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Screen cleaning LED/LCD and plasma screens - who uses what?

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Dave Farr
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Dave Farr Posted: Wed, Oct 8 2014 7:39 PM

I know this has been discussed before and B&O say to use a 'mild detergent' but I've tried and tried that and it simply does not work on my screens - I always end up with smears or streaks.

I've recently started using a screen cleaner made by Philips for these screens (no alcohol in it to affect the antireflective surface) and I have to say it works brilliantly.  It contains water, anionic tensod, anti-static and alkyl acrylate crosspolymer.  Spray it on from the bottle and wipe off with the provided cloth.  It's the only thing I've got to work properly.

Does anyone use anything similar or is the grime and dust here in France different to where you are and makes it especially difficult to remove?

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Paul W replied on Wed, Oct 8 2014 7:52 PM

Hi Dave,

When I had my apartment in Albert Dock, Liverpool, I had a BV6. I tried every glass cleaner and LCD screen cleaner and they all lead to streaking. The BV6 glass seemed to get dirty and grimy pretty quickly, whether that was from the river right outside my apartment or the city air, I don't know. The best cleaner I ever had was simple - a glasses cloth and with a spot of warm water on it. I clean my MacBook screen this way and found zero streaking :)

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Breath and a micro fibre cloth.

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rxcohen replied on Wed, Oct 8 2014 10:09 PM

I have been using something called screen kleen (screenkleen.com) with a micro fibre. I initially got it from B&O here in the US. It does a good job at cleaning both the glass and the aluminium on the BV11

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I have consistently found Monster Brand plasma screen cleaner and the accompanying cloth to give streak-free results when used with care on my BV9, BV8-32; BV 10-32 and BS 5
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markiedee:

Breath and a micro fibre cloth.

Lots of heavy breathing for a big screen - I'd be passing out!

Interesting to note that most of us are using a form of microfibre cloth which B&O normally say to avoid as some types can be too abrasive and damage the coatings.  I know we have some at home for normal household dusting and they stick to my fingers and feel a bit 'scratchy' so I won't use those. The one with the cleaner I got feels really soft as is the one from B&O I guess.

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I also have the philips one you were talking about, but also use breath and a micro fibre cloth in places. I also have a range of different micro fibre cloths.

I know exactly what one your talking about i have one like that to, it also feels like it sticks to your hand i use that one alongside a fluffy duster to clean behind my tv with a really soft lint free chammie type micro fibre cloth to clean the front of the constrast screen on my tv with amazing results.

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markiedee:
I know exactly what one your talking about i have one like that to, it also feels like it sticks to your hand

I detest it!  It feels like it's trying to stick little pins into my skin - it gives me the creeps.  It's like those tree seeds with spikes that stick to your clothes (or the dog!) and can never get off.  I've got a wetsuit I've been wearing recently (don't ask!) that's covered in them and I can't get them off.

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Mark replied on Thu, Oct 9 2014 9:27 AM

my wife decided to get a cleaner in to assist and I ended up giving her a list of items NOT to clean.... sure you can guess what the list consisted of....

(I too use the hot breath and a great cloth supplied by LuxusSound)

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markiedee:

Breath and a micro fibre cloth.

Yes but few glasses šljivovica before Wink

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Dave Farr replied on Thu, Oct 9 2014 10:30 AM

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markiedee:

Breath and a micro fibre cloth.

Yes but few glasses šljivovica before Wink

Ah, but then you're putting alcohol on the screen.  Best not do that too often (drink it by all means as often as you like but don't breathe it on the screen!).  Can it peel paint too?

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Puncher replied on Thu, Oct 9 2014 11:53 AM

I'm not sure how you make certain to get the correct grade of microfibre cloth but my Panasonic plasma had one in the box when new and it works a treat.

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I never get streaks. Use cold water with mild detergent not hot. Hot or warm gives streaks. Cold does not. And not too much soap.

Then with soft cloth dry off.

All good.
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Dave Farr replied on Sat, Oct 11 2014 10:36 AM

Aussie Michael:
I never get streaks. Use cold water with mild detergent not hot. Hot or warm gives streaks. Cold does not. And not too much soap.

 

 

Then with soft cloth dry off.

 

 

All good.

I think that's usually enough but not knowing the history of my screens, I don't think they'd been done for a while with a decent detergent.  Once they are thouroughly cleaned I think it's easier to give them a refresh each week with no streaking.  When they are really dirty they do streak more.

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If you are going to use soap, I suggest Dawn dish soap, as its pH is kinder.

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chartz replied on Sat, Oct 11 2014 1:05 PM

I use a mixture of slightly soapy Volvic water and isopropyl alcool (10% or thereabouts). 

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Dave Farr replied on Sat, Oct 11 2014 1:43 PM

chartz:

I use a mixture of slightly soapy Volvic water and isopropyl alcool (10% or thereabouts). 

Hi Jacques,

I'm sure it works but B&O specifically say to not use any IPA.  I assume they feel it affects the anti-reflective coating over time.  I'm not prepared to risk it.

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Dave Farr replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 4:33 PM

Just to resurrect this thread and update:

I've just spent over an hour trying to clean my BV7-55 and used all of the methods above (minus the vodka) and got really poor results.  There was a type of residue/smearing so I bit the bullet and tried something.

I've got one of those Karcher vacuum window cleaning things with a big, soft rubber squeegy thing on it.  I sparingly used the Karcher window cleaning fluid diluted as they suggest for windows and immediately vacuumed it off.  Result, an absolutely streak and smear free, shiny screen.  I wish I'd thought of it sooner.  Quick dust off to finish with a soft clothy and I'm happy again.

If anyone else tries this, I take no responsibility for any damage to your screen!  However, the rubber is so soft I think it's safe.

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 5:06 PM
I use a cleaner I purchased from a B and O dealer. Have no idea what is in it. Bottle says B and O on it.

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riverstyx replied on Tue, Mar 24 2015 7:55 PM

I use "Strand TFT/LCD screen cleaner" and it is excellent. I first discovered it in ASDA supermarket in the UK but they no longer sell it.

It seems I was not the only one to discover this stuff though as apparently LifestyleAV use it, have sourced it direct from the manufacturer, and also sell it on ebay - three bottles for 20GBP plus postage, although when I ordered I was sent a box containing four bottles (shhhh, don't tell Lee Wink).

I think the AR coatings must vary, as my BV7-40 is much more difficult to clean than any of my other Beovisions. I usually use the breath then wipe method for minor fingerprints etc, but if I tried to clean the entire screen this way I'd probably pass out...

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Hi i have spend a lot of time cleaning B&o screens.

And I see three elements in a good result

-the cloth

-the solvent

-the process

Cloth:

Use some washed soft cotton clothe (do not use fabric softener!)

Do never use microfiber stuff it will damage the coating over time.

Solvents (or rather non):

I use some hot water, as hot you can take, wring up the cloth.

(If the screen is very dirty us a small drop of dish soap).

The process:

Use the wet and a dry cloth at the same time.

The trick is to wipe of the water with the dry cloth as fast as possible to ensure the the water on the screen does not have time to evaporate.

Divided the screen in to 1/4 and take a area at the time.

This is the best way and you don't need to spend money on spray and other solvents...

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Hiort replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 11:45 AM
Got this from my dealer. It's like a foam you spray on and wipe off with the cloth that is included. Expensive. About 30 euro. Works perfectly though.Smile

 

 

 

 

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Dave Farr replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 12:18 PM

The key seems to be not allowing anything to dry on the screen through evaporation.  A foam will achieve this if taken off fairly quickly and so does my 'Karcher' squeegie method.  I'm afraid using breath on a 55" screen is a non-starter as I'd pss out within a few minutes.  At 30€ for the foam, I'll stick with the detergent/glass cleaner and Karcher.

Thanks for the replies.

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Amazone replied on Thu, Mar 26 2015 1:20 PM

Dave Farr:
The key seems to be not allowing anything to dry on the screen through evaporation.

Probably true. I use the exact same technique as Mekaniker, with only a clean cotton dishcloth/towel and clean water. As instructed by the installer when he delivered my BV. Also with very good results.

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