Optical sound from Apple TV to Beomaster 3/ Beovision 9

Hello,

I need to connect my apple Tv sound out true optical audio. How can I connect this to the beomaster 3 / beovision 9 without using an HDMI cable?

Hi Andreas,

first of all you will need a converter - optical to coax - dor the sound.

You should try connecting the ATV so and use AirPlay to test it.

If it was not set up at all, you - of cource  - will have to configure it via the screen menu before you can use it.

And for that you will need a HDMI connection

MM

Thanks for responding.

I understand the part where I need a sound converter from optical to coax. 

There must be an normal AUX-in on even Beomaster 3 or Beovision 9? A normal sound input?

I need the sound from Apple TV, but is there not any sound input on the TV og bm3?

Why not use a hdmi? 

That would be the best thing to do - but Andreas wanted to do it without HDMI.

The BV9 has (if my memory serves me well) got 5 x SPDiF - so lots of sound inputs there?

And no need for using an analog input (which would require an external DAC for the ATV).

But - I am curious too: why not just use a HDMI?

N.B. I guess Andreas means: BeoSystem 3, not BeoMaster 3!

MM

I have a projector connected about 15m away. And the DVI display 2 not working (Warning, content is protectet, select another sourse). And I try to use an HDMI splitter, but its not strong enough, because the hdmi cabel are 15m away. So the solution now, it to connect an second Apple TV by the projector, but I need to use my speaker on the Beovision 9 to get any sound. Therefore, I need to conect the Digital sound-output from the Apple TV, and connect it to tv. The question is how??

Did you resolve the warning issue? If it's due to an HDMI cable issue exceeding 10m then use a decent Chord Active 15m cable over this distance.

Thanks for many good answers. 

Ok, this is the situation: 

My DVI port on Display 2 would not work on my projector, I still got the "warning content is protected, select another source" message. So I bought a 15m HDMI cable, and also a HDMI splitter. My plan was to splitt the picture from the Apple TV, to then the Beovision 9, and the projector. Then I could "picture mute" Beovision 9, and still got sound from the speaker, as well as picture from the projector. Then 2 new problems appears: 

1: the HDMI cable was to long, and did not work. But there is 15 meters between the tv and the projector, so this cable must be this long. 

2: the HDMI splitter was not strong enough, so the split did not work.... back to scratch again...

Millemissen: my plan now is to bay another Apple TV, this I can place just close to the projector. Then I have picture. I just need sound. And the speaker I would like to use is the speaker on my Beovision 9. 

I can use a HDMI, but how? 

I did not know that this SPDiF was sound inputs, but you are correct, there is 5 of them on my Beosystem 3 (not Beomaster). So the easiest thing for me would be to just bay an SPDiF cable, I can connect from the Apple TV to the Beosystem 3, and then I can get sound from Apple TV to my TV?

Looking forward to read your answer, I am about to flip out here ;)

Big thanks!

 

No need to 'flip out'.

For HDMI over longer distances you usually need an extender (HDCP compliant) - and you then run the signal over a cat/network cabel.

Something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-B126-1P0-Passive-Extender/dp/B003VXV8G8/ref=pd_sim_e_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1C5SPJR1FBDJEH3AE403

There are a lot others out there!

You might also try to place the ATV in between the BV9 and the projector, which - theoretically - would give you 4 meter HDMI and 4 meter Coax (for the sound) cable.

Note! If you want multichannel sound, you will need the digital connection, as a RCA connection only carries 2 channel audio.

But I still can't believe that the DVI-out of the BV9 should not be able to output the ATV!

Have you tried to connect It (the DVI from the BV) to another display with HDMI-port? Just to see if the projector might cause the problem!

Which connections does your projector have? Which ones did you try?

Does the DVI to projector work with 'another source' e.g. tv?

MM

 

There will not be possible to place the Apple TV between them, because there is an tube between the projector and the tv, and this is inside the wall. 

I now also understand that a digital audio cable just can be at the maximum 10m. So this is not an option. But what you say, its possible to get sound with digital audio cable from ATV to SPDiF?

I have also been in contact with Bang Olufsen customer service. This say this warning thing, is an problem they have using HDMI, and what can solve it is to install a small HDMI box on the HDMI cable between the STB and the TV. such as "Atlona AT-HDSync". 

I have try to connect the DVI on BV9 also to other HDMI display, as playstation, Digital TV-box. The same problem. When I connect it to the analog signal "TV" it works fine. So it is for sure there must be something with the HDMI. 

But then I will need to install an HDMI extender and run the signal over network cable. And then to get sound I need to use an digital audio cable from Apple TV to SPDiF on for example AV6 on beosystem 3? Then I need to configure the CAMERA on Beo4, and the picture mute?

Will this work?

 

First thing - the advice from the costumers service to use the small Atlona device to avoid HDCP and EDID problems, is actually quite good.

If you dig into that subject, you might find a solution to your problems.

These hardware (HDCP/EDID) emulators are avaible from different companies - usually B&O suggests the Atlona devices, since they are working (and testing) with their products = a good company.

If you could get this working, you would have a much smoother setup.

Just order the one you require (from Amazon or similar), test it and keep it - or send it back if it does not work well!

I suppose that you are interesting in controlling your ATV with the Beo4 (highly recommended - this will only be possible if it is connected to the BV9 directly.

 

If you want to continue the other route, just connect the coax cable (coming from the digital sond-output of the ATV via optical to coax converter) to any free input on the BV9. You will have to configure that you use the digital sound input - see the BV9/BSys3 userguide for further information on howto.

By the way - do you/or did you have another HDMI device such as a Bluray player connected to the BV9?

And how does it respond if you try outputting on the DVI-out?

 

P.S. Your name sounds german (or are you from the Netherlands)! If you prefer writing in german, feel free to do so. That it no problem.

 

MM

AndreasWiik:

I have also been in contact with Bang Olufsen customer service. This say this warning thing, is an problem they have using HDMI, and what can solve it is to install a small HDMI box on the HDMI cable between the STB and the TV. such as "Atlona AT-HDSync". 

All Beovisions that are qualified as HDready or FullHD can decode HDCP. So I’m surprised they came up with a solution you should try first. This would be the least I would try, and probably not at all! 

Did you checkmark these HDCP-related issues:

- Bad or cheap hdmi cable

- DVI-to-HDMI adapter (on Display 2) that doesn’t support HDCP

- Does your projector support HDCP?

Don’t start with hdmi-splitters, convertors for spdif, PS-adapters to feed these things, digital cables and what not. If you can make it work from Display 2 to another screen with hdmi-port over a few meters, then a device that transports HDMI (DVI Display 2, BV9) over UTP should have the exact same result.

DoubleU:

All Beovisions that are qualified as HDready or FullHD can decode HDCP. So I’m surprised they came up with a solution you should try first. This would be the least I would try, and probably not at all!

Did you checkmark these HDCP-related issues:

- Bad or cheap hdmi cable

- DVI-to-HDMI adapter (on Display 2) that doesn’t support HDCP

- Does your projector support HDCP?

Don’t start with hdmi-splitters, convertors for spdif, PS-adapters to feed these things, digital cables and what not. If you can make it work from Display 2 to another screen with hdmi-port over a few meters, then a device that transports HDMI (DVI Display 2, BV9) over UTP should have the exact same result.

I agree with this, do not invest in additional cables just yet.

I do recall when the BeoVision 10 40" launched we had a BeoVision 7 next to it and I experimented. I used a 5m HDMI cable and DVI adaptor and pressed Format 0 to have a black screen appear with the same message. I sw updated the BeoVision 7 and it then worked, there was definitely an issue with one of the low builds for the BeoSystem 3 family.

I would speak to a local dealer and book a service call out and ask them to bring high quality HDMI cable and DVI adaptor to see if the sw update works, it will be the most cost effective to start with as this is a MKI bvis9 here which probably hasn't been updated.

Andreas when you go into the B&O TV menu what colour is the background and is it central on the screen? If so the build is very low and worth updating.