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Well , new to me . It`s a crt Avant in black . Roman numerals on the label work out at 1994. Half of it won`t go just yet . There is a vcr that only clicks ,but won`t show a picture .I have been trying the menu screens . There is no handbook . The lady that sold it to me on Gumshoe was away and her next door neighbour took the cash for it.So I`m flying blind apart from the gorgeous picture via my Humax STB . But not ST because you must not put things on top .That`s from a downloaded manual .I am not sure which manual I should download .I managed to work out which scart plug did the business with the Humax.
The vcr spat out the tape with a loose broken end hanging out. That`s a kind of progress.
There may be a radio so I plugged the aerial in the ground level socket. Nothing so far. Setting unfamiliar digital watches is good practice for all this . A bit like turning the clock back to old technology . It`s harder than you think .
So how should I identify this new arrival .Absolutely free of scratches. It was a bit dusty and some kids seem to have made sticky bun marks on one side. But it wiped of with a damp cloth. Up till a week before my bargain purchase I had no idea Bang & Olufsen even made televisions . I have seen the upright record players in ads loads of times .
The interactive way the turntable moves when I don`t want it to is a nuisance. I still need to work out my defence for that .I just want it to keep still .Is that too much to ask ?
Hi and welcome to Beoworld.
Did the TV come with the original Bang & Olufsen remote control, the one with the LCD screen built in?
If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.
Hi jonjoseph,
one or two pictures of the tv here would probably help a lot identifying, what you have bought.
Was there no remote coming with it?
You can find the user guides of the old Avant on the B&O website -> costumer service.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Thanks for the tip to keep the Avant in one place. That is a piece of info I gleaned from reading the download manual again.
I have the controller to switch it on . The downloadable manual could be heavily edited now as Teletext is dead and gone. None of the tv stations are transmitted in the same way now . That removes a huge chunk of old information to start with .
I have been looking to see if a replacement copy of the controller is on sale ,just in case .Today just as a double check I was in Asda and looked at a Panasonic and a Polaroid tv. Polaroid tvs got an absolute caning by the Americans on the net . I am surprised they survived all that . But picture wise the flat screens have no appeal at all .They have some demo tape running and it has fireworks and close up shots of Jerky Smoke. That`s worse than motion blur .
The instructions on the B&O seem a bit repetetive but do not give enough basic info to show how the video tape should be operated. It may be faulty . The controller may not be 100 %. But since the old Avant will operate the one scart socket I won`t worry about the video tape bit.
The name Avant reminds me of a Radio 4 program some time back when intercoms ( Rigs ) between cars were the fashion. A know -it -all teenager was with his Mum and she said they could have a nice chat.The rude teenager interupted her to say "You can`t Mother! You `avent got a rig in ! "
I saw a youtube with an Australian sounding chap checking over an Avant 32. He noticed there was no picture for the video tape and being a logical engineer type assumed it would need a scart lead from the recorder to the screen area. Just as I found on my Avant . As soon as I had connected a spare lead to the blue socket at the bottom end and to the spare left side scart socket it was in business. The Avant came without that fitted . The controls for the video take some getting used to . After a while it will become a habit .But a very fine clear picture from the tape which had a recording on it. Now I have to work out how to do a new recording. There is no counter to monitor what`s going on so far .The list button has more hidden things to discover. I was supposed to get the manual when this tv was collected but a next door neighbour was there to deal with the sale and she knew nothing about it .
Is the paper manual any different to the downloadable one ? And does it explain more about the list button ?
I have a Radio button too and had some noises and voices that seem to hint at a radio .Nothing about that in the internet manual . But major progress so far
.Good to watch the Rugby and know there will be no blurring .
jonjoseph:As soon as I had connected a spare lead to the blue socket at the bottom end and to the spare left side scart socket it was in business.
Well done - good effort. I hadn't even thought to suggest checking that the scart cable was present. It's good that the VCR appears to be working as most of the Avants I've encountered have had faulty VCRs (although often just because the belts have dried out and become stretched and brittle through age and lack of use).
jonjoseph:Is the paper manual any different to the downloadable one ?
No, they should be exactly the same, although there were a number of variants of the Avant over the years and so there were a number of different manuals produced. What 'Type' number is shown on the label on the rear of your Avant?
jonjoseph:And does it explain more about the list button ?
There is a separate manual for the beo4 remote which should help in this regard - in particular it will explain how to add and remove items from the 'list'.
jonjoseph:I have a Radio button too and had some noises and voices that seem to hint at a radio .Nothing about that in the internet manual .
There's no radio in the Avant, but you can connect a B&O audiomaster (the Ouverture was a popular choice for example, but there are many others) using a masterlink cable and the radio, tape and CD would then play through the Avants speakers and everything would be controlled by the same remote. In fact the beo4 remote can be used to control most B&O devices produced from the mid 1990s onwards (which is one reason why there are buttons that wont seem to make much sense for the Avant in isolation).
Kind Regards,Martin.
Can only echo previous statements.
The Avant is one of the best TVs B&O have ever made. I adore my 28" DVD and it still outperforms many current TVs especially as regards sound.
Ben
Thankyou riverstix. Glad I didn`t spend too long looking for a radio station .It was very forward thinking of B&O to insert buttons that might be used in the future. That`s unusual .
My wife seems to like our new addition to the room and asked for another one for the second room in our next house when we make the move . So I had a bash at bidding for a 32 model on ebay . I have never bid on anything before. But this went very quickly without any competition . Maybe the closing time half way through an All Blacks World Cup match on a Friday night had some effect there .
The distance for collection must be a factor in ebay sales and I am getting used to using Anyvan for long trips .I don`t have to travel then .The 32 model will be coming tomorrow 200 miles up from Southampton . The trip costs twice as much as the tv. But ,all in , it`s still half the price of a new set. Some very odd Supply and Demand logic involved in this sale .And if it went Pop in a month I still have a controller and a some good speakers which retain their value .
As I write ,there is a documentary from India . Anything from India demonstrates the colour quality of a good tv . But it`s not just full on deep colours , it`s subtle shades and shadows that impress with the B&O. And a program about oak trees two days ago with closeups of the insects hiding in the leaves . This is a lovely tv .
My Avant 28 type number is 81/33 .I have a few other numbers jotted down .An Item number and a Serial number .
I had a change from Google to Duckduckgo recently .They say it does not track your searches. Well I changed back again .I have bought a Handsaw and a B&O Tv and now I am getting non stop ads for saws and tvs. After I`ve already bought them .
On the screen menu there are headings like Decoder etc. What`s all that about?
An early 28 model with a controller---Does that ever need programming ? How would that happen? And why is it so heavy ? Maybe steel toecaps are a B&O option they are going to surprise us with .
Now we have to consider my other lovely tv as I received the 32 inch model today .Bigger picture. Finer sound quality. Half way through the day I was checking all the menus and trying the scart positions.I got a picture straight away with a Human 8000 box. The list of stb boxes surprised me. That did not include my one .Soon after that I lost the picture completely . After swopping plugs around I noticed the picture coming up with the V-Tape button . This model has a DVD and no video tape. Then I realised the TV button refers to the Analogue signals that are switched off. So Teletext and TV stations as such are not used. Sadly the ones that are not needed are marked with a star on the long explanation list.That means they cannot be removed .
Now I can access the picture via V Tape I don`t need to keep switching the stb to standby --then back on again -- for the picture to work .I remember the old habit with scart connectors. The last one switched on was the one that worked . That`s what I recall anyway . It may not surprise readers here to know I don`t posess a mobile phone either . But I have organised a Satellite motorised dish working my home made ,and home designed , diy projector . That`s more fun .
This is me answering myself now. I obtained the detailed instruction booklet , or a photocopy of it , to give me a few pointers. The diagram of the scart sockets which shows which does what comes up for close inspection on page 56 . Why not page 2 ?. Surely that would make more sense . The whole explanation system seems to be back to front . Has anyone ever mentioned that to B&O ? In a way that lack of directness has rubbed off on their advertisers . The ads seem a bit spooky too. High end tv ads showing the back of a lonely looking man in a suit patiently waiting for a picture to appear . He looks as if he might be a tax inspector . Will he be hyper critical and hard to please ? He will surely be disapointed if he wants to criticise a B&O television . But that`s a bit of a low key , back to front way to make a point to Joe Public .The ads are almost keen to get rid of any trace of colour too . A bit of blue creeps in there .That`s about it . It may be a British slant with a huge dollop of snobbery . I wonder what the American adverts are like . What happened to "If you`ve got it --flaunt it . As long as we don`t get --"It`s Awesome ".
Hi,
I guess what needs to be remembered is that when new, these were a premium product with a service level to match.
Contrary to the usual experience of collecting a TV from some store, struggling home with it in the back of the car, and then trying to set it up yourself, it would have been delivered, installed, and configured, by an experienced installer who would not have needed to refer to the instruction manual.
As a consequence, it makes sense that these details are not at the front of the manual, as they wouldn't have been needed, at least initially, by the original owner.
I'm pleased you are enjoying your new (to you) Avant TVs, they (in particular the later 'Real Flat' models) are amongst the best CRT televisions ever produced (by any manufacturer). We've got a number of newer LCD Beovisions, but our Avant 28 DVD RF is still in almost daily use upstairs and even today I can't help but be impressed by both the picture and sound quality.
Kind regards,
Martin.
My neighbour has my old one and I watched it the other day - still a great picture and it's a curved screen one - what's great is that you can still get converters and stuff so she has Apple TV, Humax box and a DVD plugged in and controlled from a Beo4 - in the bedroom she has a BV6-26 connected to the Avant - the other day she asked if she should change now to something newer as its so big - my advice was to stick with it until it goes pop, unless she just wants to get a newer beovision of course