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I' ve noticed that an AV dealer is selling Beocom 2's on eBay as brand new but about £150 off list price (with charger and base station). Oddly, they are asking a lot extra for a guarantee and that seems to be something of a con if genuinely new.
Another well known second life dealer (not Lifestyle) seems to also have 'Brand New' Beocom 2's on his website. Does anyone know why new Beocom 2's should be appearing on the market outside the official dealership network?
Graham
If it's the same company that I noticed, the extra cost warranty is for the second and third years - the eBay listing advises that there's a one year warranty included. Still curious as to how new ones appear outside the dealer network
Double post - impatient fingers...
Hi, am happy to answer this - just as every used Dealer sources pre-owned products in the main, there are occasions when brand new unused goods become available and are completely legitimate purchases.
I recently sold a brand new Beovision 7-55 3D with floor stand and speaker won on from a SKY Gadget Geeks show which every other Company was bidding on but not quite enough, many of the brand new products are insurance claims where the recipient wants to 'cash in.' In some instances Dealers in Europe have shut done and held back stock to release cash.
I guess it must be frowned upon to mention 'Another well-known second life dealer' i.e. morethanAV on this forum. I don't deliberately remove serial numbers from multiple products sold to different customers like another well-known Company that professes to be saintly, everything I sell is completely legitimate and has a paper-trail from whom sourced.
Well, I did consider links to More Than and to the eBay seller!
I guess one of my queries is that if something really is brand new, then doesn't the normal B&O guarantee apply? Is it three years?
B&O dealers themselves are not consistent on this: I've bought ex demo from a main dealer and got a three year guarantee, yet other main dealers on the B&O website sell ex demo with short guarantees, or even brand new with expired B&O guarantees but a local dealer 6 or 12 month guarantee.
KingOfSnake: Hi, am happy to answer this - just as every used Dealer sources pre-owned products in the main, there are occasions when brand new unused goods become available and are completely legitimate purchases. I recently sold a brand new Beovision 7-55 3D with floor stand and speaker won on from a SKY Gadget Geeks show which every other Company was bidding on but not quite enough, many of the brand new products are insurance claims where the recipient wants to 'cash in.' In some instances Dealers in Europe have shut done and held back stock to release cash. I guess it must be frowned upon to mention 'Another well-known second life dealer' i.e. morethanAV on this forum. I don't deliberately remove serial numbers from multiple products sold to different customers like another well-known Company that professes to be saintly, everything I sell is completely legitimate and has a paper-trail from whom sourced.
What exactly has the 3rd paragraph of this answer got to do with the original question? You answered the OP quite well & just couldn't resist having your usual (boring) dig could you? BTW - that comment looks particularly slanderous to me which is probably why you have bottled out at simply alluding to who you mean.
It seems impossible for you to give an answer to anything on Beoworld without there being some ulterior motive.
Chris.
I wonder how many resellers are hidden behind those "nicknames" on Beoworld.
I know 2 companies now and that's Graham with Beo4life and Lee's Lifestyle AV. Who are all the others?
Brengen & Ophalen
Hmmm
Aha, another one, Jason from Iconic-AV
Hi Leslie,
You are on dangerous territory here! I seem to recall that one of my earliest posts on the previous forum was about on-line second life B&O sellers, and a complaint about the lack of response from some of them to a request that I'd either emailed or where I had filled-in an on-line request. I quickly found out who was who, having blundered into an area where I'd had no idea, at that time, about the ownership of Beoworld or the tensions between dealers.
There are also official dealers who post regularly, some making clear which dealer they are, some preferring to post privately.
No one has yet explained the guarantee issue raised earlier in this thread.
Hi Graham,
Dangerous territory on such a friendly and for everyone in public "open to read" site like Beoworld?
Thought I already smelled some competition over here....
Still I'm curious who owns what and if they don't want to react, so be it!
Who would remove serial numbers from B&O products?
For example in America, it's prohibited in most of the states to sell or even possess goods that had their serial number destroyed, removed, altered, concealed. Can't imagine a proper seller would act like that, in any part of the world.
One seller crosses my mind, a well known one, they stick little labels right on to the label of any b&o product, if you try to remove them, you remain with a damaged label...
Leslie: Aha, another one, Jason from Iconic-AV
And another one, Simon from Ava Services Ltd. Very nice chap! He's a member but forgot his nickname!