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Does anyone know if the new BV14 Wooden front panel will fit the BV11? It looks very like it would?
It would match the BeoLab 18's really nicely. :)
Yes, someone in the know has confirmed that it will fit similar sized BV11 sets. I'm assuming with the most current chassis (magnets).
Excellent, Has anyone seen the BV14 with the wooden font next to the 18's? How do they look?
splud: Does anyone know if the new BV14 Wooden front panel will fit the BV11? It looks very like it would?
Over the weekend I noticed a Danish B&O store selling the BV11 version of the BV14 fret, online. Not sure if it was a pre-order (it was all in Danish), but it's promising.
I'm certainly intending to get one of these wooden BV14-40 frets for my BV11-40.
According to my dealer the wooden cover can be used on the 40/55 BL11 - actually it was intended so from B&O.
I did not hear anything about two different versions.
In the flesh they look superb - very well crafted.
The lamellas are not uniform (like those on the BL18) - they are differently shaped, which makes the surface look quite nice.
As an addition to the 'wooden BL18's' it looks perfect...
....if you like wood ;-)
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
Millemissen: According to my dealer the wooden cover can be used on the 40/55 BL11 - actually it was intended so from B&O. I did not hear anything about two different versions.
But the BV11 has two variations of fret? It has the old magnets and newer clip-on fret? When I've ordered new BV11 frets in the past, I get asked "do you have the magnet or clip-on BV11 model?".
So, if you have a magnet-based BV11, then I guess you can't use the BV14 wooden fret.
Moxxey, the BV14 wooden frets, do indeed, use the magnets, they are compatible with the newer BV11 chassis (which uses magnets, not clips).
Discrimination of the bv11-46 inch owners
koning:Discrimination of the bv11-46 inch owners
koning: Discrimination of the bv11-46 inch owners
I would wait and see, if there - maybe - would be a BV11-46 version of that, too (for the compatible BV11's).
And I would ask my dealer to make a request, and post it on the Facebook page myself.
If more people want it, it might be possible?
Sal:Moxxey, the BV14 wooden frets, do indeed, use the magnets, they are compatible with the newer BV11 chassis (which uses magnets, not clips).
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
Millemissen:I would wait and see, if there - maybe - would be a BV11-46 version of that, too (for the compatible BV11's). And I would ask my dealer to make a request, and post it on the Facebook page myself. If more people want it, it might be possible? MM There is a tv - and there is a BV.
Crazy world!
The oak wood front for the BV14 cost almost the same as the new Samsung Serif TV I bought last week.
Sal: Moxxey, the BV14 wooden frets, do indeed, use the magnets, they are compatible with the newer BV11 chassis (which uses magnets, not clips).
Argh! My BV11-40 uses the clips. I thought the magnets were for the original BV11 revision as it was inherited from the BV10?
Really confused by this move from B&O. I thought the magnet fret design on the BV10 was dropped on the BV11 as you could see the magnets under the grille on light-coloured cloth (the white fret was awful for this issue). That means my BV11-40 is a MK-I if they switched to a magnet design for later revisions.
I'll have to super-glue the wooden fret on to my clip-on BV11-40!
Does anyone know why B&O went magnet -> clip-on -> magnet?
moxxey: Sal: Moxxey, the BV14 wooden frets, do indeed, use the magnets, they are compatible with the newer BV11 chassis (which uses magnets, not clips). Argh! My BV11-40 uses the clips. I thought the magnets were for the original BV11 revision as it was inherited from the BV10? Really confused by this move from B&O. I thought the magnet fret design on the BV10 was dropped on the BV11 as you could see the magnets under the grille on light-coloured cloth (the white fret was awful for this issue). That means my BV11-40 is a MK-I if they switched to a magnet design for later revisions. Does anyone know why B&O went magnet -> clip-on -> magnet?
My BV11-40 uses clips. I read somewhere that the BV10 magnets caused long term fret discolouration by attracting micro metallic particles. Are the magnets just self adhesive reducing the cut-outs in the glass?
Unless I was wanting to match Beolab 18 wood or the like my own preference would be to stick with fabric.
Graham
vikinger: Unless I was wanting to match Beolab 18 wood or the like my own preference would be to stick with fabric.
That's exactly my plan as I own some BL18s. So, after all, I can't now use the BV14-40 wooden fret on my BV11-40!
moxxey: vikinger: Unless I was wanting to match Beolab 18 wood or the like my own preference would be to stick with fabric. That's exactly my plan as I own some BL18s. So, after all, I can't now use the BV14-40 wooden fret on my BV11-40!
Try comparing the fronts of both TV's with the frets removed. You might find a way of putting self adhesive thin magnets onto the BV11 designed for clips.
KMA:Just to be clear: I'm perfectly happy about my journey with B&O this far, including my current products. I just do not see that the journey is worth continuing with, say BV14. Maybe with BV14 Mk II that is up-to-date, if there will be such a thing. (Note: 3D is going away / has left the stage. HDR will not. The former is an "experience", the latter is a picture QUALITY standard.) B&O/LG OLED – and here the DESIGN is the key – may change how I feel. BUT IF... ...BV14 had been up-to-standard (HDR, looking at this omission)... and ...I would have got a reasonable trade-in offer... I would have upgraded (4K/55" – yes!) As it is now, let's see what 2017 brings! I'm not jumping ship yet. In the meanwhile, there are many BeoPlay products to purchase AND, BeoSound 1 / 2. Let down by the BeoVisions, I'm looking foward to the sound systems. I may not believe anymore, but I do hope.
I'm perfectly happy about my journey with B&O this far, including my current products.
I just do not see that the journey is worth continuing with, say BV14. Maybe with BV14 Mk II that is up-to-date, if there will be such a thing.
(Note: 3D is going away / has left the stage. HDR will not. The former is an "experience", the latter is a picture QUALITY standard.)
B&O/LG OLED – and here the DESIGN is the key – may change how I feel.
BUT IF...
...BV14 had been up-to-standard (HDR, looking at this omission)...
and
...I would have got a reasonable trade-in offer...
I would have upgraded (4K/55" – yes!)
As it is now, let's see what 2017 brings! I'm not jumping ship yet.
In the meanwhile, there are many BeoPlay products to purchase
AND, BeoSound 1 / 2. Let down by the BeoVisions, I'm looking foward to the sound systems.
I may not believe anymore, but I do hope.
A bit off-topic - I know!
HDR is very much in its infancy right now.
I wouldn't buy a 'HDR-tv' from anyone at the moment.
There is still veeery much to do, before we can say that HDR is mature for everyday users.
If you doubt this, please spend an hour on this video:
https://twit.tv/shows/home-theater-geeks/episodes/316?autostart=false
If I were you, I would not even think of replacing my BV11 right now - I'd save it for (maybe) a 2017-BV....
....a BS1 or 2 - or some BeoPlay products.
I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway.
BenSA:I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway.
BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model.
I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model.
Easy to say when it doesn't affect you :)
Besides, I don't think anyone is "upset" (there are worse things going on in the world than worrying about a wooden fret), just surprised it's something they changed on the BV11, particularly when they moved back to the BV10-style of magnetised grilles. I was always told by B&O those magnets caused issues.
moxxey: BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. Easy to say when it doesn't affect you :) Besides, I don't think anyone is "upset" (there are worse things going on in the world than worrying about a wooden fret), just surprised it's something they changed on the BV11, particularly when they moved back to the BV10-style of magnetised grilles. I was always told by B&O those magnets caused issues.
Didn't some BV10's use Velcro? There must be a DIY way of attaching a new fret, magnets or no magnets.
BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway.
I totally agree with moxxey. Buyers of the earlier BV 11 paid a significant higher price than owners of the later models.
schatzoy: BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway. I totally agree with moxxey. Buyers of the earlier BV 11 paid a significant higher price than owners of the later models.
I am not sure what bearing that has on why the fret from a new model should fit on an old model? I think its nice if it does but you can't hold B&O accountable for that. Often products are more expensive when they are released compared to down the line, that goes with most manufacturers.
BenSA: schatzoy: BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway. I totally agree with moxxey. Buyers of the earlier BV 11 paid a significant higher price than owners of the later models. I am not sure what bearing that has on why the fret from a new model should fit on an old model? I think its nice if it does but you can't hold B&O accountable for that. Often products are more expensive when they are released compared to down the line, that goes with most manufacturers.
I am not holding B&O accountable, well, maybe I do. To make the fret available for the less expensive BV11 only, seems odd. But sure, one cannot expect to be able to upgrade an old device over a longer period. My BV11 is two and a half years old.
schatzoy: BenSA: schatzoy: BenSA: I have an 10 month old BV11-40 and the fret stays on using magnets. I don't think anyone can be upset that an older model can't fit a fret from a new model. I don't know any manufacturer that makes a new model thinking that they should make the speaker cover fit on an old model. If you want the new look, buy the new TV that's why there's a new model. If it fits on the old one then that is a bonus. That's my thinking anyway. I totally agree with moxxey. Buyers of the earlier BV 11 paid a significant higher price than owners of the later models. I am not sure what bearing that has on why the fret from a new model should fit on an old model? I think its nice if it does but you can't hold B&O accountable for that. Often products are more expensive when they are released compared to down the line, that goes with most manufacturers. I am not holding B&O accountable, well, maybe I do. To make the fret available for the less expensive BV11 only, seems odd. But sure, one cannot expect to be able to upgrade an old device over a longer period. My BV11 is two and a half years old.
I do understand what you are saying and I hope that many BV11 owners are able to change the frets if they like new one more but I do feel a bit bad for B&O lately as they seem to be getting criticism for all sides. I think they need to be cut some slack, only where it is deserved of course.