ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
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Millemissen:multiroom (with previous ATV versions (?))
BeoNut since '75
elephant:Button details - not all will map to an older Beo4 PUC ... and new tvOS has changes in long button / context menus And the volume buttons don't work on my BV8's HDMI (of course, too old) BeoNut since '75
Paul W:Hi Rob! It's coming, but so far Apple has had some issues with what Plex submitted so it was rejected. But it's back in review again and they seem quite confident it'll pass this time.
rob08:Thanks. Anybody know if B&O will update the Apple TV PUC?
Hi Rob,
Right now, it does have 'air video hd' app to stream from a NAS connected to your Mac etc. May be worth giving it a try as a lot of people like that app :)
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Michael:the old way (hold down center button) does not work.
rob08:Is the Plex app available in the App Store? Does it work well? Does it do subtitles?
Millemissen:'Expand up to 1GB'....then you would have to have several apps open/running, before you need more than 32GB. I'm still not quite convinced ;-) MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Thanks for the info ;-)
I guess after all we should listen to Paul W and go for the 64Gb version.
But I will not be surpriced, if there is more to this need for a bigger storage.
Time will tell.
And thanks @Elephanth that you take the time for this indepth (re)view of the new ATV - really appreciated by a lot of us, I am sure.
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Sorry - it is elephant, not Elephanth 😏
I am waiting for iPeng to release an app for the new ATV.
Being able to contact my Logitech Media Server from the ATV would mean access to my (NAS) stored music collection, TuneIN radio, music streaming (Spotify, WiMP etc)..... all in one giant interface. And, yes - playback from the LMS is gapless :-)
If not - well, the iPad Pro will have to do the job.
I'm amazed at how natural it feels to use the Siri Remote. This is an elegant and very ergonomic interface. B&O needs to be paying close attention what Apple has done here. This should have been an idea for the next generation of the Beo6: providing a swiping interface on the touchscreen. Also, the Siri voice control makes navigation very fast. I would have preferred such an evolution of the Beo6 rather than the horrible BeoRemote One. I still find that I need to look at the buttons of the BeoRemote One before pressing. With so many buttons and no tactile button feel, the BeoRemote One is a failure in ergonomics.
beojeff:I'm amazed at how natural it feels to use the Siri Remote. This is an elegant and very ergonomic interface. B&O needs to be paying close attention what Apple has done here. This should have been an idea for the next generation of the Beo6: providing a swiping interface on the touchscreen. Also, the Siri voice control makes navigation very fast. I would have preferred such an evolution of the Beo6 rather than the horrible BeoRemote One. I still find that I need to look at the buttons of the BeoRemote One before pressing. With so many buttons and no tactile button feel, the BeoRemote One is a failure in ergonomics.
Thank you Mr Elephant. Very interesting :)
However I noticed something interesting ... the scrubbing behaviour may be available for other iTunes movies ie those that are not yet/ partially downloaded. And the behaviour is different elsewhere.So I have a working hypothesis that Apple have indexed their content by transition sequences to allow you to scrub ahead of the download and start (instantly?) at points further ahead in the movie.I will try to devise a test to prove this theory !
....and that works?
Millemissen:....and that works?MMThere is a tv - and there is a BV.
Problem with fitting Apple TV 4 inside Beovision 11 solved:
Moses Martiny:Problem with fitting Apple TV 4 inside Beovision 11 solved:
Haven't had a lot of time to play with the apps yet, but I did discover an app for DR (Danish equivalent of BBC) which is a nice addition, previously I had to stream DR via Airplay from my iPhone.
The new Netflix app does take some getting used to. E.g. everything is re-organised and I haven't found an easy way to see if a film / show is available in surround or not (in the old app there was a Dolby-like icon to indicate this).
The Apple Music app is almost as complicated as on the iPhone, leaving you to wonder where exactly everything is. Could not find a way to shuffle my iCloud Match playlists, the app only seems to be able to play the songs of the playlist in order.
The PUC works fine with my BV11 / Beo4, but obviously does not give access to Siri or the swipe functionality. Rev and FF is a bit tricky as they were clearly designed to work with swipe and not Beo4. E.g. you have to press 'left' one or more times to stop FF'ing, pressing the OK/Center button does not consistently seem to stop the FF'ing. I am not able to find the "jump to main menu" button mapped on the beo4, but perhaps when B&O update the PUC entry this will be available on the Beo4.
Moses Martiny:The PUC works fine with my BV11 / Beo4, but obviously does not give access to Siri or the swipe functionality. Rev and FF is a bit tricky as they were clearly designed to work with swipe and not Beo4. E.g. you have to press 'left' one or more times to stop FF'ing, pressing the OK/Center button does not consistently seem to stop the FF'ing. I am not able to find the "jump to main menu" button mapped on the beo4, but perhaps when B&O update the PUC entry this will be available on the Beo4
elephant:Do the Apple Siri Remote volume keys +/- work on your HDMI/BV11 ?
The don't appear to be. Have not played with the the ATV settings, though.
M.
Raeuber:I had BeoRemote One for a few weeks and took it back to the dealer. It was not much fun do search for buttons and sometimes to switch the light on in my livingroom to press the correct button. BR One looks very nice and it's well made but yes, it's a failure in ergonomics. Regards Räuber Beo4 is still the best remote B&O ever made.
Regards
Räuber
Beo4 is still the best remote B&O ever made.
You had a BeoRemote One for a few weeks but Beo4 for many years. I've had both for over a year now and I like both. BeoRemote One has much more flexibility and its lighter and smoother. Beo 4 is nice but I would not say BeoRemote one is a failure in ergonomics. Both B&O remotes lack backlit keys but the One at least has a screen. Compared to the Siri Remote I find that BeoRemote One is more elegant and nice to use. I could do without the numbers on the remote and have a swipe-area there but that might be a thing for the future.
The Video engine-systems (V1/11/Avant 55/75/85) has a EXT. IR input. Perhaps that could be used to send commands over a different IR-frequency but still the problem would be to get the TV to accept the code. I am also looking into an arduino solution using two different IR diodes to translate commands back to B&O so we could use Apple TV for volume on our B&O systems too. Perhaps a bit unnecessary but it is annoying with buttons that does not work.
Why is it sooo important to be able to use the volume buttons of the AppleTV remote? Don't we all have a Beo remote at hand all the time?
Millemissen: Why is it sooo important to be able to use the volume buttons of the AppleTV remote? Don't we all have a Beo remote at hand all the time? MM
Because it is messy to hold two different remotes mainly. And because it is fun to solve things .
Some picturesApple Siri Remote, BeoRemote One (blank and matte, altough they look the same here).Apple TV (4th generation) installed in BeoVision Avant 55".My Avant was serviced the day after I got the new Apple TV, I took pictures of course. The new slow-motion screensavers are very beautiful and relaxing to watch. Like this one for example. (Don't mind the cable mess. I am moving in a month).
Michael: Millemissen: Why is it sooo important to be able to use the volume buttons of the AppleTV remote? Don't we all have a Beo remote at hand all the time? MM Because it is messy to hold two different remotes mainly. And because it is fun to solve things .
The second part I can't argue against - certainly not ;-)
The first part, though! If you are so eager to have the A remote controlling the volumen and you don't want to hold two different remotes, it must mean, that you prefer the A remote to the B remote ;-)))
Millemissen:The first part, though! If you are so eager to have the A remote controlling the volumen and you don't want to hold two different remotes, it must mean, that you prefer the A remote to the B remote ;-)))
Dave Farr:I also couldn't get it to learn my BEO4 remote as it said it couldn't detect a signal.
Michael:B&O uses a 455 Khz IR diode and usual remotes are around 30-60Khz so that is probably the reason. I agree, the picture quality is amazing and its also easy to jump back and forth now. Much quicker. And the Home sharing feature is super quick!