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Dear Forum members,
first of all thanks for this fantastic forum, I have learned so much during the last few weeks by reading here and I understand that a silver membership includes the xml generator tool. As I am searching for a way to directly control the HUMAX receiver PR-HD3000C mentioned above without going through PUC functions, I searched for the Pronto codes quite a lot but could not find them. I have the B&O config tool, is there any way besides buying a hardware receiver to read the ir codes to integrate the device into my beo5? I do have a beovision 10-40" mk1, but no IR cable unfortunately and I cannot find a decent reseller around here to reconfig my tv (update PUC list).
I am also happy to pay for the silver membership if this will help me solving this issue.
Another option would be to pay for the xml itself, I hope this is not in conflict with any rule of this forum here?
Many thanks and best regards,
Jens
edit: i know about the RC6 codes here: http://archivedarchivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/t/43266.aspx
can they be used with the tool to create an xml for the receiver? thanks again!
Maybe anybody with an XML for the SKy S HD 3 or another HUMAX device?
Thanks and best regards,
BeoCologne:can they be used with the tool to create an xml for the receiver?
No you cannot do that.
There are several types of Philips RC6 protocol codes with and without a "Toggle" bit. The toggle bit is inverted each time up press the same button such as UP and DOWN so you cannot use RAW (captured image) because only the first press would work.
Sky uses RC6 with the toggle bit so the ONLY Beo5/6 encoding method you can use is "Bitstream" which allows for alternate button presses to send a different IR code..
In the XML stir string it you will need the undocumented AltSigWhenRepressed=1 to make this happen.
So a typical stIR string in bitstream format would be:-
stIR="UNKNOWN:Individual=1#IRSEQUENCE=BITSTREAM#BITS=101010010011100101010101010101100110011010101001010101100101010101010101011#ALTBIT=101010010011100101010101010101100110011010100101010101100101010101010101011#MARKFLANK=422#SPACEFLANK=443#SPACE2FLANK=0#PRESIGNALHI=2605#PRESIGNALLO=909#Pause1=69161#Pause2=69138#Carrier=36#REPEATSIGNAL=0#AltSigWhenRepressed=1#Comment=UNKNOWN 74bits"
Regards Keith....
Wow,
now that sounds complicated ;-)
Thanks a lot Keith, I really appreciate your help here!
I guess I would have never made it to find this out myself.
Many thanks again, I will try my luck with the bitstream string and hope it will work out somehow!
Many thanks and merry Xmas,
Unless you have written a programme, the time consuming part is converting the protocol binary string into BITSTREAM#BITS
Points to note are that the BITSTREAM#BITS do not include the protocol start bit because they are defined in PRESIGNALHI and PRESIGNALLO
So, #MARKFLANK and SPACEFLANK in my example is an average of the two of about 430 microseconds, so in the BITSTREAM#BITS there will be a 1 or 0 every 430 microseconds.
So, if you had an encoded pulse of 860 and pause of 1290 the converted Bitstream string would be 11000 where binary "1" is pulse time and binary "0" is pause or space time.
If you do not want to buy/use a Lintronic box for learning and copying IR codes to your computer, you can use another way to copy your remote.You need an old Pocket PC with IR port, software and time :-)This Pocket PC software:http://www.wincesoft.de/html/body_remotecontrol_ii.html#TesteddevicesHow-to:http://rungwald.dk/capturing-ir-codes-from-a-remote/remotecontrol-ii/how-to.html
optional:
Beo 5/6 iPad configuration software:http://rungwald.dk/get-the-app.html
Hi TWG,
many thanks!
I have downloaded the app for ipad 2 weeks and took a look into it.
Not sure if it supports Bitstream 100% though.
I will get an old MDA Vario with the Remote software today, so hopefully i will have everything working by end of the weekend.
Best regards,
Hi TWG and Keith,
I hope you had a wonderful Xmas!
I now made it to get the ipad app as well as an old pda using the remotecontrol software.
Almost everything works quite well now, except for the issues described above by Keith, all "zapping" buttons like ch +/- and vol +/- do only work once.
Is there any chance to get the bitstream commands with the alternate codes from the pronto codes? How could I make this work? Many thanks, best regards and a safe trip in 2014 everybody!
Does anybody have any idea how to get to Binary#Bits from the pronto codes?
Thanks a lot to everybody for your help!!
BeoCologne:Almost everything works quite well now, except for the issues described above by Keith, all "zapping" buttons like ch +/- and vol +/- do only work once.
Jens,
If you post the CH+/CH- and Vol+/- Pronto Hex codes you used, I will have a look at it for you.
BeoCologne: Does anybody have any idea how to get to Binary#Bits from the pronto codes? Thanks a lot to everybody for your help!! Best regards, Jens
I could convert the Pronto codes for you as well. We have a tool for that. Vol+ and Vol- are normally not learned, because we expect the (B&O) TV to control the volume.
The Bitstream codes for CH+ and CH- are as follows:
CH+
BITS=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010101011001011010010101011010101001BITS2=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010110011001011010010101011010101001
CH-
BITS=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101010101100101101001010101101010101BITS2=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101011001100101101001010101101010101
Best Regards,PJ
Hi Keith and PJ,
you guys rock, thanks so much!!!
@PJ: you are of course right regarding the vol +/- buttons, they are controlled by the wheel.
What I was searching for was the cursor buttons up/down/left/rightand the receivers internal audio volume (only optional).
Can I somehow get the codes out of the CT?
I will post the codes I have as soon as possible later today!
Many thanks again and keep up this great forum!!!
jens
Up
BITS=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010101011001011010010110011010010101BITS2=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010110011001011010010110011010010101
Down
BITS=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101010101100101101001011001101001011BITS2=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101011001100101101001011001101001011Left
BITS=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010101011001011010010110011010011001BITS2=1010100100111001010101010101011001011001010110011001011010010110011010011001
Right
BITS=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101010101100101101001011001101001101BITS2=101010010011100101010101010101100101100101011001100101101001011001101001101
Don't have Vol+ and Vol- as mentioned above.
THISISAWESOMENESS!
Thanks soo much PJ, I will try this as soon as I get home from work today.
This will hopefully make the beo5 work like a charm.
Thanks again for your help, highly appreciated!
Very best regards,
I have created a complete direct XML for you which is attached to this post for you to test.
It should be noted that whilst I pre-assigned the hard keys in this XML file, bitstream and RC5 does not send ALTBITS due to a software flaw which has never been fixed. For this reason I have put the UP, DOWN, LEFT and RIGHT commands on page 3 of the screen which should work correctly.
As PapaJustify stated, you don't normally need volume even for DIRECT control because you would control the TV volume whether it be B&O or 3rd party TV.
If you do need volume for your non B&O TV it can be added to the XML file.
A further note about IR protocols which uses a toggle bit, you must always use "BITSTREAM" to achieve the same results as the original remote control.
Below is the signal created by this remote when I press the DOWN button twice and you will notice that the device code and commands are the same, but the toggle in this RC6 protocol as indicated is inverted and will continue to be inverted on ever press of the same button.
now this is overwhelming!
There is no need for a contest here about who gives the better support ;-) Just kidding ;-)
Seriously, I am working a lot with lighting and techy forums and have never ever received such a great feedback and support in such a small time window.
Count me in as a paying member as soon as these bitstreams will work on the beo5 ;-)
Thanks again, i can only say wow!