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Beovox MC120-2 crossover mod?

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chartz Posted: Tue, Nov 26 2013 3:46 PM

Hi, I'd like to boost treble a little (2 dB). Now what resistor should I alter? R4 or R5? Both?

Thank you !

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BO replied on Tue, Nov 26 2013 4:06 PM

3dB is the smallest difference in sound pressure an human ear can recognize.

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Yes, some physical experiements, say that human ear cant hear difference in less then 3dB, but i reality, my experience is the oposit. 

Less then one dB differnce is difficult for my ear, but I tune equalizers dB by dB thousands of times a day in my work and to me a 2dB change is dramatic.  I guess this is different for people.

I am not super expert in crossover but my suggession would be for you to soldier a 7 or 8 Ohm resistor parallel with R4, to achieve a 2dB boost.

Smart thing with soldier parallell is that by two cuts of the pliers you are back to orginal if you are not happy with your mod.

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chartz:
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tournedos replied on Tue, Nov 26 2013 5:30 PM

Christian Christensen:
I am not super expert in crossover but my suggession would be for you to soldier a 7 or 8 Ohm resistor parallel with R4, to achieve a 2dB boost.

I suspect it will also alter the crossover frequency of the tweeter network (more so than a larger R5 would). Modifying the original design will mess up the crossover somewhat anyway, so I don't suppose that would be any issue in practice, and the way you suggest is easier.

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Mika, yes I suspect a slight differnce aswell, being not the bigest expert on crossovers, but in state of  capacitors passing through, you can see the  as a resistor network and thats how I see it.

Then how much this small change of change would affect the filter frequence and steep is for people with more knowledge then I to respond.

 

Anyone here for an qualified answer ?

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chartz, try
Its not gonna kill your speakers, even with a slitght change in crossover point.

I did similar change to my M75, and the reslut was wonderful 

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chartz replied on Wed, Nov 27 2013 6:12 AM

Thanks for the answers!

I would like to achieve that treble boost and not change the crossover low cut frequency.

And the MC120 being a pain to open...

Jacques

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I have now talked with a friend that has designed crossover for years.
He has read the thread.

As R4 is in direct serie with a capacitor, yes  changing R4 will also change the filter frequence, but its a matter of only a  few procent .

His answer is that you increase the value of R5 with 50-100% which will force enough more current through the tweeter,   to achieve what you need.

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chartz replied on Fri, Nov 29 2013 6:22 AM

Thank you very much!

I will do the mod, measure output and tell you whether it is an improvement.

Jacques

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Consider that the tolerence of the capacitors in the filter by orginal is 10 to 20 %. imagine how  how filter frequence could change from intended point   ?, unless they were manually matcing capacitors a the factory, which we dont know.

So a few procent impact is really nothing. 

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