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not sure about this link but doing my best
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gramovox/floating-recordtm-vertical-turntable/description
Looks really interesting, but maybe overcomplicated? Would I want to have to clamp/ unclamp each record, and change speed by physically pulling the belt onto a different pulley?
Looks pretty vulnerable when it comes to potential accidental knocks.
Graham
"You think we can slap some oak on this thing?"
Can BeoBoy68 please photoshop a HDR2 over the base?
Beovision 7 40 mk 5 ,beovision 6x3, beosound 3000, beogram 3300 , 2 x lc2, 2 x beocom 1401, beocom 6000 x 2, 5 x beo4,
, 4 x beolab 4's, form 2, h2, a2,a1 and a beolab 2 😀😀
Guys, this is a Bang & Olufsen enthusiast forum.Please keep discussions B&O related or at least keep discussions about other things in the lifestyle forum.I will move this thread there.
Martin
On design, no comments, but the mechanics is a disaster waiting to happen, any kind of wear on tonearm or platter bearings will cause problems, and wear will occur caused by the down force, And any change in the vertical level will change the tracking force, spring loaded or not, we all know the inconsistency of spring loaded tracking force from the vertical tracking decks, If the deck is "dance proof" will depend a lot on the vibration dampening, and again we all know that problem from the BG 1000, its not that simple to construct. Furthermore I wonder about the anti skating mechanism, the physical laws tells me that the pressure on the inner side of the record groove will increase the nearer the tonearm comes to the middle, this can be compensated with a progressive acting spring, but the tiniest little wear or misalignment in the tonearm pivot will have big influence on this because of the high cartridge/mount weight. I suggest to the constructors that they go back to the first lessons in mechanical engineering and read a little about Newton. The only way to overcome the tonearm problems is a vertically tracking tonearm with the mechanism set at the top, but then they will loose the floating look. This Gramophone is made for the look and nothing else.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Not a new idea, but this one is a bit more visually striking. Panasonic I believe, and several other Japanese companies had similar products over the years, but they were completely enclosed, and used tangential tracking arms, very short. I think the Panasonic one is actually in the MoMA permanent collection. Never really sold though.
Jeff
I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus.
Having backed a few Kickstarter campaigns in my day, I get an email from Kickstarter once a week highlighting 3 projects. This project was included in the most recent email.
Argue all you want about the product being rubbish, the fact remains the project is funded and the creators stand to make a decent profit. While I would never buy one of these personally, I admire the creators and wish them success with the project.
I dont much care for the design but I think it's great that there is still interest in looking at new ways of playing vinyl and keeping the format alive, and mayb it appeals to a younger generation - hopefully we will see lots of new designs in the future. I always thought the Pro-ject Genie/RPM range to be stunning and B&O Islington actually have a Pro-ject Perspex (not sure what the model is) turntable next to a Moment - it looks stunning.
BeoBoy68:Technics SL-10 was beautiful. http://youtu.be/xv-hLQm4sbM
http://youtu.be/xv-hLQm4sbM
I believe this table is in the MoMA permanent collection.
Anybody remember this Sony..?
At least it is better looking than the ugly monster from Gramovox...
Steffen:Anybody remember this Sony..? At least it is better looking than the ugly monster from Gramovox...