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The New Avant is a Great TV..Can anyone help/tell me how to connect a projector to the tv as I am running a Projector as well as a tv in my system and would love the new Avant.....
In the Avant user guide is says this about the Matrix which can The HDMI Matrix itself is aphysical product that can be connected allowing you to connect up to 32 external sources to up to 32 televisions indifferent rooms and access the sources either individually from each TV or simultaneously from several rooms via BeoRemote One. It is also stated that....The puc tables are available for many other brand products such as Projectors,dvd players ect. Does that mean the Matrix on the back of the tv gives a Picture Out and you just Blank the Screen with Picture Mute????
The HDMI Matrix itself is aphysical product that can be connected allowing you to connect up to 32 external sources to up to 32 televisions indifferent rooms and access the sources either individually from each TV or simultaneously from several rooms via BeoRemote One.
It is also stated that....The puc tables are available for many other brand products such as Projectors,dvd players ect.
Does that mean the Matrix on the back of the tv gives a Picture Out and you just Blank the Screen with Picture Mute????
Hi there
when I spoke to a dealer they told me it won't be possible which was a shame as I am in the same situation as you.
It will be a real shame if beo living has been dropped
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I stand corrected it appears there will be a matrix that allows 32 inputs and outputs to allow video dist.
it would Also appear there can be NL ML audio distribution.
it does say the HDMI matrix has to be installed by a dealer.
If so then I will have to think if its Bie Bie B and O as I have had their stuff for 32 years.....
Just seen your other post theres Hope Yet
Seanie depends how much will be? And like you I only want one output maybe two at the most...
I think the lack of information really puts people off. Like you I only need at most 4 outputs at the most ever.
The HDMI-Matrix is for distributing external sources to each BV in a setup.
As far as I am informed none of the HDMI's of the new Avant can be used for outputting the content from the tv..
Only the BSys4 as standalone has this feature - you will have to add a switch to the HDMI-out of it , and the system needs a SW-update from a dealer to do it.
The explanation for the lack of the HDMI-outs on the tv's is simple - it is not needed with a tv with 55" and upwards anymore.
Besides - very few people are asking for that (the Cinema Solution) today. If they need a projector and a bigger screen, they built a seperate Cinema Room around the BSys4.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
I was informed but hope wrong as the Bs4 was on it's way out???? Because of the bigger screen sizes but not everyone can afford 15 to 22k for a tv.
The 55 Avant and the Bs4 is within reach for most people who are willing to pay.....
My Diller said you could connect a Projekt from avant, it is based on beosystem 4 platform
'based on beosystem 4 platform' and the BSys4 as stand-alone is not the same.
Please do ask him for details - and don't forget to post them here.
That video can not be distributed, is not because B&O don't want to do that.
It is because the distribution is too restricted through copyright, HDCP protection etc.
This actually goes for some audio sources too e.g. Spotify in some cases.
I don't worry much about that!
Video and music from a network source (NAS, PC, BM5) can be distributed (DLNA) to any local receiver anway - and AirPlay does an excelent job too.
Video and music from streaming services can be received on any local (modern) BV and probably on the future audiosystem too.
Many tv provider/broadcaster offer a complete online archive.
If you need the physcical disc, just buy a second (or third) premium Bluray player - that will come much cheaper than a Matrix solution.
But not a restriction you can blame B&O for!
Millemissen:But not a restriction you can blame B&O for!MMThere is a tv - and there is a BV.
Raeuber: But if I record a program from HD module to a harddrive connected to the new Avant, I can only watch this video on this Avant. No way to watch it on another Beovision, also not possible to copy it to a NAS or another harddrive or burn a DVD/Bluray. The harddrive is paired with the Avant and if you disconnect it from the Avant, you have no access to the recordings anymore. I know this is the same with many TVs from other brands, but for me this is an unacceptable restriction.
But if I record a program from HD module to a harddrive connected to the new Avant, I can only watch this video on this Avant. No way to watch it on another Beovision, also not possible to copy it to a NAS or another harddrive or burn a DVD/Bluray. The harddrive is paired with the Avant and if you disconnect it from the Avant, you have no access to the recordings anymore. I know this is the same with many TVs from other brands, but for me this is an unacceptable restriction.
Unacceptable? Unfortunately you don’t make the rules. There is a good reason all these brands don’t do what you want. For B&O and all the other brands, with internal DVB, it’s more important to get their certifications from providers from different countries. Can you record all channels from Sky? I thought they work with CI+ too. Maybe this doesn’t apply to Germany, but there are more countries to deal with.
Only one thing you are right. It has nothing to do with hdcp.
Raeuber: Millemissen: But not a restriction you can blame B&O for! MM Why not? With my external receiver (Technisat ISIO) I don't have any restrictions with recordings. The mentioned restrictions have nothing to do with HDCP restrictions.
Millemissen: But not a restriction you can blame B&O for! MM
Why not? With my external receiver (Technisat ISIO) I don't have any restrictions with recordings. The mentioned restrictions have nothing to do with HDCP restrictions.
You are telling me/us that you can watch the (HD) recordings, you have made on your Technisat, via DLNA on another tv on your network???
Hey Guys calm down!This is the same for BV11/V1/Avant. They are all based on the BS4 platform in one way or another. First of all. The V1 and separate BS4 has five input HDMI and BS4 has one output hdmi. Avant and BV11 has six inputs. PERHAPS one of them can be switched to output instead (bi-directional perhaps). In the manual for both BV11 and Avant we can see a few ports that are not in use "for future use" such as: CTRL 1-2, MONITOR CONTROL, EXT. IR. One of these (MONITOR CONTROL for example) might just as well be a HDMI output in a RJ45-connector to avoid confusion.Too me it sounds like things that could be used for perhaps an external monitor (such as a projector). I also want the possiblity to add a projector somehow sometime without the need for expensive HDMI-MATRIX or other products but I guess a projector could run on its own too. Apple TV + Projector and sound out to the BV?
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I am completely calm!
The discussion about distributing video in a BeoLink Network - I know it - is a bit off-topic
Maybe we (I, Räuber and others) should make another thread about this some day?
The main question in this thread however is: 'where did the Cinema options with the new tv's go'
Surely - as Michael describes - there are some 'unknown ports' in the panels of the V1/BV11/Avant, but we have no hints at all for what they might be used for.
Only thing that is known, is that the HDMI-out port on the (stand-alone) BSys4 can be used with a switch solution and some bits of software (that have to be loaded extra into the BSys4) for Dual-display purpose - means a monitor and a projector. But since there are no B&O-monitor anymore, this is a solution that won't be talked much about in the shops anymore.
We can only wait to see if anything 'new' comes up in the future.
And as of today the solution with a source (BRP or AppleTV....) connected directly to the projector, and the sound going to the BV, will be what is possible.....
.....if you want a bigger screen than the 55" (or more in future versions) the Avant can offer.
If you want to distribute recorded content on all your Beovisions, you have 2 solutions :
- Go to the catchup TV app (if it exists) : in France, almost any program is available 7 days (or even 14) after diffusion.
- Or use a NAS that is compatible with TV sticks : my Synology can do that : if I use the Synology to record a program, this program is available on any DLNA device (TVs, Phones, iPad, computers)...
Audio and video distribution is not a matter of Beolink or Netlink anymore, it's just data in your home network.
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And now back to topic : the projector output of the Avant.
It is always possible to do like I do with my BV8 : I use a 4x2 switch (Atlona) where all devices are connected. So any external source is available for the videoprojector. Using the BeoRemote One, it is even more easy to use it : you can use a program button to switch to the blu ray player and send a P. Mute command...
But this is only half a solution : in my BV8, there is no integrated media player, I use an external device... But in the Avant you can do a lot of this with integrated sources... Not being able to send this integrated sources to a "monitor output" is quite sad, as it's very little (and simple digital) electronics that is needed to do that.
Millemissen:You are telling me/us that you can watch the (HD) recordings, you have made on your Technisat, via DLNA on another tv on your network??? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
if you put a switch in front of your Avant you will miss things like the menu and the on screen display. The Avant tuner you can't user either.
I am happy for the people who do not need this. They can go right ahead and buy an amazing TV... Others can hope for a mk. something with an hdmi out or buy the stand alone Beosystem 4.
I wonder how few missed sales it takes to make this a bad decision...