Puc control of a panasonic dbt 700

Hi

Is there a puc code for controlling a panasonic dbt 700 with a beo4 and bv 7 40 mk6 ?

After months of hesitation between the oppo and pana, I finally ordered one.

Last important thing to add into my set up.

Not too sure model specific but I know that the B&O remotes will control all of the Panasonic Blu-Ray players.

Wow, that's a very very nice model Olvisab, that's the one that i'm going for too!

Congrats!

Do remember to set it to decode the HD sound formats to PCM.

Looking forward to hear from you after a couple of days/blurays

MM

Paul W:

Not too sure model specific but I know that the B&O remotes will control all of the Panasonic Blu-Ray players.

Wow, that's a very very nice model Olvisab, that's the one that i'm going for too!

Hi Paul

I will give you my opinion about it.

Millemissen:

Congrats!

Do remember to set it to decode the HD sound formats to PCM.

Looking forward to hear from you after a couple of days/blurays

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Thanks MM for this advice, This is the first modification I will do.

I absolutely need a good bluray player and a good streamer too. I have a lot of dvds on harddisk and I expect some enhancements about the PQ too.

The tests will be done with the bv 7 mk6 and a philips led tv nearly at the same time, thanks to format 0 function.

Very exciting Olvisab! Please do report back. I'm sure that you'll still be getting pleasure from it in 10 or 15 years time from now! Nice choice! The design is very classy too, i'm sure that it will look nice with your BV7!

Paul W:

Very exciting Olvisab! Please do report back. I'm sure that you'll still be getting pleasure from it in 10 or 15 years time from now! Nice choice! The design is very classy too, i'm sure that it will look nice with your BV7!

To be honest, the bv 7 won't be my main tv because my main tv should be wall mounted.

Wall mounted a bv 7 is not really easy when you need to plug a lot of cable into it and I need a really flat tv on the wall because of my beolab 5000 on each side. A flat tv will be better looking.

The philips led will stay my main tv until I bought a 55 oled 4tv. I have to wait until they become more affordable.

The panasonic bluray player will be hidden in the same room as the bv 7. The main function of the bv 7 is to control the sound (bedroom and main room with AST) and send picture to the main tv (function 0).

The mlgw will help me to send commands to the bv 7.

I also bought hdmi splitter in order to be able to use the ps3 and bluray player with or without the bv.

It doesn't mean that i don't like the PQ of the bv which is often better than the philips led (better color , that's an usual advantage of a samsung panel).

I hope that the panasonic will last 10 years. I am so disappointed by the player of the ps3. i had two ps3 and the lens refuses every blurays.

In order to make my test i will use these blurays :

Gravity

Godzilla (very dark image)

Shining (i know it very well and will see the improvement due to the player)

Mad max 2 (old movie, not so bad blu ray but with some pictures issues that will be probably solved by the player)

And a lot of dvd

Give me one week after I receive it and I will give you my impression about it

Received today. Should I wait the 25 th for opening it ?

NOooOoo !

I bet you can't

MM

Hey Olvisab you really sound as though you know what you are doing! Very nice! A long, imformative review from you must follow.

Best of luck & enjoyment with it!

PS Don't let Tue Montani see this Panasonic, he'll stick a shiny aluminium front on it, call it a BANG&OLUFSEN and charge £1600 for it, to which many will reveal that 'it's an absolute bargain from Bang&Olufsen'. How did they make it at that price? ;)

Here comes my review of the panasonic bdt 700 :

I sold it

End

What was wrong with it?

Seriously, I sold it for good reasons :

I was searching for a bluray player able to manage the rendering of my blurays on my hard disks.

I spend so much time to find the good video format and dlna server in order that the ps3 can read them, I didn't want to live it again.

I have made many tries but my dvds had no sound (good option selected) despite the fact that the bv receive the sound (visible from menu sound) and when I watched the blurays, I had a big black bar on the bottom and no one on the top with no possibility to move the picture.

Sometimes I could scroll the dvd and bluray folders sometimes not , depending onwhich dlna server I selected.

Before I buy it, I knew that it wasn't the best dlna renderer but I was expecting something easier.

This is not the first kind of dlna streamer I tested and each time it was a big deception.

Actually, I have very good results with the ps3 and my dvd and bluray have the good format for it.

For the bluray player part, I would say that the results are better than a ps3 and the available correction menu is very precise and give good results.

I used two tvs and the better is the panel , the better is the correction.

I am sure that on bigger screens and 4k tv , the enhancement should be impressiv.

I would say for someone

- who absolutely need a buray player and know how to correct precisely the picture and love it (could be different for each movie that´s why there are 2 options with your own settings), that's a very good player, fast enough and well built. Better that the old ps3 for sure.

- who own a 3d tv or 4k and use these function, it worths to spend this extra of money in order to enjoy your tv.

- who is not annoyed by the fact the remote control is IR and not rf

I rip my blurays for comfort, I have a 3d tv but didn't intend to use this function (on a 40 the rendering is not really good and won't buy a 4k tv before the next oled 4k arrival), I love to use the rf remote control of the ps3 that will allow me to hide it in a side room.

OK, I see Olvisab, sounds as though you need something totally different I guess. One thing i've never done is rip Blu-Ray discs. I tend to buy a lot of HD films from iTunes & watch them from Apple TV - I have one or two favourites on Blu-Ray that I was able to buy on Amazon for the 2 for £10 deal.

The best of luck with whatever you settle on.

I stopped ripping movie disces even before the bluray format entered the scene.

I spend far too much time searching for the right codec and the optimal settings - for picture, sound and subtitles.

The search for the right server and the matching renderer almost ruined my joy of watching (and hearing) the movies.

Now I just pop in the (bluray) disc in the hardwareplayer, push the DVD button on the Beo4 and (puc)control, what can be controlled with the remote.

As I want optimal picture and sound quality, I am not willing to offer tons of gigabytes on my NAS for movies, I mostly only watch once or twice.

Admittedly I did (and still do) some ripping tests from time to time. But that is more from pure curiousity, and to be up to date with the possibilities of todays technology.

Give the OPPO 103 a try

MM

Paul W:

OK, I see Olvisab, sounds as though you need something totally different I guess. One thing i've never done is rip Blu-Ray discs. I tend to buy a lot of HD films from iTunes & watch them from Apple TV - I have one or two favourites on Blu-Ray that I was able to buy on Amazon for the 2 for £10 deal.

The best of luck with whatever you settle on.

Thanks paul

I am not against streaming and vod services neither ( I am testing actually Netflix in France) but compared to an original bluray sometimes there is a significant loss of quality in sound and picture.

This light loss should be compared to the gain of time and comfort provided by these solution.

Millemissen:

I stopped ripping movie disces even before the bluray format entered the scene.

I spend far too much time searching for the right codec and the optimal settings - for picture, sound and subtitles.

The search for the right server and the matching renderer almost ruined my joy of watching (and hearing) the movies.

Now I just pop in the (bluray) disc in the hardwareplayer, push the DVD button on the Beo4 and (puc)control, what can be controlled with the remote.

As I want optimal picture and sound quality, I am not willing to offer tons of gigabytes on my NAS for movies, I mostly only watch once or twice.

Admittedly I did (and still do) some ripping tests from time to time. But that is more from pure curiousity, and to be up to date with the possibilities of todays technology.

Give the OPPO 103 a try

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

You are right MM, I see that you have some experience with this issue

If my bluray player in my ps3 wasn't dead, I won't searching for another bluray player.

I could buy a ps4 or another ps3 but I do not trust anymore sony for any player. They absolutely don't last (computer or av use).

I had to move on with what already works for me : ripping and rf control.

I would better change my motherboard in order to rip faster and reach an higher decoding quality (2 pass).

Concerning the upscaling capabilities of the oppo or panasonic, I bet on a better quality of the upscale functions built in the next oled tv.

As I plan to change my main tv, this is an element I should take into account and spend my money accordingly.

I'm 100% with MM on this! If I really really love it, then as I mentioned, I may buy it as well on Blu-Ray as well as iTunes but space wise, I haven't got much storage left in the MacBook :)

I did get ripped off on Ebay as I wanted FLASHDANCE on Blu_ray as it's not on Region 2  and I got sent a mexican copy which i'm convinced is a pirate even though the sellers denies it. I got my fingers burnt there.

Isn't there a modern multimedia renderer with a HDD like the TViX B&O used to make their demo of the BeoVisions ?

The idea would be to rip and transfer in this multimedia station the Blu-Rays with a free solftware, MakeMKV for exemple, and control it with the PUC in your BeoVision.

Not necessarily a true NAS, but a multimedia HDD directly connected to the TV in HDMI, so that you can control it with the Beo4.

In fact, i'm searching for a similar station for my BeoVision 10.

Steph:

Isn't there a modern multimedia renderer with a HDD like the TViX B&O used to make their demo of the BeoVisions ?

The idea would be to rip and transfer in this multimedia station the Blu-Rays with a free solftware, MakeMKV for exemple, and control it with the PUC in your BeoVision.

Not necessarily a true NAS, but a multimedia HDD directly connected to the TV in HDMI, so that you can control it with the Beo4.

In fact, i'm searching for a similar station for my BeoVision 10.

Whatever the solution you choose, the main issue is the rip. Which format you will choose (video and audio). That´s not as simple as it seems.

If you read the specifications, every brand promises you that every common format will be read. We are far from this in reality.

The best way is to find a dlna server which transcode everything on the fly. That's what I use with my ps3.

If your collection is small enough then one disk could be enough.

I use a Drobo pro with 8 disks inside, so my needs are quite different.

I own dvds that won't never be edited on blurays and I will wait decades before being able to watch them on an online catalog.

OK, i see.

Not simple, as you said !

Will there be one day a sort of Kaleidescape movies server at an affordable price ?

olvisab:

I use a Drobo pro with 8 disks inside, so my needs are quite different.

Now, that's a beast

Transcoding?

To what - sound- and picture-wise?

Which DLNA server?

MM

Millemissen:

Now, that's a beast

Transcoding?

To what - sound- and picture-wise?

Which DLNA server?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I have perfect results with Universal media server (ums) better than PMS.

It helps me transcode the audio because some of my rips are with dts inside and it takes care perfectly of the transcode buffer, without it it would be impossible to stream it on my network.

For the dvds I use mostly mediatomb because I don't need any transcoding capabilities and it is easy to manage.

One function really interesting of UMS is the possibility to stop your movie and launch it later where you left it.

Before the drobo pro I used a drobo NAS with 4 hard disk. The drobo pro can't be used as a NAS, you need a server machine if you want to use it, this is its only drawback.

There are plenty of more advanced dlna server but these are light and can be installed on every machine, thanks to java.

Millemissen:

Now, that's a beast

Transcoding?

To what - sound- and picture-wise?

Which DLNA server?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

The audio of my rips need to be transcoded in order to be streamed by the ps3 even if I have selected the right codec and format for it.

I use Universal media server (UMS) for that and it takes care of the transcode buffer which allows me to stream them without any lags on my network. Without it, it is impossible to watch.

For the dvd I use Mediatomb. Simple and easy to manage dlna server. No need to transcoding for dvds but mediatomb is able to handle this function even if it more complicated.

One interesting function of UMS is the possibility to stop the movie and launch it later where you left it. It creates automatically a link that you can select.

There are plenty of dlna server but these are rock solid and easy to install and manage , thanks to java.

For UMS, a linux machine is better because you have access to more settings.

Remains the question: transcoding?

What comes out at the other end - by the tv - so to say.

Transcoding mostly means 'downgrading' in order to let the player have an easier job (and to have less data to stream).

Which again generally means no HD sound format from bluray rips.

MM

Millemissen:

Remains the question: transcoding?

What comes out at the other end - by the tv - so to say.

Transcoding mostly means 'downgrading' in order to let the player have an easier job (and to have less data to stream).

Which again generally means no HD sound format from bluray rips.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Transcoding can downgrade or be lossless. It depends of your choices.

No hd sound as the bv won't use it.

At the end it is pcm 5.1 for the sound or dts if I quite remember. For the picture I don't remember the container used for the ripping and the difference with the one accepted perfectly by the ps3.

I used to compare my rip to the original br and there is alway a very very light loss due mostly to the fast ripping way and of course the loss of hd sound.

DD 5.1 is already enough for me if my wife and my daughter let me watch the movie at normal sound level.

Have a look to UMS under linux or to their manual and you will see the options available.

So - no need for buying blurays to rip and store.

The good old DVD will be sufficient.

MM

Millemissen:

So - no need for buying blurays to rip and store.

The good old DVD will be sufficient.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

There are bluray worst than dvd but most of the bluray have far better definition than any dvd of the same movie. It depends a lot of the source used.

If you don't see the difference with a good dvd and the bluray then your tv is quite old or has a an excellent upscaling.

pcm 5.1 is already really good if you have good speakers.

Recently I watched Godzilla, at the beginning you have a beautiful nuclear explosion. Well, I don't need more, I want to stay alive.

Of course I - depending on the quality of the source material - see a difference between the BR and the DVD.

But the question was: the difference between a ripped DVD and a ripped BR - in a whatsoever container with whatsoever settings.

What do you mean by 'pcm 5.1 is good enough'?

You seldom find a pure PCM track on a BR - and never on a regular DVD.

MM