the big reveal tomorrow. I am actually looking for an new wireless system now and this might be it!
rednik: BeoBoy68: Bang & Olufsen's portfolio should have 3 ranges: The Classical, iconic products The new Modern, with new Designers The BeoPlay, fashionable If the classical,iconic products had still been attractive to customers in 2013 they would have still been selling in sufficient quantities to still be on sale. They weren't so they aren't. I wouldn't buy BeoLab 8000/6000/4000 now compared to current offerings from other manufacturers even with all the latest tech built in. I think they look old fashioned and very 90s. I guess the decline in sales figures suggests I'm not that unusual.
BeoBoy68: Bang & Olufsen's portfolio should have 3 ranges: The Classical, iconic products The new Modern, with new Designers The BeoPlay, fashionable
Bang & Olufsen's portfolio should have 3 ranges:
The Classical, iconic products
The new Modern, with new Designers
The BeoPlay, fashionable
If the classical,iconic products had still been attractive to customers in 2013 they would have still been selling in sufficient quantities to still be on sale.
They weren't so they aren't.
I wouldn't buy BeoLab 8000/6000/4000 now compared to current offerings from other manufacturers even with all the latest tech built in. I think they look old fashioned and very 90s. I guess the decline in sales figures suggests I'm not that unusual.
The 90s btw is now back in full force. And this time it has geek mixed in.
emilos: They have showed that they can work without the ALT with their Beolab 14. Not that we have to discuss this speaker but look have many have seen the speaker on youtube= 1,800,000 people that is impressive. I do not think that through the testing of this speaker they did not have focus on the ALT and it's way to perform in a sitting position. I do not think this speaker is for me but I love the wood and hope to see a lot of that in the future.
They have showed that they can work without the ALT with their Beolab 14. Not that we have to discuss this speaker but look have many have seen the speaker on youtube= 1,800,000 people that is impressive.
I do not think that through the testing of this speaker they did not have focus on the ALT and it's way to perform in a sitting position.
I do not think this speaker is for me but I love the wood and hope to see a lot of that in the future.
I think ALT is completely unnecessary and in fact wasteful.
When will B&O finally launch a surround sound bar? It is long overdue!
I saw the Beolab 17's yesterday when i was in the Richmond store. I don't mind the outside look of the back of them, just the gaping hole with the plastic mesh is nothing to get excited over. Maybe a black fabric is an option?
Sound on the other hand, yes they do sound quite good.
wonderfulelectric:When will B&O finally launch a surround sound bar? It is long overdue!
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
No - he means a 'pseudo-surround-speaker' 📣
Millemissen:No - he means a 'pseudo-surround-speaker' 📣 MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Chris Townsend: Millemissen: No - he means a 'pseudo-surround-speaker' 📣 MM There is a tv - and there is a BV. Ahhh, ps ps pseudio
Millemissen: No - he means a 'pseudo-surround-speaker' 📣 MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Hopefully it's not too cold, then there'd be no jacket required....
Chris Townsend: wonderfulelectric: When will B&O finally launch a surround sound bar? It is long overdue! Like the Beolab 7-2!
wonderfulelectric: When will B&O finally launch a surround sound bar? It is long overdue!
Like the Beolab 7-2!
Come on guys don't rock the boat!
If B&O hear your suggestion they might make something that people in numbers actually want to buy!
With customers going into showrooms and buying products it could throw the whole distribution into chaos.
Its just not geared up for selling things.......
:)
StUrrock:Come on guys don't rock the boat! If B&O hear your suggestion they might make something that people in numbers actually want to buy! With customers going into showrooms and buying products it could throw the whole distribution into chaos. Its just not geared up for selling things....... :)
Beolab 7.1/2/6
You won't find a more powerful soundbar!
....anyway, back on topic...
I'm hoping the new subwoofer is somewhere between the Beolab 2 and the Beolab 11. I'm guessing it is geared more towards music?
Chris Townsend: StUrrock: Come on guys don't rock the boat! If B&O hear your suggestion they might make something that people in numbers actually want to buy! With customers going into showrooms and buying products it could throw the whole distribution into chaos. Its just not geared up for selling things....... :) Whilst down in London I have seen numerous stores selling the B&W Panorama sound bar. It's not cheap but according to the sales folk it's flying out the door. Their problems is getting enough of them! People seem happier investing in sound equipment to go with a TV, as opposed to spending a lot on what is an ever evolving technology in panels. So why not a 7-2 optimised for plug and play, and surround whatever.
StUrrock: Come on guys don't rock the boat! If B&O hear your suggestion they might make something that people in numbers actually want to buy! With customers going into showrooms and buying products it could throw the whole distribution into chaos. Its just not geared up for selling things....... :)
Whilst down in London I have seen numerous stores selling the B&W Panorama sound bar.
It's not cheap but according to the sales folk it's flying out the door. Their problems is getting enough of them! People seem happier investing in sound equipment to go with a TV, as opposed to spending a lot on what is an ever evolving technology in panels.
So why not a 7-2 optimised for plug and play, and surround whatever.
Yes. Soundbars pricey and is under the lifestyle genre. It's right up B&O's alley! I want something stylish and with no subwoofers required. Perhaps wireless subwoofer optional? B&W is such a mainstream brand. I wanna stay niche and snobby. Lol
anyway I am so glad B&O seem to be listening in to the posts in the forum. Wireless 7.1 channel 24bit compatibility and revised lab8000s? How very responsive.
B&O is finally acting like a lifestyle brand again. Upscale Bose? Why not? Just focus on your target market and do it convincingly.
Pictures and prices (in Danish and DKK):
BeoLab 17
http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9934&zoneid=5
BeoLab 18
http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9935&zoneid=5
BeoLab 19
http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9940&zoneid=5
B&O WiSa transmitter
http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9943&zoneid=5
BeoVision Eclipse 55, BeoPlay S8 (sub+rears), BeoPlay A9 MKII (living room), BeoVision Avant 32 DVD (retro gaming, basement), BeoLab 4000 (entertainment room, basement), BeoSound 8 (workshop), 2x BeoPlay S3 (PC), BeoPlay A1, BeoPlay H2/H3 (on the go)
Is the wooden grill suppose to be some kind of acoustic lense to disperse the midrange to match up with the treble? I quite enjoy the design but again I agree with others that the lenses look like an afterthought. Seriously why even bother?!
Anyway I imagine the lab8000 replacement looking quite sharp with a variety of wood colours like black ash, rosewood or even bright neon stained wood colours. Or multicolored with individual stripes in a different colour.
oh I just thought of a solution to solve the lens on top conundrum! Simply introduce a grill option that extends all the way up to the top of the speakers!
Frederik Beoberg: Pictures and prices (in Danish and DKK): BeoLab 17 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/articlefiles/9934-1200-f230add6-9273-46b9-9d50-9b9da5686821-IMG_0403.jpg
http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/articlefiles/9934-1200-f230add6-9273-46b9-9d50-9b9da5686821-IMG_0403.jpg
WTF is this ? cardboard speakers ? where is the long lasting design style of Bno gone ?? This is all Art not design anymore.
Gatex: Frederik Beoberg: Pictures and prices (in Danish and DKK): BeoLab 17 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9934&zoneid=5 WTF is this ? cardboard speakers ? where is the long lasting design style of Bno gone ?? This is all Art not design anymore.
Frederik Beoberg: Pictures and prices (in Danish and DKK): BeoLab 17 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9934&zoneid=5
Designers today don't really take chances anymore! Those speakers look like Linn's retired Komponent surround speakers. In fact the Beolab17 is more linn than linn is , it's a hybrid of two of linn's speaker design the Komponent and the Kiko.
Btw the 90s arts and craft look is all back now. So brace yourself for a major shift in the whole design world to go arty quirky techy.
More pictures and information:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/29/bang-and-olufsen-wisa-speakers/
I am glad to see the Beolab 17 have interchangeable facias, as the one presented isn't to my taste at all.
I am also pleased to see that the beolab 18 come with black or white lamella. The wood just doesn't do it for me.
Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons.
Frederik Beoberg: Pictures and prices (in Danish and DKK): BeoLab 17 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9934&zoneid=5 BeoLab 18 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9935&zoneid=5 BeoLab 19 http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9940&zoneid=5 B&O WiSa transmitter http://www.recordere.dk/indhold/templates/design.aspx?articleid=9943&zoneid=5
Horrible. Just Horrible!
Too long to list....
Seriously.... The criticized "Beolab8003", or the BL18 as it's called in real life, is far the best one of those 3 ugly bastardos....
I'm sorry, I just feel I need to speak out for the mistakes being done by a company I love!
These three speakers will not make it far.
Just showed the pictures to my wife, and the black and white photo posted above, is not from the movie "Psycho", it's a picture of Eva!