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Arcam AirDac

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futuristbeo Posted: Sun, Jan 26 2014 12:20 AM

Has anyone out there got an Arcam AirDac yet. I purchased one and have tried connecting it to my Beolab 5's, using the digital out. The lights show that it is working and that the Airplay is connected, but I'm not getting any sound from the speakers. Anyone have any suggestions?

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jk1002 replied on Sun, Jan 26 2014 5:01 AM

Is the airplay generally  working on your network?

 

my router had a feature activated called AP Isolation. the Airport devices would show up and I could connect but nothing would play.. It blocks essentially all network between the devices on the network, 

 

if airplay is generally working on your network that's not it

 

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I figured out what I was doing wrong, so all is well!! The Arcam Airdac sounds fantastic, if anyone is interested. 

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I figured out what I was doing wrong, so all is well!! The Arcam Airdac sounds fantastic, if anyone is interested. 

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Just curious - could you please share what was wrong?

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ari replied on Mon, Jan 27 2014 1:55 PM

yes please share what was wrong!

also, does this have noticeably better quality over a plain Apple TV or Airport Express?

And how have you hooked it up to your BeoLab 5's, making it trigger them on automatically?

 

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I was previously using B & O equipment, so when I did the new set up, I forgot that I actually had to turn the speakers on for them to work. So pretty simple fix and all is working fine now.

I have my Beolab 5's connected directly to the AirDac using the digital out and I am playing music through Spotify using my iPad. The quality is exceptional. Not sure how it would compare to playing over Apple TV or Airport Express as I have not had experience with that, but I can tell you that the sound quality is definitely far better than using a Playmaker.

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ari replied on Mon, Jan 27 2014 8:20 PM

Now that is interesting! (the comparison with Playmaker)


I would have thought the Playmaker would have had B&O quality DAC integrated?

Tell me, when connected via Digital Out on the AirDac, are you not bypassing the internal DAC of the AirDac and using the internal DAC on the BeoLab 5's?

This is what makes me think such:

We started with the company's $249 rBlink Bluetooth streamer, which has a built-in DAC that can be bypassed (via a coaxial digital output) if so desired.

Link: http://www.soundstageglobal.com/index.php/company-tours/arcam-september-18-19-2013/425-arcam-s-superb-streamers-and-dacs


Can someone explain to me, or point me in the right direction, as to what exactly this device does and how it benefits the sound quality, as opposed to something like the Playmaker.

Thanks

 

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That's right the DAC in the AirDAC isn't used. It only seem to be used for AirPplay.

An AirPlay base station has a digital output as well, so I suppose the sound would be just as good.

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AirPlay is AirPlay - if you use the dig-out, every AirPlay device does the same.

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If you want to compare the AirDAC with the Playmaker, you would have to use the analog-out's of both devices, since the Playmaker has no dig-out.

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ari replied on Mon, Jan 27 2014 8:49 PM

well now i'm confused even more :D "It only seems to be used for AirPlay"?

Is the AirDac in this setup (connected to BeoLab 5's) via Digital Out  (AirDac) --> Digital In (BeoLab 5) using it's internal DAC, or simply passing digital signal to the BeoLab 5's to process with its internal DAC?

I thought this is what's happening:

iPhone/iPad/iPod/iTunes Audio ------ [digital over WiFi/AirPlay] -----> AirDac ------digital [over Digital Out Cable SPDIF] ----> BeoLab 5.

BeoLab 5 uses internal DAC to convert this digital signal to analogue to play over the speakers.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong so I can understand the point of the AirDac here in this setup, other than an AirPlay receiver.

The same could be achieved with an Airport Express via Digital TOSLINK out to the BeoLab 5's?

Thanks

 

 

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@ari - it is just an AirPlay receiver.

The internal DAC is not used.

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ari replied on Mon, Jan 27 2014 8:54 PM

Thanks for clearing that up.

Seems like an expensive AirPlay receiver when used in this setup :) Airport express also has digital out and is less than fifth of the price :D

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That's right!

But you can connect two digital sources to it in addition to the AirPlay function.

"The airDAC uses an automatic input selection determined by which source is playing.

The order of priority (from first to last) is AirPlay, Coaxial and finally Optical."

If you need that (e.g. for a good CD player), it can make sense to spend the extra money.

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ari replied on Mon, Jan 27 2014 9:09 PM

I see now!

Thanks Big Smile

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