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Hi,
I have a BV11 connected to a Popcorn hour PCH. The PCH can "passthrough" HD sound, but i wonder if the BV11 can decode it. I have a movie with both DD 5.1 sound and Dolby TrueHD. If I change the audio source to Dolby TrueHD then no sound is comming out.
So the overall question is: Will the BV11 be able to decode DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD sound to a 5.1 setup. ?
I have been looking around B&O manuals for this, but I cant find any relavant information. But it would also sound strange to me if "state of the art" tv cant decode uncompressed sound. I know B&O have to pay some (IP) rights to dolby and dts for decoding thoose formats, but a tv in this class this should not be the problem.
Regards :-)
I was told that B&O will not support lossless formats in their decoder and instead customers must let the external players do the decoding. I guess it is a license issue. If I select audio pass thru to my BV7, then I get no sound either.
I would have preferred that B&O would do the decoding because I think that their decoder must be good because of the Price of the product and the sound quality of B&O in general.
This is an often upcoming question.
As beolion writes current BV's can't decode the HD soundformats - no decoder(s) built-in in the BV's.
Let the player convert to (L)PCM - it shouldn't be a problem to let the player do that job!
if it will be be possible in future BV's to bitstream the HD-formats, you could ask Geoff Martin - he should be the man with the answer/the explanation.
Just send him a PM (and don't forget to post his answer here).
Or make a public thread on the forum with this question - I am (allmost) sure he will see that.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
beolion: I was told that B&O will not support lossless formats in their decoder and instead customers must let the external players do the decoding. I guess it is a license issue. If I select audio pass thru to my BV7, then I get no sound either.
I backup/store all my Blu-ray's on a Synology NAS drive (using MakeMKV) and it creates a 1:1 version, including the uncompressed audio stream. I tick off the standard Dolby Digital audio, leaving just the uncompressed version. MakeMKV converts the audio to an uncompressed audio file that the BV11 can understand, meaning you have none of the player-side decoding issues associated with DTS-HD etc.
It also makes it far easier to find a movie, without having to insert the disc, skip through all those pre-film copyright warnings, trailers and so on. You can remove all of this when you create your NAS backup of the Blu-ray. When you play the film, you go straight to the film.
BeoNut since '75
elephant:@moxxey - you use a windows platform to get BR drive access ?
No, Mac. I use my MBP whilst working. They take ages to rip - 2.5 hours. I use a small external Sony Blu-ray portable player, powered by USB.
Picture quality is the same as the Blu-ray, audio is uncompressed and way better than the audio from the same movie on an Apple TV. A good example is Valkyrie. Compare the scene early in the movie when Cruise is talking to the other soldier and a plane drops a couple of bombs. On the Apple TV, this is reasonable. Nothing shakes. The same ripped Blu-ray movie causes the room to shake - yes, from the BL11 - in the same scene. The difference is incredible. Another good example is Downfall, where the Russian's are shelling Berlin. The explosions are way more effective via the Blu-ray version.
It's enough to justify buying the expensive speakers and a reason why I somewhat 'fear' replacing the BL11 with BL19.
@beolion
I dont think the sound module in BV7 is the same as BV11, and therefor I had hope for the newer version.
@Millemissen
"Let the player decode the format" But why ? You can always buy 3. part equipment for doing stuf, but wouldent it be nice if it were integrated :-)
I dont want to buy a blue-ray player only for decoding. I normally rip from computer and save to nas. Thereafter my popcorn hour sends the sound as "passthrough" to the BV11
What im looking for is some official document from B&O saying that: The BV11 can decode this, and not decode that.
I have a BV11 and was intrigued why a streaming network radio site like radioparadise.com would show the slides on the BV11 web browser but would not broadcast any sound. My dealer confirmed the same issues on his own BV11's and he asked Struer for advice.
The answer was that the BV11 was not designed to decode network radio streams, but that maybe the customer would like to specify which particular services he would like to be programmed into the next version of the Encore!
Graham
farfar: What im looking for is some official document from B&O saying that: The BV11 can decode this, and not decode that.
Here ya go!
Ah, you know... A little B&O here, a little there
It's in the FAQ for V1, BV11 and BS4:
http://www.beoplay.com/~/media/ManualsPDF/2012_05_01_V1/Supported_formats.pdf?dmc=1&ts=20121011T1434327827'
moxxey: elephant:@moxxey - you use a windows platform to get BR drive access ? No, Mac. I use my MBP whilst working. They take ages to rip - 2.5 hours. I use a small external Sony Blu-ray portable player, powered by USB.
Do you mean this one "BDP-SX1 First-ever portable Blu-ray Disc™ player from Sony with 25.7 cm / 10.1" LCD screen" ?
It's a mini-screen player - or did you mean a BR drive ? I can't see any that output to the USB (but plenty that use their USB to support playback of files from a ISB drive attache to the BR player)
elephant: Do you mean this one "BDP-SX1 First-ever portable Blu-ray Disc™ player from Sony with 25.7 cm / 10.1" LCD screen" ?
It was this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005M3UIS4/
You don't need to worry about it's capabilities. All you need it to do is read the Blu-ray contents from the disc. I then use MakeMKV to remove the the trailers and other content, leaving just the movie and uncompressed audio.
Watched Django Unchained from my Blu-ray backup last night. I previously rented this on the Apple TV, when it was released. The audio quality of the version from my ripped Blu-ray, was incredible. Like chalk and cheese.
Just so people are aware, it's still - in theory - illegal to make a backup/store a Blu-ray movie in the UK (you aren't allowed to store content from any disc with copyright protection), at least. If you go down this route, make sure you keep the original Blu-ray, just in case, to prove ownership :)
Ahaa :-)
No HD decoding, which I think is sadly for a tv like the BV 11. Its properly (IP) rights for dolby and dts
I am currently assembling my Beovision Eclipse, and saw that it now decodes DTS HD, when was this change, have not noticed it been mentioned?
Beovision Harmony 77" 2nd Gen, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1, Beoplay M3, Beoplay Portal, Beoplay Earset, Beoliving Intelligence
How do you see that - and how about Dolby TrueHD?
Emil Jensen:I am currently assembling my Beovision Eclipse, and saw that it now decodes DTS HD, when was this change, have not noticed it been mentioned? Beolab 20, Beolab 17, Transmitter 1
There is a sticker on the soundcenter, I will upload later.
Yea it is good fun to assemble, I used the video guide on youtube, so it was straight forward.
I have done the same with my parents BV7 and Avant, but as they where much heavier we had to be two people.
The eclipse I could do by my self.
I know of that sticker - but, when DTS/HD, then why not Dolby/HD?
@ MM
Enough because Dolby / HD requires license payment. - DTS -X platform, is open and license-free .
Peter Pan:@ MM Enough because Dolby / HD requires license payment. - DTS -X platform, is open and license-free .
- Fidse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br8b-jTQ7IM
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In his younger days, yes!