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Thanks. My ML/NL is set up as A-Master, but I do not get the "+". How would I need to set it up to get the "+" to have the ML/NL "join" others?
steve1977:Thanks. My ML/NL is set up as A-Master, but I do not get the "+". How would I need to set it up to get the "+" to have the ML/NL "join" others?
The Beomusic is mainly a kind of NL remote. It handles mainly commands to/from NL devices. Now for example, one has a NL system and some ML devices, f.e. a BV7, a BL3500, BL passive with a ML/NL converter in between. Now for the ML/NL converter it would be impossible to choose which ML device is to be switched on if a "+" is pressed in Beomusic.
It will be possible to choose a NL source on a ML device though (with the good old remote).
Or buy a BLGW and use for both worlds the Beolink app
Thanks for your message. I am not fully clear whether i understand your point.
Agree with you that the Beomusic app is basically a NL remote.
I also thought though that the ML/NL is basically a NL device as well (at least this is how the Beomusic app sees it)?
When I select in the beomusic app to play a NL source to the ML/NL converter and I don't have (and cannot) choose, which ML device is switched on. So, the "+" would just do the same as when selecting a NL source to play to the ML/NL?
What do you think?
I have my BLC configured as a A.Slave, and I can select a ML source on it via BeoMusic (e.g. TV), and then join (+) it to my NL Essence mk2 - with the Apple app. The Android App doesn't do (+). In this configuration, because it is a A.slave, I can't play NL sources in my ML network, only send ML to NL.
I'm far from an expert on this topic, but I don't know what A.slave or A.master has to do with (+). As far as I know, whatever ML source the BLC has selected via the BeoMusic app, you should be able to (+) it to a NL device. However, don't set the BLC to a NL source (e.g. A9 TuneIn), and then try to (+) it to a NL device (Essence (+) to BLC). Other NL devices should (+) to the NL source. (Essence (+) to A9 TuneIn)
Stan
Thanks for your continued help.
I am not sure 100% sure whether I understand what works for you.
Let me clarify: when I play a ML source on my ML/NL converter (e.g., TV), I can join in another NL devices (e.g., A9) via the Beomusic app with "+". So, I am playing something on my BV7 (with MLNL) and my A9 can join this via "+'. This works with my ML/NL setup as A.Master.
What does not work is the opposite. I am playing something on my A9 and I want to join via "+" my BV7 (with ML/NL). Are you saying that this may work if I change my ML/NL to A.Slave?
No, with A.Slave I can't play any NL sources on my ML network.
I don't think the BLC can send commands to wake up ML devices, but I don't know for sure because mine is configured as an A.Slave where I know this is not possible (because my ML network already has a A.Master, V.Master and Source Center/BS5).
Thanks. I thought that the way I use my BLC, I actually wake up ML devices? For example, I use the Beomusic app to play TuneIn from my A9 to the BV7 (via BLC). This works well and I would have thought that this requires the BLC to wake up my BV7. The part that is not working is that there is no "+" to join, but I need to select the NL source manually in the menu of the BV7/BLC in the app.
Maybe possible in the future through FW update? Given the "wake-up" works, this should not be a HW constraint?
Also, I'd like to explore to connect the IR eye to the BLC. The IR "switch" has a "join" button. Let's see what this will do once I click it. Do you have an IR eye and tried?
steve1977:Maybe possible in the future through FW update? Given the "wake-up" works,
Imagine, you press on the "+" to switch on the BV7 and in the same time a BL3500 in your bedroom starts were your wife is sleeping .
This would happen if you have one NL/ML converter. This converter does not know which ML device it should switch on!
Thanks. But how is this different from me selecting in the Beomusic app to play TuneIn (from the A9 to the BV7). In both cases, I'd wake up my wife, isn't it?
steve1977:Thanks. But how is this different from me selecting in the Beomusic app to play TuneIn (from the A9 to the BV7). In both cases, I'd wake up my wife, isn't it?
No. If you choose the source in the living with a remote, only the BV7 will start.
Not with the remote, but with the beomusic app. Wouldn't in this case also the device play that is connected with the BLC. How would a potential "join (+)" feature be different from me selecting to play a NL source to the ML/NL through the beomusic app. I can now already NL sources from the beomusic app to the ML/NL, but I cannot "join (+)".
If you have a BLGW, you can REALLY get into the control of the BLC and into NL, for that matter. This weekend, I added a second BLC to my BLGW. This enabled me to program macros to control a BeoGram turntable on one ML system from all of my devices on another ML system. The BLGW bridges the two ML systems together via the 2 BLC units. Therefore, I could program my Beo4 to be able to control my turntable from my non-datalink BeoSound 5 based ML network. I have posted details on this in the Home Automation forum.
Thanks for sharing. My need is a bit simpler as I don't have a "real" ML network to integrate. Basically, I have a NL network and integrated my BV5 into the NL network via a BLC. This works well and allows me - for example - to play TuneIn multi-rooom on NL devices and also my BV5 (with beomusic app, not yet with X app). I still have a BC2, which currently is idle, so I'd like to connect it to my BV5 and then use the BC2 across my NL devices. I believe all I need is the right cables?
Hi Steve1977,
As Beocenter 2 only provides standard definition DVD picture quality, I would suggest keeping this as a CD player and radio only, ie. not worrying about connecting the video output. For audio use, all that is needed is a Masterlink cable to the NL/ML converter:-
http://soundsheavenly.com/48-masterlink-control-and-sync
You could add a SCART cable to the Beovision 5 if reuqired for DVD use, please contact me via my sponsor link below to let me know the cable length needed if you would like a quote for this cable.
Kind regards, Steve.
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Thanks for your quick reply. Isn't the ML of the ML/NL already occupied by connecting to the BV5? I am not at home now, but thought that this is how the two connect? I'd prefer not to work with scart but still like to use the DVD function if possible?
Hi steve1977,
Please use an extra Masterlink cable and a junction box (shown at the link in my previous post) to add an extra connection into the existing Masterlink network.
As the video output of Beocenter 2 is standard definition only, unfortunately SCART is the best option (other than composite video, which is even worse). The picture quality of Beocenter 2 is very limited by modern standards, hence my suggestion to ignore the video output and use this for CD and radio only. A modern blu-ray player will upscale your DVDs to give much better picture quality than the Beocenter 2 can give.
Was just thinking that going with Scart means that I can no longer use my Beo4 to control the BC2? PUC is used by an ATV. Do I get this right?
As long as you have line of sight from the Beo4 to the Beocenter 2 or the Masterlink cable connected as described above, then you will still have control of the Beocenter 2.