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Dear members,
is it possible that lids of stackable system components placed at the bottom deform over time when placing all four components one over another due to the accumulated weight?
Greetings,
Kai
Depends in which order you stack them. From top to bottom, turntable, tapedeck, CD and master?
Brengen & Ophalen
Unlikely, unless the rubber feet are missing - and even then not very likely.
Martin
And I can add, that those rubber feets are placed in the sides, so there's no weight in the middle part of the components, when stacked.Plus the top of the covers are reinforced with metal - they are actually quite heavy. So - no they do not deform.
The only part that can deform is the lid (dust cover) on the Beogram. I have seen a few that were slightly bend down in the rear middle part -probably because an MCP has been placed on top of it.
I have a double stack of Beo 5000s
i.e. two amps, a CD, and two tape units, and a BG
no deformation after several years
BeoNut since '75
Nope not here either.
Only the Beogram 6500 but only slightly. The rest of the system is cool though.
I do use the B&O attyca 1 so that Beogram 6500 stands alone on the left.
I currently have 4 units to the right still as my Beocord 5500 workhorse works! The 6500 I still have to send to Dillen for service due to noise. It is at the bottom in the stack.
I'm not afraid of the lid getting bent in the middle, which is often the case for the Beograms. More that the side parts of the lids get out of alignment over time which will be most visible when looking at them from the front.
Manbearpig: I'm not afraid of the lid getting bent in the middle, which is often the case for the Beograms. More that the side parts of the lids get out of alignment over time which will be most visible when looking at them from the front. Greetings, Kai
Unless someone sits on them I don't think there is any way the side panels will bow outwards on these stackable systems. I have several stacking systems and in no way have any shown any sign of side panel disttortion. They get moved whilst cleaning and look out of line but I just push them back to true again - I must admit I use a steel rule to ensure they are aligned from top to bottom sometimes! I get obsessive like that occasionally.
Dave.
Not in my experience.
Regards Graham
Only the tape deck in my experience,and this is reinforced with a steel plate too!!! The plate seems to break away from it's plastic mountings and foul on the drawer,so stopping it moving in/out
But it's usually due to "stacking error" as mentioned by other's,ie,the Beomaster should be at the bottom,then tape deck,cd player and turntable above in that order.
solderon29: Only the tape deck in my experience,and this is reinforced with a steel plate too!!! The plate seems to break away from it's plastic mountings and foul on the drawer,so stopping it moving in/out But it's usually due to "stacking error" as mentioned by other's,ie,the Beomaster should be at the bottom,then tape deck,cd player and turntable above in that order.
Exactly, for that reason I mentioned the specific order. Had this same issue with the BC.
Really? I always thought the tape decks should be at the bottom and the Beomaster on top because it is then easier to connect the cables and the heat can be better transported. I've never seen the stackable systems stacked like that on official B&O pics, too. If that's the case and since I have two Beocords at the bottom, I should maybe change order.
The only blocking I've seen with Beocord drawers was if someone got the operating panel fitted incorrectly.If not 100% correct it will stick up apprx 1mm and that's enough for the panel to catch on something under the lidor at least make a scraping noise.The ribbon cables from the rear of the top circuit board to the power supply can also catch on the underside ofthe top cover if not correctly seated in their holders.
Manbearpig: Really? I always thought the tape decks should be at the bottom and the Beomaster on top because it is then easier to connect the cables and the heat can be better transported. I've never seen the stackable systems stacked like that on official B&O pics, too. If that's the case and since I have two Beocords at the bottom, I should maybe change order. Greetings, Kai
You don't have to change the order. I do also have the Beomaster on top - as you say...it is easier to connect cables. Never had any problems with any of my units by stacking them that way. As stated earlier: The feets are in the sides...no pressure in the middle, if stacked properly.I both have a 5000 and a 6500 system - and they have been stacked that way for 10 - 15 years... Counting the previous owners, they have been stacked this way all their "lives" - which is 23 - 28 years.
I would advise you Kai to put the master first and the rest on top. Looks a bit messy when dressing the cables from all 3 units when the master is on top.
You said it, Kai...
You have placed the Master on top because it is easier to connect cables, better heat transport from the Master etc.
I do not think you're a man who gets a nervous breakdown over how the cabling looks at the back of your system... But if - then you must move the units around... However - I do not think you have placed your system in the middle of the room where you can walk around it..? And since you (like me) have been living with the system, with the master on top, without any damage to the system (or your aestethic sense) - then leave it that way...
Steffen: I do not think you're a man who gets a nervous breakdown over how the cabling looks at the back of your system... But if - then you must move the units around...
I do not think you're a man who gets a nervous breakdown over how the cabling looks at the back of your system... But if - then you must move the units around...
I know Kai for quite a while now and believe me, he's quite picky.
Not sure why using the words "nervous breakdown", just trying to explain that it doesn't look neat. Btw Steffen, you said you had your system about 10 to 15 years, how old were you then, 2-3 years?
Leslie: Steffen: I do not think you're a man who gets a nervous breakdown over how the cabling looks at the back of your system... But if - then you must move the units around... I know Kai for quite a while now and believe me, he's quite picky. Not sure why using the words "nervous breakdown", just trying to explain that it doesn't look neat. Btw Steffen, you said you had your system about 10 to 15 years, how old were you then, 2-3 years?
was that necessary les?
Hey guys,
Leslie's got a point here. First of all, I really am picky when it comes to certain aspects - probably like many of us here are. After all it's Bang & Olufsen we share the interest in. And it is correct that the cables are easier to manage when the Beomaster is closer to the bottom. However, indeed, I have placed the setup close to a wall so that the cables can't be seen easily. I'm happy with the way it looks right now and think that from a functionality point of view stacking the system with the Beomaster on top may be slightly advantageous to other orders. However, I just became worried that the side panels of the lids might bend oputwards over time on the lower units because of the accumulating weight. In fact Die_Bogener has pointed out that there might be such a risk. And indeed there are plenty of units with the side panels of the lids bent slightly outwards. Thats's why I was asking. However, it probably won't make much difference which order the units are in, will it? To me it seems more relevant whether you stack the units 2 by 2 or all 4 on top of each other. My question therefore pointed to experiences of other members who have stacked four units on top of each other - in particular to whether there are experiences that deformation can occur over time because of the accumulating weight of the units placed closer to the top.
Thanks for all the valuable contributions!
I've had mine every which way (including Beocord at the bottom) for years and have't noticed anything. But ever since I've had the space they have been stacked 2 by 2 because they look much better that way to me.
--mika
To get back on track.
Here's a few pics of the cover from a Beocord 6500. You can see the metal plate inside. In the sides you can see some small tabs, that will slide into some cutouts in the bottom-plate (which is also metal).I have once seen a unit where the previous owner somehow managed to force the cover beside those cutouts... then the sides will get slightly out of alignment.
If the cover is mounted correctly, then there's no way the sides will get out of alignment.
Thanks very much everybody for contributing!