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Long-press commands on Essence remote

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Chris Hassell
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Chris Hassell Posted: Sun, Jun 5 2016 10:45 PM
Holding down on the essence remote does send an additional IR command but AFTER sending the press/hold/release for the 'quick click' of the button.

Am I missing something here, one command HAS to happen to get to the other?? Is it therefore only usable if the 'quick click' event actions something that you won't notice, has already happened or nothing at all? Confused

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Sal replied on Mon, Jun 6 2016 12:28 AM

Chris Hassell:
Am I missing something here, one command HAS to happen to get to the other??

Although I don't know all of the long press commands, based solely on STANDBY, I don't think that long pressing sends any other commands before or other than the one for the long press. For example, short pressing the DARK DOT at 6'O'clock pauses the music. Long press = Standby. If the Short/Quick Click command was sent before standby, the music would immediately stop / pause, rather than fading out which it does with the long press. I hope this helps.

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Hi,

What's the problem with the short press command - it pause the music, but the Beolabs still on (green light). If you press long, it shuts down every NL Product. So if you want to standby in the kitchen and somebody watching TV in the living room, you have to use the app.

Is there a trick it didn't found yet? Unsure

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Mat
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Hi guys, I'm talking about when the Essence Remote is in IR mode.

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I think I've figured out how to do this. In theory only though as my BLGW is currently packed up.

- for short-press macros add a delay at the beginning just slightly longer than the difference between a short-press and a long-press.

- if a long-press event is captured then cancel the short-press macro (currently mid-delay) before executing the commands you want to happen on long-press.

Make sense? Geeked

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chucky replied on Mon, May 21 2018 6:54 PM

Hi Chris,

I just got a second Essence remote and I am trying to capture scenes as my wife does not understand the Alexa commands. How do I set this up in the gateway as trigger? I am a noob sorry.

 

tx Chucky

 

 

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chucky replied on Mon, May 21 2018 7:43 PM
Option 4 on the essence remote I found these commands: (3 green lights)

Turn left: Global/Woonkamer/AV renderer/BV 7-40 Woonkamer/Light?Action=Key release&Command=STEP_DW (multiple times)

Turn right: Global/Woonkamer/AV renderer/BV 7-40 Woonkamer/Light?Action=Key release&Command=STEP_UP (Multiple times)

*Long press: Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/Light?Action=Key release&Command=FUNCTION_25

*Short press: Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/Light?Action=Key release&Command=FUNCTION_24

Ø Short press Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/Light?Action=Key release&Command=FUNCTION_22

Ø Long press Short press Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/Light?Action=Key release&Command=FUNCTION_23

0 Short press Global/Woonkamer/AV renderer/BV 7-40 Woonkamer/Light?Action=Press&Command=FUNCTION_20

0 Long press Global/Woonkamer/AV renderer/BV 7-40 Woonkamer/Light?

Are there more commands?
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beojeff replied on Mon, May 21 2018 7:49 PM

Chucky,

Do you perhaps mean "trigger" scenes rather than "capture" scenes? The Essence remote can trigger BLGW scenes by putting it in "LIGHT" mode. The details for the various modes are under the technical inspiration section of the beointegration.com site. You must program the corresponding B&O "LIGHT" commands as triggers for your macros in the BLGW setup.

The key mapping is as follows:

LIGHT FUNCTION 20            = Essence Sound

LIGHT FUNCTION 21            = Essence Sound Continuous

LIGHT FUNCTION 22            = Essence Next 

LIGHT FUNCTION 23            = Essence Next Continuous

LIGHT FUNCTION 24            = Essence Off

LIGHT FUNCTION 25            = Essence All Off

LIGHT FUNCTION 26            = Essence Previous

LIGHT FUNCTION 27            = Essence Previous Continuous

LIGHT STEP DOWN= Essence Volume Wheel Down Single Press

LIGHT CONTINUOUS STEP DOWN= Essence Volume Wheel Down Single Press

LIGHT STEP UP= Essence Volume Wheel Up Single Press

LIGHT CONTINUOUS STEP UP= Essence Volume Wheel Up Continuous Press

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chucky replied on Mon, May 21 2018 10:36 PM

Thanks! Works well except the weel. 

I want a remote on the table for the essence in the kitchen to turn on the lights 4 scenes and the Essence and control the wheel. Basicly the same function out of the box in BT mode but adding 4 light scenes. Therefor I use Function 22/23/26/27. Maybe not the best but any suggestion is welcome;)

 

Event

Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/
Light?Action=Continue&Command=STEP_DW

Command

Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/
Volume adjust?Command=Step Down

 

I find it not really responsive so I have added 7 times the same command delayed with 100ms. The other Essence remote in BT mode works way better. 

Also played with the skylights and the remote but it is to tricky I will probably blow out a motor. On a Beo 4 with joystick it works well. Also in the Beolink 2 app. But the commands on the Essence remote are not really always correct. (Could be me)



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beojeff replied on Tue, May 22 2018 12:03 AM

chucky:

Thanks! Works well except the weel. 

I want a remote on the table for the essence in the kitchen to turn on the lights 4 scenes and the Essence and control the wheel. Basicly the same function out of the box in BT mode but adding 4 light scenes. Therefor I use Function 22/23/26/27. Maybe not the best but any suggestion is welcome;)

 

Event

Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/
Light?Action=Continue&Command=STEP_DW

Command

Global/Kitchen/AV renderer/Essence MKII/
Volume adjust?Command=Step Down

 

I find it not really responsive so I have added 7 times the same command delayed with 100ms. The other Essence remote in BT mode works way better. 

Also played with the skylights and the remote but it is to tricky I will probably blow out a motor. On a Beo 4 with joystick it works well. Also in the Beolink 2 app. But the commands on the Essence remote are not really always correct. (Could be me)



Remember that the LIGHT mode is IR and needs a clear path to a B&O IR receiver to transmit the command. If you are trying to dim or increase the light level using the continuous wheel function, it's a bit more difficult that you might think. It needs a combination of macros.

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I’ve got some stuff I’ve been playing with here that I’ll share this weekend.

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Aleksei replied on Tue, May 22 2018 7:58 PM

Chris, this will not work.

I have faced absolutely the same behavior of the Essense (Here in Russian, sorry). The thing is that when you set the delay, the BLGW will anyway send two commands, but the first one (short) with delay, that will make the result even more messy. I was thinking to use the KEY_RELEASE parameter - that would help coping with the first command, but for some reasons (do not remember) it did not work either.

I have agreed to live with the situation, that If I need to choose the long command (N.Music in my case) it will first send the short command (TV). In this particular setup it is not a big issue for me. The intention was to use Essence as arm-chair specific remote for TV with limited functionality (switching between channels and change the volume. Short press on a black dot makes mute, and long - standby)

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