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Should the Moment have gone with Roon and Tidal?

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seethroughyou
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seethroughyou Posted: Fri, Sep 8 2017 8:30 PM
Just read this:

https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2017/04/06/review-roon-tidal-and-totaldac-part-two-delving-into-roon/

Those that have tried using different streaming solutions seem to have settled on Roon which sorts the metadata and curates beautifully and draws music from the streaming service Tidal. Classical music which is notoriously difficult to present and play properly works well with Roon and Tidal.

Should B&O have used this solution rather than their current buggy and insolvable problems?

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When the Olive One seemed to in trouble (lack of updates) a lot of owners were online begging the manufacturer to open source the operations system so that Roon could be used going forward. But apart from development issues, wouldn't this tie everyone into yet another subscription layer, e.g. Roon  + Tidal?

Graham

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beojeff replied on Fri, Sep 8 2017 10:50 PM

The Moment works just fine with Deezer and TuneIn. The issues have been with how it keeps continually harvesting our DLNA collection and trying to replace cover art of our local music collection.

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jvdl replied on Fri, Sep 8 2017 11:42 PM

TIDAL is the best High Fidelity Music Streaming service (lossless) there is.....  much better then Deezer!

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Maniax replied on Sat, Sep 9 2017 1:30 AM

With the upcoming Deezer Hifi upgrade, which allows streaming in Flac quality, I believe the bigger library of Deezer, cheaper price, and supposedly better sound compared to Tidal, would prove that Deezer is the better choice in the end.

But it has been a long time coming.

 

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jvdl replied on Sun, Sep 10 2017 10:17 AM

I hope so, then it would be great to use Deezer Hifi on the Moment.... looking forward.

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Hiort replied on Sun, Sep 10 2017 7:52 PM
jvdl:

I hope so, then it would be great to use Deezer Hifi on the Moment.... looking forward.

That is coming.

Sounds great Smile

 

 

 

 

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Paul replied on Wed, Sep 13 2017 11:36 AM

Hiort,

Any idea when Deezer HiFi support might be arriving - this year? I have Tidal/Roon elsewhere and it's great but I'd love Deezer HiFi on my Moment even more, now that it's working as originally intended. I am sure of it Big Smile

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Sep 13 2017 11:40 AM
According to the email dealers received, next month
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Roger replied on Thu, Sep 14 2017 11:09 AM

Deezer hifi will be made available through the B&O app (ver.1.1.5) as well, so you can stream lossless to your Essence, BeoSound 2 as well.

Off topic, but a nice touch with ver 1.1.5 of the Bang & Olufsen App is that it will support older products as well, more specifically Beoplay A8, Playmaker, Beoplay A9 1.gen and BeoLit 12.

So you do not need the Moment to get lossless Deezer playback.

Roger

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MrAndersen replied on Thu, Sep 14 2017 12:07 PM

Hi Roger

Just to clearify. Deezer Hifi will be in 1.1.6 which is also aimed for September. 

The support for A8, Playmaker, BeoPlay A9 MKI and BeoLit 12 is setup only. Those products cannot do more than they could before, that would require a software update of the products themselves and no further development is being done on those platforms.

 

Best regards

Thomas Andersen, Bang & Olufsen

 

Roger
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Roger replied on Thu, Sep 14 2017 1:51 PM

Thanks, Thomas - I do believe that access to better sound resolution is a key trigger for products such as the BeoLab 50, where customers may not go to the same extremes as BeoLab 90 owners when it comes to high quality sources (eg Linn turntable at £18k).  

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Roger replied on Fri, Sep 15 2017 7:31 AM

Regarding the update to allow for Deezer hifi - the following products will support playback:

BeoSound Moment, BeoSound 1, BeoSound 2, BeoSound 35, BeoSound Essence 2. gen., BeoSound Core, Beoplay M5, Beoplay A6, Beoplay A9 2. gen. and BeoVision Eclipse.

The subscription is €19.99/month, so it is nice that you can benefit from flac in other products and not just the Moment.

Roger

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Audio replied on Thu, May 21 2020 12:26 PM

I do not know what threat to use.
Roon labs support by B&O would be really great in my eyes.
A) On one hand I do not know, if it makes sense for B&O. Due to the possibility that license fees have to be paid to Roon Labs and how complicated (= development costs) it is to integrate RAAT (= Streaming protocol of Roon) besides Airplay and Chromecast into the B&O devices.
B) On the other hand brands like Bowers&Wilkins or BlueSound are offering Roon additionally to Airplay.
Would be interesting how B&O thinks about it ?!?

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