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Joined this form today looking for help. I bought a beogram 4000 at an estate sale.
Before I bought it, it was not adjusted proper and would lower the arm before reaching the record.
When I got it home I was able to manually lower the arm. Then I cleaned it up and now it will not lower at all. Help please. I was so excited to find this TT and looking forward to hearing it.
Before posting this, I have read many past post that show how to clean and oiled the sticky points which I have done.
The arm drops freely if I use my finger to to pull down the lever as if the solenod was doing so. The soeniod is not even trying to do anything, it appears it is never getting triggered.
The arm will move quickly to the record, slow down after reaching it but never lower. It keep moving to toward the center at a faster than playing speed. If I pull down the lever with my finger, the arm lower and the arm stops moving except as needed to adjust the tracking. So the left/right linear tracking seems to be working.
Using the keypad I can move the arm left and right, but it will not drop or raise. It also does not stop after reaching the inner most stop. I have to use the right > key to return the arm to the starting position, which it then triggers the switch to shut it off.
Other than cleaning and mechnical steps I have zero experience with fixing electronics. How can I diagnose and fix this problem?
Maybe you set accidental the weight to 0 during the cleanup?
Vintage Bang & Olufsen
Hi,
Welcome to Beoworld!
Can you test for bad components?
Jacques
the_o_master: Maybe you set accidental the weight to 0 during the cleanup?
I thought about that, but wouldn't selonoid still fire, but just not be able to push it down?
chartz: Hi, Welcome to Beoworld! Can you test for bad components?
That is probably beyond my skills. Anyone know of a someone in Dallas that could diagnose and repair this TT for me?
I have not been able to find anyone with experience to repair my beogram 4000. Anyone have a recommendation? Hopefully in the Dallas/Fort Worth Texas area or within a few hours drive.
It is a miracle! When I was about to give up I gave it one more try. The off button was not working, so that made me think perhaps something was wrong with the control pad. I took the metal buttons off, made sure the switchs were working and put it back on. That did not change anything. Then one last try, on the 4000 there are a series of small mechnical switches that triggers slide over when the moving carriage slide towards the center. My thought all along is one of these triggers must not be working after I deoxit... I had worked them for days, but it never helped. I gave it one last try, working the button that I was not hearing make a click many more times. Then on litterally my last try before giving up and waiting on professional help, it suddenly started working. The first time that solenoid snaped I was overjoyed!
Now on to adjusting it and finding for a din to standard audio cable so I can listen to it! Question do I need a conversion cable that also has the ground?
You could probably find one cheaper than this, but I'd opt for a quality one for a 4000.
Thank you. Does the cable need to be that short to work properly? If I get a longer one will it add too much resistance as it does increase the length of the signal cable.
It's just an adapter cable with a female DIN that you plug your cable with male DIN output into..
What? Not going to use the Beogram with B&O receiver?
chartz: What? Not going to use the Beogram with B&O receiver?
I must join Jacques here, You have an iconic BG 4000 on your hand, it deserves a Beomaster, a BM 4400 would be my choice.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
There was a BM4000 for sale at the same estate sale, but I was out of money buying the beogram 4000. Now I wish I had streached my wallet a bit and bought it.
I purchased a the Din to RCA converter cable and was finally able to hook my beogram 4000 up to my receiver.Good news is it plays fine on 45 rpm. Bad news is it plays slow on 33 rpm. The adjustments for the 33 speed seem to do very little. The adjustments for the 45 speed seem to work fine. For a few mins the 33 adjustments worked and I did get it to play at the right speed on 33 for a while, but then it slowed down again on 33. I assume it is some type of electronic issue as mechanically it work fine on 45 rpm. Someone on the audiokarma web site directed me back to this forum to seek help from a person named Dillen. Dillen are you out there?
"contact Dillen on Beoworld in the Beogram section for a capacitor kit for starters. He is also a great resource for coaching if there are any problems beyond aged caps. The 4000 is considered to be rarer/higher quality than the 4002/4. Reasonable men will argue whether the 4000 or the 8002 was their best turntable. Whatever, you have a "keeper"
Welcome to the loony bin, Dave.
Dillen should be along shortly.
PS: seeing my post count reminds me that the forum software was upgraded recently and the dearth of history here is recorded in the (archived) former forum which I forget how to get to just now, but when I needed to, was able to find!
Not to disappoint you, but you're going to have to do major work on this machine - you've fixed one thing, and another appears. That's par for the course with this machine.
It has to be done once, correctly, and will last for 30+ years.
No cheaper, or easier way with this one.
If you're willing to ship, I'd be happy to do the restoration, but in the USA, there are only a rare couple of honest-to-goodness BeoGram experts with white hair, earned throughout decades of actually knowing what they're doing, as opposed to those who only say that they know what they're doing!
My first choice in the USA would be Paul at Atlantic Systems near Boston.
Atlantic Systems
Menahem
Menahem,
Do you have contact information for Paul at Atlantic Systems near Boston?
David
Dave, sorry just saw your post for Beo 4000 repair shops. If you haven't found one and are still looking you can try Pyramid Audio-Austin, TX 512.458.8292. They work on all kinds of B&O equipment. I'd call them first just to make sure. They've fitted a a new laser into my BS9000, and are currently repairing my Beogram 8000. I hope this helps. Let us know your outcome.
Joe