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Beovision 7 with passive speakers?

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bm_bv_bc_bg Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013 12:52 PM

Hi Beoworld,

I am considering to buy used BV7 (32" or maybe even 40", prices are now low and good enough for my budget)but at the moment I do not have a budget for new active speakers too. 

I have my old beautiful Beovox P-50 hanging on the wall connected to the Beomaster 2000. In your opinion would it be possible to stay with this passive speakers and to connect them via Beolink passive to the BV7? I presume yes but how should I connect them to the Bm2000. Is it a posibility to use the speakers with the TV and with the old receiver? I know it would be strage configuration but I wanted to ask what is you experience with a such configuration if any?

Thanks in advance!

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kallasr replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 1:22 PM

Yes, you can use a Beolink passive to drive the Speakers.

For using the TV with the Beomaster 2000 there is no possibility, since that device does not have Aux Link.

BUT you could use a switch for using 2 amplifiers with one set of speakers.
(I used to have a Dodocus 3 to do this.)

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tournedos replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 1:49 PM

kallasr:
For using the TV with the Beomaster 2000 there is no possibility, since that device does not have Aux Link.

Not in a "smart" way, but you could of course run audio out from the TV (from one of the SCARTs perhaps, I don't know what kind of connections the BV7s have) into any line level input of the Beomaster. Then you will need to use the Beomaster to control the volume, so it might be too annoying for daily use in the long run. The bright side is that the only investment will be some cables and adapters.

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BO replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 2:34 PM

If there is a headphone output on the BV7 you could use that one as a volume controlled source for the Beomaster.

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How about the powerlink from the surround module, left and right front?

 

Powerlink is volume controlled line output, intended for an active speaker… is it possible to use that as input for the beomaster, connected to line level in (tape in). Then set the master to a “known” volume and configure the 3.0 setup on the BV7?

 

This was a question more than an answer but might lead to something nice :)

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tournedos replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 3:43 PM

BeoLignage:
How about the powerlink from the surround module, left and right front?

Well, duh! Smile A good idea. As far as I understand, you could do with a simple DIN cable in that case; with just pins 2 (ground) and 3 & 5 (L & R signal) connected.

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Hi guys,  

Many thanks for the tips. I thought also about powerlink output from BV7 and on some way converting it to "normal" 5 pol DIN to use it on the tape input of the BM.

But I am not sure about the signal level of the powerlink output and I am not sure about using it direct or over some adapter/converter.

Therefore I asked if anybody done it before.

For the first step it would help if somebody has a shemeatic of the powerlink pin definition.

All other tips and tricks are further welcome! 

BR

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elephant replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 8:18 PM
bm_5F00_bv_5F00_bc_5F00_bg:

Hi guys,

Many thanks for the tips. I thought also about powerlink output from BV7 and on some way converting it to "normal" 5 pol DIN to use it on the tape input of the BM.

But I am not sure about the signal level of the powerlink output and I am not sure about using it direct or over some adapter/converter.

Therefore I asked if anybody done it before.

For the first step it would help if somebody has a shemeatic of the powerlink pin definition.

All other tips and tricks are further welcome!

BR

Look on the BeoTech micro/sister site !

Plenty of wiring diagrams for the B&O interfaces

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Beobuddy replied on Thu, Nov 14 2013 9:33 PM

I recently got a BV7-40 mk1 with hd-ready for my bedroom.

I'm not spending much money and am considering to use a old Beolab 3500 as front/center speaker.

It has MCL and a ML socket. From the BV powerlink to the MCL socket, data for the source will probably work So I only have to adapt the internal gain as powerlink has a different level than speakerlink.

So, just an experiment.... 

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bm_bv_bc_bg:

Hi guys,  

Many thanks for the tips. I thought also about powerlink output from BV7 and on some way converting it to "normal" 5 pol DIN to use it on the tape input of the BM.

But I am not sure about the signal level of the powerlink output and I am not sure about using it direct or over some adapter/converter.

Therefore I asked if anybody done it before.

For the first step it would help if somebody has a shemeatic of the powerlink pin definition.

All other tips and tricks are further welcome! 

BR

Just picture-google for 'powerlink cable' - lots of diagrams to find that way.

MM

 

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bm_bv_bc_bg
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Look on the BeoTech micro/sister site ! Plenty of wiring diagrams for the B&O interfaces

Hi,

yes I did it and this was very helpful!

After seeing the specifications of Audio AUX and Powerlink connections I think it must be possible to connect BV7 with BM2000 via "adapted" 5 pole DIN cable with only pin 2, 3 and 5 on the side of Beomastetr (to not to get the signal "Speaker on" and "Power up" over pin 4 and 1 to the BM). Than I need to connect the BV to tape connector of the Beomaster. Of course I would have to switch TV on with remote and then manually to swich the Beomaster on each time but than I could use my passive speakers toward with this system (till my budget would allow the next acquisition ;-)

Am I right owith the connection or I am missing something?

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check this http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/8294.aspx

how I read the pinout pictured in link above and on the beotech site, the same adapter should be used in both ends and normal RCA cable in between. however as you can see, I haven't got it working currently.

if it does work its a really cheap solution since the pictured adapter is available for 1.5€ a pice at www.ELFA.xx and the cable is not much more...

please report back if you tried it, and results

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Hi,

Unfortunately I can't report back cause I still don't own a BV7 but I will do it as soon as I purchased it. 

Anyhow in a meantime I am sure that the simplest solution would be the headphone output (as suggested by BO) of course only if the BV7 has it.

I could not find this information on the BW. Can anybody confirm this?

Regards

 

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stefan replied on Tue, Nov 26 2013 11:26 AM

Powerlink outputs and headphone outputs are volume controled signals, so you will have a "double volume control", if you connect your BV to a Beomaster AUX input. The BV7 should have an AV1 Scart socket for V.TAPE use. I would buy a Scart - rca adapter and use the L-R audio outs for connection to your BM. The Scart out is a fixed line level out meant for tape recording, it should always carry the signal of the actual video source you are watching/listening to. And you can use your BM for volume control, equalizer...

I used that AV socket on an old MX for an external RF modulator for link rooms. Worked great.

Stefan

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BeoLignage replied on Tue, Nov 26 2013 12:36 PM

Will you have a center speaker for your BV7? e.g. 7.1 or 7.4. in that case you would like the TV to control volume, and therefore use the PL out. otherwise you would not achieve a 3.0 setup, which I guess is preferable, compared to just have stereosound including voices from the program you are watching distributed to the speakers on the sides.

the BeoMaster probably have a start up volume, set this to a suitable level. and always restart the BM before watching TV in 3.0 mode. and then control volume with the TV.

if you think of using the BV7 without center speaker, then follow the recomendation from Stefan!

BR //Goran

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Hi guys, 

Many thanks again for the tips! 

As I said at the beginning I have no budgetfor the active speakers therefore the solution with the central speaker BL7.1/2/4 is temporary not an issue. 

BV7 has to send the sound to the pasive Beovox P50 speakers either via beolink passive or over the Beomaster wich is my preferred option.

I think the solution of Stefan is the nearest to my needs though I would not have a possibility to control the volume level with remote control. 

Ok, most important is that it is possible. 

Many thanks again!

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