ARCHIVED FORUM -- March 2012 to February 2022READ ONLY FORUM
This is the second Archived Forum which was active between 1st March 2012 and 23rd February 2022
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9 LEE: It almost felt like it needed a Subwoofer
It almost felt like it needed a Subwoofer
Hi Lee,
Thanks for a very interesting and well considered review. I will await my first look (and listen) of this superb concept with great interest. Looking at the connectivity options quoted by B&O, adding a subwoofer shouldn't be an issue at all if this is needed for some environments.
This idea is exactly the sort of fresh thinking that B&O need right now to take them forward as a brand that can amaze and excite. I just think it is a shame that Samsung hired Yves Behar to design "The Frame" TV for them instead of sending him to B&O, as his project would be a perfect match to Beosound Shape......
Kind regards, Steve
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Ceiling mounted would be quite something too.
Duels: lausvi: Thanks for the review. I must say this looks pretty fascinating. Any ideas if the blank ‘acoustic dampers' will be sold separately? I'd love to have some for just as acoustic panels! Ah. A wall of no sound.
lausvi: Thanks for the review. I must say this looks pretty fascinating. Any ideas if the blank ‘acoustic dampers' will be sold separately? I'd love to have some for just as acoustic panels!
Thanks for the review. I must say this looks pretty fascinating.
Any ideas if the blank ‘acoustic dampers' will be sold separately? I'd love to have some for just as acoustic panels!
Ah. A wall of no sound.
Pocket-lint are impressed. But unless those blank units are expensive or only sold in complete speaker sets, expect lots of wall sculpture with the sound source coming from elsewhere.
Graham
Sandyb:in a good or bad way? or just unsure way?
Is possible to use like REAR speacker in DD setup?For exemple:
If I have beovision Tv with integrated center channel and pair of Beolab Sp. and beolab 2 subwoofer can I use like Rear channel?
Atmos / DTS-X / Auro systems could benefit from those, but it looks like there is no stereo output.
Great review :) Very informative!
Wonder if they will release a starter kit with absorbers only cause it would probably make a lot of people's current systems a lot better. Nice-looking absorbers are hard to find!
November35:Is possible to use like REAR speacker in DD setup? For exemple:If I have beovision Tv with integrated center channel and pair of Beolab Sp. and beolab 2 subwoofer can I use like Rear channel?
hadr:First of all thanks Lee for another excellent review!Sandyb echoes my thoughts exactly
BeoNut since '75
Thanks for the review!
It's definintely an interesting concept. The idea sort of reminds me of Ib Fabiansen's modular systems from the late 50's, and I like that. I'm looking forward to seeing it in real life but it seems to me that, for the price tag, the exterior might be lacking some dimension of cratfsmanship. I mean fabric covered plastic boxes?
Six pack Starter kit would be perfect for my bedroom,ceiling mounted.No subwoofer.
L1NO: Ceiling mounted would be quite something too.
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StKong:The Engineering team in full swing answer that and other questions here: https://vimeo.com/211272895 Your question is answered at 14:00 onwards.
KMA
B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
Only place in my home for the Shape would be the ceiling - would be a nice option, I think!
Otherweise I am with elephant, who wrote:
'But I do like it and I think with the right installer network they could sell truck loads to corporate and hotel reception areas,
perhaps restaurants, and modern apartment blocks.'
And thanks to LEE for the review and for keeping a tight rein on this - the Shapes is surely something that deserves the surprice effect.
P.S. I'd also like to know more about the Core!
MM
There is a tv - and there is a BV
After watching those videos, actually what is more intriguing is the "BeoSound core" more than anything. Looks to be a S8 connection hub that can pair with Essence remote, does DLNA and Airplay. Plus has optical out?? and Digital powerlink??
As you say Lee an interesting concept. As we're the P-45's - P-30's in the '70's, and the Beolab 5000's - Beolab 3000's in the '80's, to the Beolab 4000's in the '90's to the recent Beolab 12's. The last two versions sold best when they could be on a table or a floor stand. I can't wait to see the floor stand for this.
One Achilles heel for wall mounted speakers has always been the wires to them. For this concept it is only the a power cord unless you want to connect powerlink. But a plug in transformer? I guess we'll soon see an updated cable cover design.
I like the concept and can imagine it in my apartment easily.
Just wondering why both Deezer and TuneIn are missing from the list of streaming options? Hope they get added by the launch date.
If the Beosound Core would have some kind of remote + volume control it would be a great addition to a Beamer or such with a nice stereo hookup.
L1NO: If the Beosound Core would have some kind of remote + volume control it would be a great addition to a Beamer or such with a nice stereo hookup.
The could probably sell more boxed up Cores than they will full installations!
Ban boring signatures!
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Wow, i like it. So original.
I think it would be amazing in a dining room, but the main money is in commercial environments where you dont want to have ceiling mounted speakers.
AnalogPlanet: Just wondering why both Deezer and TuneIn are missing from the list of streaming options? Hope they get added by the launch date.
I did have an interesting conversation about this....
The 'TuneIn' and 'Deezer' type companies all clamour to get your attention and offer you the earth to build their apps and interfaces into your products when they launch. They help you, they do whatever you want, they'll jump through hoops and love you.
Then, when they get big, the fact that you were there from the beginning and helped them emerge and become a major payer seems to get forgotten. Then the demands start with things comparable to "If you have anyone else's apps or interfaces in your products, forget it - we're done with you, we don't need you any more..." or "we want a chunk of cash from you if you're going to be privileged enough to have our interface now.."
I'm afraid loyalty and gratitude come a long way behind cash in the modern business world, which I find a real shame.
Lee
KMA:At 3:40, when he is telling the number of Shape speakers needed to have a sound comparable to other BeoLabs, does he say that to match the power of the sound of BeoLab 50, you need 70 BeoLab Shape speakers?Since there was another product introduced at the event, does this inadvertently reveal that it will be BeoLab 50, to be revealed in the autumn? That makes sense: BeoLab 50 could be the successor to BeoLab 5, incorporating technology from the BeoLab 90.
One other thing, which may make dealers feel VERY awkward, which I hope doesn't happen - but.......
Customer walks in and says "I've seen this new BeoSound Shape - and the pictures look lovely! From the pictures I've seen, I can see one in my room actually, and at £3,400/€4,000 it looks quite impressive!!"
So, dealer sits down to take the money whilst the customer clutches the picture below, admiring the splendour of all 24 tiles in a pretty pattern.... then the time comes for the dealer to say "Umm... that only buys you 6 hexagons Sir/Madam...." followed by (through gritted teeth) "so, what you see in the picture will cost you around £11,000/€13,000...."
At what point that becomes an awkward conversation will be down to the dealer and customer
I'd also like to see a description of how to effectively set up the Sound Absorber tiles to correct real, room related, issues. The odd one or two supplied are not going to do anything worthwhile and without a "listening position" it doesn't seem to make sense anyway.
Floor version.
Hi vikinger,
Maybe its just me, but I feel a bit seasick looking at the patterns on that floor (and yes, I AM sober at the moment!)
Kind regards, Steve.
A great review, thanks for that Lee.
I do like the concept, but as you say how will it fit into most peoples rooms, I can not see it fit into any of my room.
I am surprised that it does not come with WISA, surly that would have made sense to cut down on the wires needed to be channelled into the wall.
StKong: We have a confession! I look forward to seeing the Beolab 50.
We have a confession!
I look forward to seeing the Beolab 50.
You lot should work for the CIA
Obviously I cannot say wether this statement is true or not as I'm under an NDA for quite a while to come, but if it came from a B&O Employee you can draw your own conclusions I suppose.
Could be a red herring though...
Thanks Lee, for the very good review. Finally it looks B&O is on the right track...
9 LEE: The 'TuneIn' and 'Deezer' type companies all clamour to get your attention and offer you the earth to build their apps and interfaces into your products when they launch. They help you, they do whatever you want, they'll jump through hoops and love you. Then, when they get big, the fact that you were there from the beginning and helped them emerge and become a major payer seems to get forgotten. Then the demands start with things comparable to "If you have anyone else's apps or interfaces in your products, forget it - we're done with you, we don't need you any more..." or "we want a chunk of cash from you if you're going to be privileged enough to have our interface now.." I'm afraid loyalty and gratitude come a long way behind cash in the modern business world, which I find a real shame.
"Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see, let your ears tell you the truth."
9 LEE:You lot should work for the CIA Obviously I cannot say wether this statement is true or not as I'm under an NDA for quite a while to come, but if it came from a B&O Employee you can draw your own conclusions I suppose. Could be a red herring though... Lee
If something like the Shape had been out when I bought my BeoSound 2 I'd have been seriously tempted to go for that instead. I'm sure a wall mounted Beolab 11 would make up for any bass deficiencies.
OK, now we have the Artex tiles out of the way and in the wild....
What do these shapes now mean?
Mr 10Percent: OK, now we have the Artex tiles out of the way and in the wild.... What do these shapes now mean?
The one on the left is the Shape I'd say...
Sorry B&O i was first :)
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