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Hi,
We have a BeoVision 11-55 and 3 external speakers. A pair of BL9 and a BL2.
When we try to set up the speakers as 3.1, at the speaker roles the BV11 only allows to set up the BL9 as front left and right, but the only option for BL2 is “OFF”
The subwoofer works, because we can configure it and we have tried with BL19 also - the result was the same.
What can we do?
Welcome to Beoworld.
With the BL9's you already have 2 subwoofers in your setup!
The basmanagement of the BV11 redirects all bas to the most capable speakers in a setup - these are the BL9's.
However, if you still want sound from your subwoofer, you would have to do some tweaking.
There are (and have been) some tips for this in the recent threads.
Or go directly to the Technical Sound Guide on the B&O site:
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/da/customer-service/product-support/picture/beovision-11/with-beo4
You might also benefit from this article from Geoff Martin himself:
http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2013/12/13/bo-tech-what-are-subwoofers-really-for/
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
originalZarans: When we try to set up the speakers as 3.1, at the speaker roles the BV11 only allows to set up the BL9 as front left and right, but the only option for BL2 is “OFF”
I'm confused by your question. (1) Do you mean that you cannot assign the "Subwoofer" Speaker Role to the BL2? (2) Or do you mean that you are configuring it as Subwoofer, but no sound is coming out of it.
If the answer is (1) - then I'm very confused. The BV11 has no internal rules regarding Speaker Role. If you wish, you could make all of your loudspeakers "Subwoofer" channels. Of course, this would be silly - but it's technically possible in the software.
I suspect that what you mean is (2). The reason the BV11 chooses to not send sound to the BL2 when you have BL9's connected is that using bass management to re-route low frequency content from two BL9's to one BL2 would downgrade your system. On average, across a range of low frequencies, one BeoLab 9 is more capable of delivering low end than one BeoLab 2. So, you'll get more bass capability with two BL9's than one BL2.
If you wish to override this decision in the BV11 software manually, you can go to the Bass Management menus and into the Bass Re-Direction levels. Set the BL9's to -100 dB and the BL2 to 0 dB. This will direct all of the low end to your BL2. If you wish to send the low frequency content to all three loudspeakers, set them all to 0 dB. However, note that this may (or may not) result in a REDUCTION of low-frequency levels due to the relative phase responses of the loudspeakers depending on their locations and the characteristics of your room's acoustical behaviour.
For more information about this, please see the Technical Sound Guide for the BV11 available for download from this page. The Subwoofer Tweaking article that MM mentioned may also help.
Cheers
-geoff
Geoff Martin: For more information about this, please see the Technical Sound Guide for the BV11 available for download from this page. The Subwoofer Tweaking article that MM mentioned may also help. Cheers -geoff
Even though the technical sound guide PDF is located in the Beovision 11 section, it also applies to the Beosystem 4, correct?
Sal:Even though the technical sound guide PDF is located in the Beovision 11 section, it also applies to the Beosystem 4, correct?
That's correct. The audio processing portion of the software is identical in the BeoPlay V1, BeoVision 11 and BeoVision Avant. There are hardware differences (i.e number of Power Link outputs or headphone output), but the menu structures and subsequent processing are the same.
Geoff Martin: Sal:Even though the technical sound guide PDF is located in the Beovision 11 section, it also applies to the Beosystem 4, correct? That's correct. The audio processing portion of the software is identical in the BeoPlay V1, BeoVision 11 and BeoVision Avant. There are hardware differences (i.e number of Power Link outputs or headphone output), but the menu structures and subsequent processing are the same. Cheers -geoff
Thank you, Geoff!
I think the Beosystem 4 is an amazing value proposition by B&O. Worth the price of admission for the sound processing alone. Let alone the home automation and other possibilities.
Sal: I think the Beosystem 4 is an amazing value proposition by B&O. Worth the price of admission for the sound processing alone. Let alone the home automation and other possibilities.
That is exactly what people tend to forget, when they compare any modern slim, flat flatscreen-tv with a BV!
They always miss the point of what a BV really is.
MM, I also think B&O could be doing a better job promoting the fact that people can have the "brains" of a beovision at a fraction the cost of a full on Beovision. I don't think they know that the option is out there. Currently, the Beosystem 4 (and before that the Beosystem 2/3), has/had one (fairly short and bland) page on the website, and the box hidden away in a cabinet in stores.
Yes, BeoPlay may be the gateway drug for new customers, but I also think that an easy gateway is a B&O receiver. I know I"m short changing the Beosystem 4, but promoting the hell out of it might make it an unexpected success -- and historically Beosystem processors have been relegated to the realm of installation specialists and inaccessible to most.
"Hey, can't afford a Beovision? You can have the brains of one..."
"Hey, already like your television / theater set up? Make it better with Beosystem..."
They're sitting on a gold mine.
You still need some good speakers (BeoLabs) to let a BSys4 plus a 'somewhat flatscreen tv' compete with a real BeoVision.
The BSys4 alone is probably mostly meant for a homecinema installation - but surely it can be used,as you suggest, too.
They even created some PUC's for controlling some third-party tv's.
But that is how B&O is - most people don't seem to know, what they get for their money with a B&O video product.
Sal:and historically Beosystem processors have been relegated to the realm of installation specialists and inaccessible to most.
Exactly. I don't even know what it really does.
The older one they used to say was a video engine, but I thought i would never buy one of those.