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Until now I have been using Head light restore kits for perspex covers, will order the Novus starter kit and try that, the head light kits are missing the final clearness so to say.
Collecting Vintage B&O is not a hobby, its a lifestyle.
Hi Søren,
The key here to absolute success is PATIENCE, something you have in abundance!
I found with my badly damaged Beogram 4002 dustcover I would “decide” that I had all the scratches removed at a particular level, when point in fact I hadn’t, and then going to the finer sandpaper it would become apparent, and I’d have to go back to the coarser material…. and that is hard (emotionally) to scratch-up what was beginning to look so good.
If I had it to do again, although I tend to be fairly patient like you, I would go SLOWER, really take my time, so that when I was done the dustcover would be perfect rather than much improved.
The corners are a real pain to get exactly right and don’t lend themselves to the use of a rotary polisher.
Also since I didn’t quit get the dustcovers (I did several: 4000, 4002, & 8000) perfect, I “cheated” using automotive polish and then wax. The polished and shinny waxed surface does much to trick the eye vis-à-vis hiding those pesky tiny scratches.
Jeff
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Hello Søren,
Dementia has set in and in force. I fully expect to be a certified babbling idiot by next week.
I am terrible sorry but I completely misinformed you vis-à-vis polishing plastic items. I really think my brain had a total vapor lock, but what can you do?
Anyway, I tried the Novus line of products and they work perfectly fine, within there limitations, but these products are not going to get rid of a lot of heavy scratches.
Today I have been bearvering away on my new B&O electric sign that arrived yesterday, making remarkable progress….. got rid of 98% on the “damage” to the sign, when the light went on in my head that I had given you the wrong information.
With deep and numerous scratches I recommend the Micro-Mesh Polishing Kit available from Micromark.com for $27.55.
The kit is amazing as the grit goes from 2,400 to (are you ready?) 12,000 grit!
The part I got right in my previous posting is the patience required to get perfect results. It is SO tempting to go to the next level, you really “think” you got it all only to have the next level (or the one after) show that you missed some scratches.
Then back to the coarser paper and it clouds up all your beautiful work, but that is the only way to get it right.
With less serious scratches I am sure that the Novus products would do the trick, but while the shipper of my Beogram 4002 assured me he knew how to pack the turntable, he didn’t and the platter got lose early on and did a sliding act on the dustcover all the way from Alabama to British Columbia. Novus didn’t even dent the horror that was the dustcover.
That said, if your plastic project is a minor one I have another tip: Meguiar’s Plastic Polish…. a really great product for the minor stuff. I use it on my 14 year old car’s headlight covers. It really gives me a “that-a-boy” pat on the back feeling when I spot another car, same model/vintage and see the headlight covers looking opaque and milky-white, while my little car has lights that look new. Trust me my friend, when you have to drive a vehicle this old one does draw pleasures anywhere one can and this is mine.
Anyway, once again I apologize for the miss-information.
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Well you have just given me a bit more reason to check out my roots. I tend to be a very open and friendly guy, so it sounds like I’d fit right in.
You know in hind sight “Failure rate” was an unfair subject to apply to exclusively to Bang & Olufsen products, as all electronics fail eventually.
My Beomaster 2400 began displaying significant distortion and I feared it was failing. False alarm vis-à-vis the 2400 as the distortion came from a switch fault using the remote to switch from tape to phono. Once I found that the problem disappeared when utilizing the switches on the Beomaster itself, the problem, whatever it is, never reoccurred and that was over a month ago.
The Beomaster 4500 also displayed ominous signs of failure and unfortunately succumbed to whatever the source problem is. I believe the 4500 will still power up, but I am not certain and I am NOT going to try to find out. This Beomaster is no longer in use.
Joining the “bright” side of this equation the Beomaster 4400 has stabilized and the awful burning smell has stopped completely. This amp responds badly to being pressed to produce high levels of volume, so no such demands are being made on it. There is a dramatic overabundance of bass and the occasional crack in the treble range, but with light use, I see this amp performing for the foreseeable future.
I had previously expressed my concern about continuing to use these Beomasters and there were comments like, “What good is having something you don’t use?” Well that certainly is the truth so I use and enjoy those I can and retired the one I can’t use.
Thanks guys for your patience and good advice which is being put to use.
And Happy New Year to you all!
Happy New Year Jeff!
I'm sorry to hear that your 4500 is giving you problems.
I also have a 4500 and love it dearly. It and a BG4500CD occupy the bedroom stereo duties. To me the 4500 is like a Swiss Army Knife - It can do almost anything. I couldn't live with out it.
Hi Even,
Thanks for the kind words on my much beloved Beomaster 4500, by FAR my favourite amplifier. We share an affection for these amazing amplifiers.
I had a sort of bad news trifecta with my Beomasters 2400, 4400, and 4500 all presenting distortion issues at about the same time.
I retired the 4400 and 4500 upon good advice from the guys here at BeoWorld but continued using the 2400, which as it turns out has a switch issue, yet unresolved. When I go from tape to phono the 2400 occasionally leaves both on with truly horrific sound. However press either tape or phono again and the problem disappears.
I had purchased a new FM antenna for the 4400 before I retired it and was curious to see how it worked. I was more than pleasantly surprised to find the amp has stabilized and was producing a more or less consistent sound, very bassy, but I rather like that as I have said before, so I went on to check the FM reception which is remarkable.
These successes compelled me to try the 4500 again, but the 4500’s notice was final. It makes truly horrendous sounds that could easily destroy the speakers, so it will remain retired.
Many threads ago I talked glowingly about how well the 4500 stood in as replacement for my main amp, a McIntosh 2255 which was back at the factory being rebuilt. The difference in sound quality was incredible.
Now you can not compare the raw power of a 500 watt amp with the 4500, however the sound quality was deliciously mellow and in a word REAL sounding as compared to the Mac.
Of course the McIntosh has it strong points as well in that a complicated piece, say harpsichord and violin are more accurate with the Linn Isobaric speakers, whose power demand is a bit much for the 4500…. but overall I would rather listen to the 4500 with its exquisitely mellow sound.
It is the shipping costs to Denmark that holds me back from getting the 4500 repaired and I am trying to fix my BeoCenter 9000 and its annoying CD player…. a cost that is within my budget for “toy” repairs.
Wow, that's service and dedication! Love to hear stories like that.
I am not entirely sure what park of my story warranted “service and dedication,” however I am delighted they pleased you.
Although not mentioned in this latest post, I am also happy to add that I finally got my BeoCenter 9000 fully functional with the help of new belts from B&O and a replacement CD player from Leslie.