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Hi All,
I have a Beovision 3 32" in my bedroom and would now like to use Apple TV etc and so am thinking about upgrading. I also have a Beosound 9000 and Beolab 9's connected to it, so this probably needs to be taken into consideration.
I'm after a TV with a picture better than my current. I was looking at either a Beovision 7 40 Mrk3/4 but also came across the Beoplay V1 and wondered what the general consensus is?
Is the Beoplay V1 any good or is it just a very entry level product? I know it doesn't have master link and this probably poses a problem when wanting to connect it to my equipment? Also, how does it compare to the Beovision 7 40" Mk3?
I apologise in advance for asking so many questions but any advice received would be appreciated.
Beosound Stage, Beovision 8-40, Beolit 20, Beosound Explore.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the response. The question then becomes how would i connect the TV to the Beosound 9000?
Hi all,
I'm now now considering doing the inconceivable, I would never uttered these words years ago but can't find an alternate solution which seems worthy.
i came across a samsung f8000 46" TV and found the picture to be truly stunning, I compared it to the V1 and it blows the V1 away, therefore I've decided not to purchase the V1. Also, I don't think a second life beovision 7 mk3/4 would fare much better. The only problem is I have a beosound 9000, beolab 9000's and a beolab 2. If I bought the Samsung (dreaded thought), how would I connect it to the equipment?
Has anyone else moved away from B&O screens and lived a fulfilled life? Lol
Thanks
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), no Subwoofer. Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096Dining Room: Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 4000 on stands, fed by Amazon Echo Show 8Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 1 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55Home Office: Beosystem 3, Beolab 7-4, Beolab 5000, Screen: Sony KD-55XH9005 on Beovision 7-40 stand, ML to Beosound 9000 MK3 and Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 (1 TB SSD version)Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
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londonguy: Hi all, I'm now now considering doing the inconceivable, I would never uttered these words years ago but can't find an alternate solution which seems worthy. i came across a samsung f8000 46" TV and found the picture to be truly stunning, I compared it to the V1 and it blows the V1 away, therefore I've decided not to purchase the V1. Also, I don't think a second life beovision 7 mk3/4 would fare much better. The only problem is I have a beosound 9000, beolab 9000's and a beolab 2. If I bought the Samsung (dreaded thought), how would I connect it to the equipment? Has anyone else moved away from B&O screens and lived a fulfilled life? Lol Thanks
How were you able to do that comparison....side-by-side? And what do you mean by "blows it away"?
The comparison wasn't side by side but the picture on the Samsung was clearly sharper, more detailed and a lot more vibrant. I
Which source was displayed?
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Compare them in store. I have never found the V1 picture anything other than nice or ordinary. I don't want it to be so, but find myself buying up Beovision 8's to fill the gap.
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Is it easy to integrate the samsung with Murphy current setup with out having to buy a separate receiver?
londonguy: The comparison wasn't side by side but the picture on the Samsung was clearly sharper, more detailed and a lot more vibrant. I
Two things, unless they were side by side on the same signal, it's hard to really tell. Plus, traditionally B&O sets haven't fared well in side by side demos because Beovisions are calibrated properly to be as film like as possible whereas most mass market sets are set to retina searing levels. Makes then pop when on the floor surrounded by other sets, makes them not a great set to watch a movie on. If you look at another brand get the remote and play with settings, odds are it'll be on Vivid or some such not Cinema.
FWIW I don't have a Beovision, but a Panasonic VT series 65 inch set that is just outstanding. Much cheaper than a Beovision 12 but not better really, about the same as they share glass. I'd probably give the nod to the Beovision 12 because of superior video processing, but it's incredibly close.
My video and audio systems are separate, B&O audio, other stuff for video.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
I agree with Jeff. My better half once worked in a radio and TV department and all the TV's were invariably set to run cartoon-like DVD's. Presumably BluRay now fulfills the same role. Broadcast Channels were rarely shown, partly because of the inferior quality to DVD's and partly because of city centre reception problems.
There's mention of the BV8 above in this thread. I very nearly bought a BV8 as a link TV but was warned-off by Matt at Lifestyle who advised that it would disappoint if used to receive an analogue signal from a main TV elsewhere.
Graham
It still surprises me when you go to some of these electrical mega stores and have the ability to compare 20 - 30 tv sets and see how different all the pictures are, even when it is the same make and different screen sizes.
One of my woes, and many of you B&O holics will understand is the lack of thought with the foot/pedestal design or lack of.
we tend to forget there is more to design than designing.
Note my signature!
If you buy a Samsung, you buy a tv.
If you buy a V1, you buy a BV.
It all depends on how much the Beo4 remotecontrolling, the integrated surround processor/preamp, the speakers (and the easy connection of your 9's), the 'auto-PUC-update-function' (for controlling external devices with the Beo4) etc, etc matters to you.
If you like a tv with a 'vibrant' display (at least in the shop) more than a BV, that has a picture one can look at for hours without getting tired, then go for a Samsung (or alike).
Hi Millemissen,
i don't think the Beo4 remote controlling is an issue anymore, the samsung has an infrared blaster to control the sky box, plus everything seems to be going the way of the iPad/tablet when it comes to controlling devices.
You're right I will loose the sound processor but as my bedroom is small I don't think I need surround sound. I will defineltey replace my main screen downstairs with a beovision 11 over the next few months but at the moment just want a temporary solution for the bedroom. Unfortunately I've not been swayed by the V1, on its looks which for me are ghastly and too industrial or on performance. Bang & Olufsen don't have anything else in the bedroom tv range to suite my needs.
I will investigate a second life beovision 7 40" and see if that plug the gap over the next few days. I hate to look at other brands but I guess it's no bad thing.
Looking forward to hear about your experiences with the bedroom Samsung
'Has anyone else moved away from B&O screens and lived a fulfilled life? Lol'
I did, some 3 years ago. Bought the most expensive samsung 46" I could get. Still glad I took that decision. Saved some 6000 Euro's compared to a 10-46, maybe more when you take the B&O built in HD tuner and stand into consideration. Those two options alone had almost the same price as my 8000-series Samsung. Next to this, the 10 was replaced by the 11, and MasterLink has been abandoned by B&O completely within a year after I made the decision. So I'm still really glad I didn't buy the 10-46 after all.
The Samsung is a very nice tv, has smart tv functions which became actually useful with the new youtube app, and with the Beo6 I can control it completely the same as it were a B&O. You can easily integrate it with B&O using a Cyp DAC and an Aux connection to Beosound or Sonos. But i agree, it will never become a B&O. Sometimes I think about upgrading to 55", and again, I'm comparing a Samsung with a B&O. Would really love to own a 11-55 but the price is just to high (for me any way).
regards,
Joost
BeoVision 11-55, BeoLab 8000, BeoRemote One BT, AppleTV 4, 2x BeoPlay A2, BeoPlay A1
vikinguk: There's mention of the BV8 above in this thread. I very nearly bought a BV8 as a link TV but was warned-off by Matt at Lifestyle who advised that it would disappoint if used to receive an analogue signal from a main TV elsewhere. Graham
BeoNut since '75
elephant:There's mention of the BV8 above in this thread. I very nearly bought a BV8 as a link TV but was warned-off by Matt at Lifestyle who advised that it would disappoint if used to receive an analogue signal from a main TV elsewhere.
I owned a BV8-32 for quite a while (two years?) as a slave TV. Yeah, it's ok. Picture was good, sound was good. Only problem I found with the BV8 was the lack of any glass in front of the LCD panel. Made it hard to clean, particularly when it's in the kitchen. The BV8 results in mixed feelings due to the design.
I now own a BV10-32 and haven't looked back - superb picture, audio, looks great, gets positive comments from everyone (literally, everyone) and is easy to keep clean.
Well i have to say after owning the Beovision 8-32 for a day, it is one of the best B&O purchases i have ever made.
I hate to say it, the wife and i much prefer the stand alone sound of this 8, over my nearly new 11. Effortless warm bass, and listening to Michael Buble(wifes choice) the "orchestra pit" really works. A big band sound.
The feet that allow it to tilt are one of those simple, but brilliant solutions.
That's great Chris, the design of the 8 is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the V1 in my opinion.
After having a look at both the B&O and Samsung in John Lewis and also visiting a couple of dealers, I'm still not sure as I believe the pic on the Samsung to be far better. I am warming to the easy integration of the V1 and also B&O's new matrix style of sharing of source content idea.
I shall think about it for a few more days before making the leap as I really don't want to make the wrong decision.
Recently, I decided with a heavy heart to retire my MX6000 to the bedroom and get a flat screen in the lounge.
I wanted to be able to view the interwebs service of our national broadcaster without any additional kit, and currently the only sure choice there is a Sony smart TV. The new BVs are out of my price range and I don't want to suffer something 2nd hand that is outdated from day 1 just because it is B&O.
Ended up with a 42W654. Built-in WiFi, quite stylish design with a thin brushed metal frame that fits great between my BL5000s, a very understated pedestal (yes, I hate those too in most Kikinoko flat screens!) that doubles as a wall mount once I decide on the final position. DVB-T2 tuner so I don't need to dump it as soon as the HD broadcasts finally arrive, and the picture engine is high-end for the price since they left out 3D and all such crap. And while waiting for that, truly brilliant SD picture! (there's a lot to configure and the shop settings might not be the best)
The drawbacks: very average internal sound - as expected, not an issue as I connected it to the BS6500 right away (the audio out is configurable for variable / fixed output with internal speakers on or off, quite exemplary). And obviously the plastic remote, which I will remedy with some programming as soon as I have time. Connectivity is limited with 2 x HDMI and only one USB port (which can be used for recording, a feature that works well). It could be a bit less picky on what file formats it plays, even though it runs Linux...
The smart features are OK and seem to be supported as well; in two months, the TV has downloaded at least three software updates and every time something got noticeably better. I'm very happy with it and would buy it again. Available also in 32" and 50" with slightly different features.
Can't argue against getting any of the new gen Beovisions if you can afford them, especially if you want integration. But if you're considering the <1000 euro TVs, do check out the Sony W6 as well.
--mika